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mael

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Nov 3, 2017
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Now imagine that is the only job you can have that will pay you a living wage without destroying your entire life built. I'm sure you'd still go and smack your manager up in a big way while becoming homeless. Good on you if so, I'm not that tough. Most i'd do is privately get them reported to the authorities and hope for a good result.

LRG is not, EA, they are basically a couple of dudes trying to scrape by on a tiny low profit business.
True, now they're worse.
 

Chrome Hyena

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Oct 30, 2017
8,779
Not supporting THQ is one thing. But if you also plan to not support anyone who associates with THQ then you may as well quit gaming.

After all, LRG is not keeping THQ in business, its Nintendo, Sony, MS Steam, Epic game store and whoever sells their games. That is who keeps them going. Not a tiny publisher.
 

Burrman

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
7,633
Not supporting THQ is one thing. But if you also plan to not support anyone who associates with THQ then you may as well quit gaming.

After all, LRG is not keeping THQ in business, its Nintendo, Sony, MS Steam, Epic game store and whoever sells their games. That is who keeps them going. Not a tiny publisher.
Sad but true.
 

Jahranimo

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,071
Not supporting THQ is one thing. But if you also plan to not support anyone who associates with THQ then you may as well quit gaming.

After all, LRG is not keeping THQ in business, its Nintendo, Sony, MS Steam, Epic game store and whoever sells their games. That is who keeps them going. Not a tiny publisher.
Yeah, it makes all of this so disappointing.
 

Deleted member 6215

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Oct 25, 2017
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Not supporting THQ is one thing. But if you also plan to not support anyone who associates with THQ then you may as well quit gaming.

After all, LRG is not keeping THQ in business, its Nintendo, Sony, MS Steam, Epic game store and whoever sells their games. That is who keeps them going. Not a tiny publisher.

Again, this isn't about all those other massive companies. LRG's business model, by definition and intention, is very limited. Out of anyone they should be able to avoid association with companies like THQN - if they choose to. And given their small, niche customer base, many of whom are on this site, I would think this would be important to them.
 

Jom

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Oct 25, 2017
3,490
I'm a huge fan of some of the games they have including the red faction series, darksiders, and desperados. It sucks for the people who work there and have no choice because it's not always easy to just leave your job and go find a new one solely because your upper management is complacent with disgusting behaviour. Under normal circumstances where a dev does something stupid I could sometimes still begrudgingly buy a game because the sum of everything still trumps the behaviour of the company(crunch, microtransanctions, etc), but this is a case where it goes far beyond that and I'm not ok with supporting a company that isn't willing to take action on the individuals who did that stupid AMA.
I'm not saying the employees are required to do anything because your family's gotta eat.

At the same time it's not really accurate to say that they have no choice. Look at Riot Games and how over a hundred employees walked out to protest the company's policy of forced arbitration. It's not so much that they don't have a choice, but that in the calculus of possibly losing your job versus protesting the actions of the company's executives, the employees felt that it wasn't quite worth it.
 

Just_a_Mouse

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Oct 27, 2017
2,030
To be clear, we are overjoyed to bring Red Faction to physical format. Agreed that it was bad wording for the tweet, and for that we apologize. It should've been clearer.

We are not overjoyed with THQN's AMA on 8chan, to say the least, and in no way endorse it.

This is not an acceptable apology, I will not be supporting any products associated with THQN.
 

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It's not just LRG that has a partnership with THQ, Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo and Valve all do too and have their games on their stores.
 

jrDev

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Mar 2, 2018
1,528
This is not a post to hand wave the trouble that THQN got themselves in, but to say you are boycotting a small company like LRG; I hope you don't own any console/platform that THQN publishes their games on...
 

Just_a_Mouse

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Oct 27, 2017
2,030
So what should people in Europe buy since a lot of games are being published by THQN?

Other games? I don't understand this logic, there is a glut of stuff to play out there that isn't associated with publishers that support racist hate-mongers and pedophiles. At the end of the day you need to vote with your wallet, and personally I just can't stand to see people handwave this shit away because of "the games". It's beyond infuriating.
 

Hercule

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Jun 20, 2018
5,555
Other games? I don't understand this logic, there is a glut of stuff to play out there that isn't associated with publishers that support racist hate-mongers and pedophiles. At the end of the day you need to vote with your wallet, and personally I just can't stand to see people handwave this shit away because of "the games". It's beyond infuriating.
Almost every game in Europe is being published by THQ
 

Hercule

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Jun 20, 2018
5,555
No they aren't. That's just nonsense.

Yeah, every game might be a bit to much but these companies are handling distribution trough THQ in Europe:
- Atlus
- Bethesda
- Capcom
- SEGA
- Microsoft
- Paradox
- Koei Tecmo
- Focus Home Interactive
- Codemasters
- NIS America
- Spike Chunsoft
- S- Atlus
- Bethesda
- Capcom
- SEGA
- Microsoft
- Paradox
- Koei Tecmo
- Focus Home Interactive
- Codemasters
- NIS America
- Spike Chunsoft
- Square Enix

That are a lot of companies
 

andymoogle

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Oct 27, 2017
2,357
Yeah, every game might be a bit to much but these companies are handling distribution trough THQ in Europe:
- Atlus
- Bethesda
- Capcom
- SEGA
- Microsoft
- Paradox
- Koei Tecmo
- Focus Home Interactive
- Codemasters
- NIS America
- Spike Chunsoft
- S- Atlus
- Bethesda
- Capcom
- SEGA
- Microsoft
- Paradox
- Koei Tecmo
- Focus Home Interactive
- Codemasters
- NIS America
- Spike Chunsoft
- Square Enix

That are a lot of companies
Buy them digitally and THQ gets nothing. Or import them if you absolutely must have physical.
 

Yukari

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Mar 28, 2018
11,762
Thailand
Honesty. Besides Resetera I don't see anyone going boycott/not support them.
I mean how it's gonna work if it just limited only one website?
 

TheIdiot

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Oct 27, 2017
2,729
Small companies rarely have the luxury to be selective with their clients and business partners. To put them on the moral chopping block for this, and in such an aggressive way, expressing disgust, honestly just comes off as sheltered from the real world.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Buy them digitally and THQ gets nothing. Or import them if you absolutely must have physical.

Lolwut? You're still downloading the European versions of the games which THQN would be publishing both digitally and physically in that region. Buying them off of a console/PC storefront doesn't mean the publisher gets no money whatsoever, that'd mean no incentive for them to release digital versions.
 

Trisc

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Oct 27, 2017
6,493
Not supporting THQ is one thing. But if you also plan to not support anyone who associates with THQ then you may as well quit gaming.

After all, LRG is not keeping THQ in business, its Nintendo, Sony, MS Steam, Epic game store and whoever sells their games. That is who keeps them going. Not a tiny publisher.
There is truly no ethical consumption under capitalism.
 

Kewlmyc

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Oct 25, 2017
26,799
What does Resetera want from LimitedRun games, a very small company? To break off a most likely contracted deal and lose a bunch of money because their partner fucked up majorly in a shit PR stunt? Life isn't as black and white as that. I'm not going to call them monsters because they don't want to take a major money hit due to something that was completely out of their control.

Hell, they even apologized for people mistaking the intention of their tweet, which I'm legit surprised they did, as it was unnecessary.
 

andymoogle

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Oct 27, 2017
2,357
Lolwut? You're still downloading the European versions of the games which THQN would be publishing both digitally and physically in that region. Buying them off of a console/PC storefront doesn't mean the publisher gets no money whatsoever, that'd mean no incentive for them to release digital versions.
They aren't publishing the digital versions on Steam. I would assume it's the same on consoles. From what I can gather they only handle the physical publishing and nothing else. This is obviously not for their own games.

In addition to the Games business, Koch Media has two other business units; Partner Publishing and Film. Partner Publishing is a European market leader within publishing and distribution of physical video games and with an extensive partner network of more than 50 partners. The segment has experienced growth in recent years.

EDIT: Never mind. That isn't the case on PS4.
 
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Deleted member 2652

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Oct 25, 2017
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Not supporting THQ is one thing. But if you also plan to not support anyone who associates with THQ then you may as well quit gaming.

After all, LRG is not keeping THQ in business, its Nintendo, Sony, MS Steam, Epic game store and whoever sells their games. That is who keeps them going. Not a tiny publisher.
Yes, but decision making isn't binary (i'd fucking hope) and shit like this has weight (i'd fucking hope)
 

Kareha

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Jun 15, 2018
1,460
United Kingdom
What does Resetera want from LimitedRun games, a very small company? To break off a most likely contracted deal and lose a bunch of money because their partner fucked up majorly in a shit PR stunt? Life isn't as black and white as that. I'm not going to call them monsters because they don't want to take a major money hit due to something that was completely out of their control.

Hell, they even apologized for people mistaking the intention of their tweet, which I'm legit surprised they did, as it was unnecessary.

So your happy that a company is effectively supporting child pornography and blatent racism?
 

Fr1zzank

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Nov 20, 2017
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User Banned (1 Week): Dismissive drive-by in a sensitive thread.
Ayyyyyyyy, I just got my platinum in Red Faction not too long ago, so a physical disc on my shelf would be swell! But... LRG's shipping to Canada is ruff.
 

RPGamer

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
1,435
They aren't publishing the digital versions on Steam. I would assume it's the same on consoles. From what I can gather they only handle the physical publishing and nothing else. This is obviously not for their own games.


even if not, Square Enix, Atlus, Sega etc. are still working together without hesitation with THQ Nordic and their companies which would be endorsement, or not?
 

Kareha

Banned
Jun 15, 2018
1,460
United Kingdom
Not supporting THQ is one thing. But if you also plan to not support anyone who associates with THQ then you may as well quit gaming.

After all, LRG is not keeping THQ in business, its Nintendo, Sony, MS Steam, Epic game store and whoever sells their games. That is who keeps them going. Not a tiny publisher.

They knew what they were doing and who they were making their bed with so fuck them and their CP gloryfying friends.
 
Oct 30, 2017
279
I am so happy that my interest in most mainstream releases have tanked. With all of these companies either becoming or embracing utter trash, I don't think I have had a single game that disappointed me to ignore. Maybe Outward. That's really it.
 

Atolm

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Oct 25, 2017
5,846
Buy them digitally and THQ gets nothing. Or import them if you absolutely must have physical.

You don't seem to understand how the verification process goes in EU and how unless you're a supergiant spread globally you're going to need a partner even for digital publishing. The partner is the one who handles all rejections and problems given by Sony or MS QA departments. Those problems can be entirely different from those faced in North America. Remember the problem with nazi imagery in Germany and Austria?
 

entremet

You wouldn't toast a NES cartridge
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Oct 26, 2017
60,664
They knew what they were doing and who they were making their bed with so fuck them and their CP gloryfying friends.
They're not friends. They're business partners. Should Sony and MS break off their business relationship with THQN?

By all means, boycott THQN. But to punish LRG, a small boutique studio, for publishing a game that they care about in a world where digital is taking over, is not fair.

Criticize them for their decision is fair. But treating them like anathema is disproportionate.
 

entremet

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Oct 26, 2017
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I'm sorry that my morals regarding child exploitation are above those of company profits, get fucking real.
So anyone that associates with a business entity is now endorsing what some cretins who work at said entity did? So suppliers, employees, partners, and so on?

We're just going unilaterally make that call?

Again, fine with boycotting THQN. Fine with criticizing LRG for this instance, but some of this for or against stuff is really extreme. At least be ideologically consistent then and forgo all business partners of THQN.

What's bizarre is many in this community want more little guys like LRG to succeed. They are a boutique shop. Yet they get disproportionate heat. Again, I have no issues with people not buying any THQN associated game. My issue is the harshness reserved for a small player here.
 

andymoogle

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Oct 27, 2017
2,357
even if not, Square Enix, Atlus, Sega etc. are still working together without hesitation with THQ Nordic and their companies which would be endorsement, or not?
No large company is going to drop THQ over something that most consumers aren't even aware of. There is way too much money involved.
 

andymoogle

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Oct 27, 2017
2,357
You don't seem to understand how the verification process goes in EU and how unless you're a supergiant spread globally you're going to need a partner even for digital publishing. The partner is the one who handles all rejections and problems given by Sony or MS QA departments. Those problems can be entirely different from those faced in North America. Remember the problem with nazi imagery in Germany and Austria?
Yes, I misunderstood the situation due to me being mainly a PC gamer.
 

Kareha

Banned
Jun 15, 2018
1,460
United Kingdom
So anyone that associates with a business entity is now endorsing what some cretins of said entity did? So suppliers, employees, partners, and so on?

They knew who they were going to do business with and still went into it, other companies who do the same are up there for me. When it comes to something like child pornography don't fucking get involved, unless you really don't have any morals.
 

vodalus

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Oct 27, 2017
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CT
So anyone that associates with a business entity is now endorsing what some cretins who work at said entity did? So suppliers, employees, partners, and so on?

If you restate what you just said as an assertion, you'll realize how ridiculous it sounds. The idea that doing business with someone doesn't help achieve their goals makes zero sense. We're all responsible for our actions, so is LRG.
 
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