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Linus tries to build a PC to beat Xbox Series X...
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Saw this yesterday. If this shows anything its how greatly the console is designed
Although I don't like how it looks but to kudos to MS for stuffing all that stuff in this design
Although I don't like how it looks but to kudos to MS for stuffing all that stuff in this design
Well while price of the consoles is 500$ for the end customer both companies are taking losses because real price is much higher. Also add to that bulk purchases of various components and you will never get good enough comparison. But it's entertaining looking at people who try it :D
Does seem like a bit of a bloodbath to be honest.
Edit: to add, always annoying to me these videos cause the UK price would be way higher.
Edit: to add, always annoying to me these videos cause the UK price would be way higher.
i haven't paid much attention to any of this, but has the "pc master race" argument ever been that you can blow away consoles at launch with a pc that costs exactly as much? i've never heard that before. i only remember hearing that you can make up the difference with cheaper games and no cost for online multiplayer.
Ok yeah, fair enough, lol.
The clickbaity nature of LTT's video titles kinda pisses me off.
Excuse me Linus, this is not how ebay works:
You just cannot use a bidding price, from Russia, and the shipping costs of +$40, as a justification for valuing your "warehouse" CPU as a $130 one.
You just cannot use a bidding price, from Russia, and the shipping costs of +$40, as a justification for valuing your "warehouse" CPU as a $130 one.
Anything goes in videos like these to bring the cost down to console equivalent.
It's just comparing 3 games, so it's a limited data set for drawing a real conclusion here, and the Xbox Series X will likely "age better" as games on it will always make the best use of the system (ideally, anyway).
Still, really impressive performance from their "I bought everything used from eBay" PC there.
Still, really impressive performance from their "I bought everything used from eBay" PC there.
Maybe they are taking losses but I think they either are not at all or it is significantly reduced from more exotic eras like PS360.
Watching Linus video now. Hopefully the takeaway is better than the recent Gamers Nexus video comparing PS5 to a 1060. The actual video wasn't that bad but the main takeaway points were. I mean according to DF PS5 is around a 2060 Super with RT and a tier or two above without RT. GN is usually great so that was disappointing.
I expected more of a performance gap in favour of the Xbox. Impressive that he got a comparable PC spec-wise for that amount, that took me by surprise. But the conclusion wraps things up pretty soundly. No warranty, cut corners, cheap tatt, small storage, etc. Great video that also shows the value of the Series X.
What do you mean anything goes?
This is not the price of the item. In that case, this is the price of XSX:
Not sure about any arguments but cost of game wise there's nothing beating having Gamepass Ultimate. So the cost of online and game price thing is negated.
I always though the argument for PC gaming was more about options and being in control.
well, yes, unless the games you want to play aren't on gamepass.
Not really. But youtubers have always been obsessed with these, because it drives clicks.
100% honestly you're better off with consoles at that price right now (well, if consoles were available, at least PS5 still hasn't fulfilled even first day preorders). That PC surely won't be able to run every game next gen.
PC is definitely best at enthusiastic level, at above console prices. (at least until we are sometime into next gen)
(Or "toaster" level PC to play esports games, at prices below consoles)
Cheesy title aside, what exactly did you think the video might be? Obviously you can build a better PC than the Series X if you have no budget, that goes without saying. I thought the title suggested "for a similar price", because otherwise there wouldn't really be a point to the video.
Yea, its a thing.
We had a thread a few weeks ago about some really disingenuous Gamers Nexus video where they built a $500 PC that could bench 3 specific games better than if they were running on PS5 under backwards compatibility mode, just to prove....... something?
I've seen other examples here and there, but thats the one that most springs to mind.
PC Master Race people can be just as prone to dumbassery as any other type of fanboy. *shrug*
No I haven't either. The PC master race argument was always that you get the superior version of almost all games so long as you spend enough on your system, basically. It was never centered around cost. It never even included cost.
Such a messy build and again only uses 3 games to validate his impression of this so-called comparison. Just let it be :p.
Control for example will be 60fps (performance mode) and 30 fps (quality - RT) mode and I would be interested in how his computer would hold up. It differs from game, engine and release date of how much devs can squeeze out of these consoles and whether they will be bottlenecked (which I presume this gen is not going to be a big problem due to the nice balance of GPU and CPU + SSD).
For new PC owners, such videos are not even remotely interesting ( A quad-core CPU?!?), but for existing, it may be.
Control for example will be 60fps (performance mode) and 30 fps (quality - RT) mode and I would be interested in how his computer would hold up. It differs from game, engine and release date of how much devs can squeeze out of these consoles and whether they will be bottlenecked (which I presume this gen is not going to be a big problem due to the nice balance of GPU and CPU + SSD).
For new PC owners, such videos are not even remotely interesting ( A quad-core CPU?!?), but for existing, it may be.
Agreed
The amount of compromises they made as well as missing features to make it a direct comparison shows how much value both the PS5 and Xbox have for the price.
Excuse me Linus, this is not how ebay works:
You just cannot use a bidding price, from Russia, and the shipping costs of +$40, as a justification for valuing your "warehouse" CPU as a $130 one.
Yeah, that part made me go, wtf?
Yah, this sucks, this project is failed from the startExcuse me Linus, this is not how ebay works:
You just cannot use a bidding price, from Russia, and the shipping costs of +$40, as a justification for valuing your "warehouse" CPU as a $130 one.
But do you know what that doesn't suck?
OUR SAGEWAY FOR THIS VIDEO...
I'm a huge fan of the PC and do pretty much all my gaming on it, but if you've only got $500 to spend on a gaming platform and you don't already have a PC you can build on, you should get a console every time. The walled garden of console gaming might suck in some ways, but it lets you get the hardware at below cost price, which is something PCs can never compete with.
Fun video, I mean seeing a Haswell era CPU holds up in gaming is enough for my interest
Still, you buy a gaming console to play games, PCs at the same price is never going to match that. But that same PC can also be used to make games for the consoles sooooooooooo it's still the master race
Still, you buy a gaming console to play games, PCs at the same price is never going to match that. But that same PC can also be used to make games for the consoles sooooooooooo it's still the master race
Excuse me Linus, this is not how ebay works:
You just cannot use a bidding price, from Russia, and the shipping costs of +$40, as a justification for valuing your "warehouse" CPU as a $130 one.
Oh, if that's what he's doing here then you just saved me from wasting my time, thanks. I mean, it would be interesting to see how close someone could get, but at the very least he should use sold listings. Current bid is pointless.
No need to get up in arms about videos from ltt like this, they're just meant to be dumb fun experiments. It's not like linus is coming out at the end actually saying it's better than a series x, or more practical.
If anything loses are bigger. Especially now during pandemic when big companies are paying a lot more to secure enough components and that drives prices up for others. And even without that both consoles contain some expensive parts.
His conclusion doesn't even really cover how bad he cheated though, he'd have got nowhere near it.
Finished watching, pretty good take from them especially how they admitted to "cheating" in some ways with PC build.
PC has its own many advantages, besides getting views no need to pretend a dollar to dollar PC will match a console at launch. Sony and MS have plenty of ways to profit whereas PC components seems to have slim margins for everyone.
PC has its own many advantages, besides getting views no need to pretend a dollar to dollar PC will match a console at launch. Sony and MS have plenty of ways to profit whereas PC components seems to have slim margins for everyone.
With the way GPUs are priced right now, I don't think you'll be able to build anything at $500 that beats the new consoles.
I would really like to see how it performs against a $900 msrp pc. I think that is where you are going to see it land roughly. Your not going to see a same price pc do well against a normal new console (non -hybrid) at launch. It's a silly comparison it's been this way for at least 20-25 years.
He had to make a hell of a lot of compromises and it still costs more.
I guess I can see the value in this done over several points in time across the console's life cycle but as a single video, nah
I guess I can see the value in this done over several points in time across the console's life cycle but as a single video, nah
Yeah that computer would be 1000 AUD imo our gpu market is cooked
