All of THQ? every single person? every studio? every person contracted to work with them? everyone that distributes their games?
Who knew it was so simple and binary.
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Limited Run Games "overjoyed" to partner with THQ Nordic
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All of THQ? every single person? every studio? every person contracted to work with them? everyone that distributes their games?
Who knew it was so simple and binary.
That's not even 6 degrees of separation, it's like one. They all deal directly with THQN.
Their sales are up, aren't they? They are likely assuming this thing has blown over, or is more or less going to soon.
Well I'm talking other devs that work with those companies spanning outwards.
We have to burn it to the ground and start fresh.
For real, be mad at thqn and not everybody that works with them. If we do that literally everything is a battleground.
Its not really. All of those companies have direct business relationships with THQN. They don't have to allow them to sell games on their storefront, they don't have to allow them to make licensed PS or Xbox or Switch games, yet they do. they don't have to advertise THQN games on their storefronts when they release or go on sale, yet they do.
Probably hard to learn since many on here think some of these corporations are their friends.
I'm fine with people deciding boycott THQN products including this one.
But this blanket guilty by association reasoning to something as complex and multivariate as game development and marketing seems a rather simple way of looking things.
except y'all are the kid waiting for any thqn news to feel morally correct while still supporting capitalism. it's laughable
This is the biggest issue. I do agree that all of these other gaming companies should be put under the same microscope as Limited Run Games. It's just these companies didn't post a tweet like that.
It's interesting you mention kids in this context...
MS, Sony and Nintendo all collect fees for their releases too.
They're tweeting it because they're announcing it. They're a small shop and have limited marketing budgets and channels compared to the big publishers. They're not Take Two or EA.
Publishers release PR notices all the time. This is the same.
The end of that kind of nihilism where everything is equally immoral under capitalism is that evergreen wint tweet tbh.
"Don't do anything because you're compromised anyway" is generally pretty useless, but you do you.
The Death Star's contractors were forced to work under threat of death and intentionally left a big hole in it to get blown up
What the fuck does capitalism have to do with posting on a pedophile site?
Fuck off with that weak shit.
Fuck off with that weak shit.
Y'all can try to contact MS, Sony, Valve, etc and see how quickly they respond. When this all went down a lot of people tried to raise awareness at all levels. This thread isn't about those companies.
Meanwhile, we have LRG reading and responding to this thread. It's important that they know that this association with THQN is not well-received.
Just because we can't make our voices heard to everyone, doesn't mean people should shut up and give up. Influence what you can and skip the BS defeatism.
Meanwhile, we have LRG reading and responding to this thread. It's important that they know that this association with THQN is not well-received.
Just because we can't make our voices heard to everyone, doesn't mean people should shut up and give up. Influence what you can and skip the BS defeatism.
i get that it's confusing optics when a corporation makes deals and takes action that harms groups like minorities/LGBTQ+ etc but i don't jive with the posting of group photos from companies at Pride events. those are often people that have no part in the decision making process within their companies and the fact they're able to even be out and do those things at all should be celebrated.
case in point: i used to work for ExxonMobil at the Spring TX campus and went to a few of their Pride Group events, as well as a TED talk-ish presentation on being a straight ally. it was great, but seeing this large group of people work for a company that was actively contributing to politicians and measures that negatively affected them was baffling. then i listened to them talk about their roles in the company and came to realize that they're actively choosing to stay put because the number of LGBTQ+ members within the corporation was growing every year- be it people being hired into the company or existing employees that were coming out or joining. eventually the tides will turn and they will be such a large part of the company that either A. the decision makers will HAVE to change their ways, or B. they themselves will be in the decision making roles and can be more hands-on.
when they go out and participate in Pride events or show their support they aren't going "hey our company isn't *THAT* bad lol" they're literally saying "hey we exist in this company too, and we're not going to remain silent or hidden." so if you have to address big companies feigning support of LGBTQ+ from a corporat position, stick to calling out their tweets or marketing campaigns, and leave the individuals working at those companies that are part of those groups alone, please. it's pretty gross.
case in point: i used to work for ExxonMobil at the Spring TX campus and went to a few of their Pride Group events, as well as a TED talk-ish presentation on being a straight ally. it was great, but seeing this large group of people work for a company that was actively contributing to politicians and measures that negatively affected them was baffling. then i listened to them talk about their roles in the company and came to realize that they're actively choosing to stay put because the number of LGBTQ+ members within the corporation was growing every year- be it people being hired into the company or existing employees that were coming out or joining. eventually the tides will turn and they will be such a large part of the company that either A. the decision makers will HAVE to change their ways, or B. they themselves will be in the decision making roles and can be more hands-on.
when they go out and participate in Pride events or show their support they aren't going "hey our company isn't *THAT* bad lol" they're literally saying "hey we exist in this company too, and we're not going to remain silent or hidden." so if you have to address big companies feigning support of LGBTQ+ from a corporat position, stick to calling out their tweets or marketing campaigns, and leave the individuals working at those companies that are part of those groups alone, please. it's pretty gross.
People already slipping on THQN. That Darksiders Genesis thread is non-stop praise and hype for release.
Is it possible to delete this post like I'd like to delete 8chan?
I think the game threads have largely been removed from this controversy.
Oh my god
I hadn't seen this before, thank you for highlighting it, OP. Brings the whole thing into focus.
Yeah I'm beyond pissed that anyone would support THQN after the shit they pulled but knowing how long these deals take to get finalized it's almost 99% likely they got the rights to this game BEFORE the shitshow went down and by that point what are you going to do after the fact ? Pull your funding and burn that money when you're close to preparing a release? It's one thing if it's an indie game that's problematic (they've done that before if trophies were bugged or something, pulling the game from release IIRC and I think they might not go forward with YIIK), but if it's a gigantic game like this that took so much to license? Yeah, it's kinda hard to backtrack without hurting yourself financially. Same with Nickelodeon keeping the agreement for Spongebox. (though Nick certainly has the money to pull out safely and should have made a stand, IMO)
Thinking LRG as a whole is evil for publishing this is pretty silly since all stores (unfortunately) still stock THQN games like anything else, but I honestly think that this should at the very least be their ONLY title published from them unless there's already more signed (Though I hope they back out on this since IIRC they can if a game doesn't do well so there's still some hope). Do nothing else until THQ properly gets their shit together which I don't think is likely since they keep sweeping this issue under the rug and refuse to act as if they did anything wrong. :(
I do know the LRG folks well though by being a long time buyer and member of their discord and believe me, when the AMA took place that day, nobody in the in the LRG discord (staff and fans like myself) liked it at all. We were all really fucking mad about the shit they pulled, which is why I'm confident that it was an early signing since they would have certainly avoided them if they met after the AMA.
Still, speak with your wallets. I know I'm not buying Red Faction or any other THQN game, though they LRG has other games from other devs who DO deserve the support over those awful people at THQN. I wouldn't say stopping buying from them altogether is the thing to do, but rather focus more on the devs they work with that aren't shitty creep supporters. If the game hardly sells out or move do much at all then that would also send the message that nobody wants to support an awful company.
This is really sad to see. And holy hell, I just read that Era user's story for the first time. I have no words.
THQ upgrading to full on villain status is in ERA threads continues to be a wild ride
I'm a huge fan of some of the games they have including the red faction series, darksiders, and desperados. It sucks for the people who work there and have no choice because it's not always easy to just leave your job and go find a new one solely because your upper management is complacent with disgusting behaviour. Under normal circumstances where a dev does something stupid I could sometimes still begrudgingly buy a game because the sum of everything still trumps the behaviour of the company(crunch, microtransanctions, etc), but this is a case where it goes far beyond that and I'm not ok with supporting a company that isn't willing to take action on the individuals who did that stupid AMA.
Thank you for this clarification.
The reason of this animosity towards THQN comes from the fact that the company you choose to affiliate with offered a bland apology, at best, while the persons involved in the notorious AMA got away unpunished.
How would you feel having to cooperate with these people, knowing how idiotically inconsiderate they have been, not only making this AMA but also tuning to the mood of the 8chan community.
When the notorious AMA begun they (an Austrian based company) were greeted with a hail Hitler post and along through the procces they were making fun about little girls with big breasts while mr. Pollice, an executive and THQN stockholder, joyfully replied to a poster that wanted for the "Fagotry to be ceased ".
How on earth you will be in the same room with these people?
Not gonna defend LRG but I can see why they are "branching out".
The vita games are coming to an end and they must find other avenues. Sure THQ is not the greatest dev to team up with but I doubt they had lots of options. Who knows as they are working with lucasarts or whatever. Guess Disney is involved?
I'm not really a PS2 classics (so so ps4 ports) fan so I'm not really gonna be buying those releases. I'm not gonna be a hypocrite after buying a shit ton of games from them, mainly for vita.
I agree that this has bad optics though and they should have seen this coming.
Edit: Before anyone thinks I'm sugar coating shit. Please dont. I'm not defending thq, never did or have.
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"Not the greatest dev" sure is a strange way of downplaying advocating CP among everything else they did. Yikes.
Thanks for the effort of making this. The moral circle jerks in THQN threads are the worst thing ever. "oh man they are cancelled!!!" *proceeds to buy games from Amazon*Because being on the pro LGBT train doesn't really mean anything, and I'm sure if you asked every employee of LRG, they'd probably enthusastically be very supportive of LGBT rights and representation.
Google, Microsoft, and Amazon are pro LGBT, and they're still paying criminally low taxes using every loophole available. But hey, at least they like the gays!
Or how about this picture:
I'm sure every one of those folks is a decent human being that loves their kids, considers their words, and pets stray dogs. Nestle also tries to rape indigenous lands of water sources, fucked over new mothers in developing nations, etc. But hey, at least they love the gays!
I used to bring this point up in threads, and I just got shouted down at best, and accused of being a member of these idiotic 8chan-style groups at worst, so I just stopped making the point, but hey, fuck it- if you use a car, any form of electronic device including video game consoles and phones, or have ever bought produce sourced from South America (in the US, you likely have), you're supporting evil. It's part of living in a society. Accusing LRG of supporting pedophilia because they're publishing a twenty year old game for a much larger publisher and probably going to experience a great deal of growth and success as a result just feels like a reason to dunk on a small business doing what they can to be successful at something they're passionate about.
Also I'm not sure what you mean when you say "Other companies are on the Pro LGBT train so why are game companies so backwards?"
What metric are you using here? The few B-tier and indie publishers that have these disastrous PR stunts? How about all the major publishers and platform holders and developers turning their avatars into pride-themed rainbows and wearing pins at E3, the industry's biggest show? Game companies aren't backwards. Stop it with this.
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Your false equivalencies are getting worse.
Have you even bothered to read the fucking thread? My god some of you are so fucking irritating.
Mmmh gonna say that's not a good look LRG. Probably should do more research on your business partners. Unless your just tacitly admitting that the money is so good that your willing to overlook all the gross shit THQ is complicit with.
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Maybe if you put half as much effort into reading the thread as you did drive-by posting, you might actually understand why this is a serious issue.
Not supporting THQN since the whole fiasco and believe me that Switch port of Darksiders was really tempting, but my support for LRG won't budge because of this.
Their temporary assiciation is unfortunate and I definitely will not buy Red Faction, but at least the LRG account here answered in this very thread that they are against the whole 8chan thing, which by itself is surprisingly better than the overall answer to this from THQN themselves during the events.
Their temporary assiciation is unfortunate and I definitely will not buy Red Faction, but at least the LRG account here answered in this very thread that they are against the whole 8chan thing, which by itself is surprisingly better than the overall answer to this from THQN themselves during the events.
Because being on the pro LGBT train doesn't really mean anything, and I'm sure if you asked every employee of LRG, they'd probably enthusastically be very supportive of LGBT rights and representation.
Google, Microsoft, and Amazon are pro LGBT, and they're still paying criminally low taxes using every loophole available. But hey, at least they like the gays!
Or how about this picture:
I'm sure every one of those folks is a decent human being that loves their kids, considers their words, and pets stray dogs. Nestle also tries to rape indigenous lands of water sources, fucked over new mothers in developing nations, etc. But hey, at least they love the gays!
I used to bring this point up in threads, and I just got shouted down at best, and accused of being a member of these idiotic 8chan-style groups at worst, so I just stopped making the point, but hey, fuck it- if you use a car, any form of electronic device including video game consoles and phones, or have ever bought produce sourced from South America (in the US, you likely have), you're supporting evil. It's part of living in a society. Accusing LRG of supporting pedophilia because they're publishing a twenty year old game for a much larger publisher and probably going to experience a great deal of growth and success as a result just feels like a reason to dunk on a small business doing what they can to be successful at something they're passionate about.
Also I'm not sure what you mean when you say "Other companies are on the Pro LGBT train so why are game companies so backwards?"
What metric are you using here? The few B-tier and indie publishers that have these disastrous PR stunts? How about all the major publishers and platform holders and developers turning their avatars into pride-themed rainbows and wearing pins at E3, the industry's biggest show? Game companies aren't backwards. Stop it with this.
This is an absolutely fantastic post, you summed up my feelings better than I could have myself.
Please read the OP, concerns about association with nazis and child pornographers are more serious than any video game.
I'm not going to claim to be ethically superior by not buying stuff from companies who advertise on forums for Nazis and child pornographers.
Instead I'm going to claim to be ethically superior by never having ethical considerations while buying anything, because I guess that doing absolutely fucking nothing is somehow better than small efforts for some inexplicable moon logic reason
Instead I'm going to claim to be ethically superior by never having ethical considerations while buying anything, because I guess that doing absolutely fucking nothing is somehow better than small efforts for some inexplicable moon logic reason
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