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Genryu

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I must be missing something.

When I read the interview, I see a man admitting to wanting to find who raped a friend. I see him struggle with not being able to find that man and then the knowledge he never will hits him and he does what I think *anyone* would do who is suffering severe trauma.... seek to get revenge on someone looking like the perpetrator.

Someone asked earlier... would he do the same if the person was white? I'd wager a very large sum of money the answer is yes.

I just cant see the racism angle aside from the assailant being black. Liam dosen't want to hurt every black person. He wanted to hurt a specific person. When he could not find that person, his need for revenge went to the next closest target.

Help me out here... how are you jumping immediately to "Hes a racist!" while blissfully ignoring a black man raped his friend?

Liam didn't want to hurt every black person, he wanted to hurt ANY black person that gave him a "reason" to. His "reason" being that they were black.
 

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Was the first question you asked her if he was white? Did you look for random "white bastards" to kill?



Jesus fucking christ.

No it's true, you know full well this forum likes to get into an uproar over everything. Almost everyday there's a post about someone being outraged.
 

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I must be missing something.

When I read the interview, I see a man admitting to wanting to find who raped a friend. I see him struggle with not being able to find that man and then the knowledge he never will hits him and he does what I think *anyone* would do who is suffering severe trauma.... seek to get revenge on someone looking like the perpetrator.

Someone asked earlier... would he do the same if the person was white? I'd wager a very large sum of money the answer is yes.

I just cant see the racism angle aside from the assailant being black. Liam dosen't want to hurt every black person. He wanted to hurt a specific person. When he could not find that person, his need for revenge went to the next closest target.

Help me out here... how are you jumping immediately to "Hes a racist!" while blissfully ignoring a black man raped his friend?

Jesus Christ.
 

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Several people and also you have quoted that post missing the point. His revenge fantasy loses sympathy points because he's not even the one assaulted. It'd be one thing to have a binge out for the person who specifically did it, but hoping to run into some random dude who might've bumped into him wrong? He doesn't even get the sympathy of being the victim here, is my point.

Yeah he fucked up big time and acknowledged that by his own admission. Don't think he was asking for sympathy (or anyone here including myself sympathised for him) or trying to lessen the magnitude of how the victim felt?

Would he have felt the same blind rage and urgency if the perpetrator was white? Someone should pose that question to Liam and see how he responds.
 
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I just cant see the racism angle aside from the assailant being black. Liam dosen't want to hurt every black person. He wanted to hurt a specific person. When he could not find that person, his need for revenge went to the next closest target.

It seems you can't read that well. His need for revenge went to the next BLACK person, not just a random lad who passed by. Also, you must have missed the "black bastard" insult part of his story.

"I went up and down areas with a cosh, hoping I'd be approached by somebody – I'm ashamed to say that – and I did it for maybe a week, hoping some [Neeson gestures air quotes with his fingers] 'black bastard' would come out of a pub and have a go at me about something, you know? So that I could," another pause, "kill him."

Neeson is saying that he was willing to kill what he calls a "black bastard", a random one that would pass by.

He just admitted he was willing to kill a random person based on his race, killing someone for being a person of color, using the excuse that a "black person" raped his friend. What the fuck, that's downright evil and there's no excuse for it. Also the worst way to deal with those kind of situation.

Yeah he fucked up big time and acknowledged that by his own admission. Don't think he was asking for sympathy (or anyone here including myself sympathised for him) or trying to lessen the magnitude of how the victim felt?

No, he didn't excuse for the fact that he was targeting random person of color in the street. He just said the bloodlust was wrong, not that the racism going along it was wrong.
 

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Point is, he made it 100% clear that his actions were race-motivated, so trying to twist and dillute that distinction that he himself acknowledged just comes off as making excuses, to put it generously.


Hi s actions were motivated by his girlfriend being raped. Let's get it right.

He stalked around town for a week and a half because he couldn't sleep next to his partner who had been raped while he was abroad.
 

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"I went up and down areas with a cosh, hoping I'd be approached by somebody – I'm ashamed to say that – and I did it for maybe a week, hoping some [Neeson gestures air quotes with his fingers] 'black bastard' would come out of a pub and have a go at me about something, you know? So that I could," another pause, "kill him."

Neeson is saying that he was willing to kill what he calls a "black bastard", a random one that would pass by.

Lol, might have to read this now. Didn't know he took it there.
 
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What a shitty thing to reveal to his fans, if it made him feel better to get it off his chest thats because he's left it for the rest of us to deal with. He's ignorant of the effects this will have on any poc that watches anything he's in. I'm from the uk and air quoting the slur doesn't remove the venom behind it, i heard it enough growing up to know how hateful the people using it were. What an utter prick
 

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Imagine being in a constant state of near attack because of your skin color.

Wait, if you are black you don't have to imagine. Black people get targeted because of accurate and inaccurate descriptions of others. New York just trialed a white guy as a terrorist because he went around seeking black people to attack.

Fuck anyone defending his words.
 

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Liam didn't want to hurt every black person, he wanted to hurt ANY black person that gave him a "reason" to. His "reason" being that they were black.

That's a stupid position to take frankly.

If that was his view point, he would still be doing it.

He asked .. what color was the person? Likely asked weight/height, any identifiable features, etc.

Why even ask any other question besides was he black if any black person would do? Clearly he wanted to hurt the perpetrator.
 
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As a black guy, personally this revelation doesn't really move me one way or another.

Sounds like this should have stayed in a therapy session. But people also need to understand when someone is raped, it can also be very traumatic for family and friends. Sounds like he was going through a trauma and it opened up some deep very dark demons within him. And it seems he was pretty close to acting on those demons as well until he got out of that dark space about a week later.

Just based off this, I wouldn't call him a "racist piece of shit" that should be canceled permanently. Until I hear that he still goes to these dark places on a regular basis and it's leading him to take adverse actions against black people today, I think he just needs therapy. Also I'm not holding him up to the standard of being Governor of Virginia... he's just an actor. Most actors are flawed human beings and their demons and/or trauma often play a part in their performance art. You should think about that the next time you see an actor shouting racist misogynist obscenities with glee on screen. You can appreciate their work but it's why you shouldn't turn movie stars into idols and heroes.
 

Genryu

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Lol, might have to read this now. Didn't know he took it there.

So you just came in to say "lol outrage culture" without even reading what this was about?

That's a stupid position to take frankly.

If that was his view point, he would still be doing it.

He asked .. what color was the person? Likely asked weight/height, any identifiable features, etc.

Why even ask any other question besides was he black if any black person would do? Clearly he wanted to hurt the perpetrator.

I agree, wanting to kill someone because they're black IS a pretty stupid position to take.
 
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No it's true, you know full well this forum likes to get into an uproar over everything. Almost everyday there's a post about someone being outraged.

i bet you're the sort of dude who cries when someone makes a statement denigrating "all men", yet you can't understand why black people are mortified by the idea of getting murdered to satiate a white man's lust for interchangeable "vengeance"
 

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That's a stupid position to take frankly.

If that was his view point, he would still be doing it.

He asked .. what color was the person? Likely asked weight/height, any identifiable features, etc.

Why even ask any other question besides was he black if any black person would do? Clearly he wanted to hurt the perpetrator.
Yet

In the interview the only descriptor he mentioned was asking what color he was. And also called him a "black bastard".

This shouldn't be difficult to piece together
 

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He needs to do some serious elaboration on when this happened, how he got to that point, and how he has changed. Regardless of what he says, no one is obligated to forgive him or even believe him if he does say he's changed dramatically.
 

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Hi s actions were motivated by his girlfriend being raped. Let's get it right.

He stalked around town for a week and a half because he couldn't sleep next to his partner who had been raped while he was abroad.

This is fan fiction.

He walked around town for a week specifically because he wanted to murder the first black man he laid eyes on.
 
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That's a stupid position to take frankly.

If that was his view point, he would still be doing it.

He asked .. what color was the person? Likely asked weight/height, any identifiable features, etc.

Why even ask any other question besides was he black if any black person would do? Clearly he wanted to hurt the perpetrator.
Who's first thought is, "what color were they"?

Not what did they look like, "what color".

The first thought in the man's head was that. He was looking for an excuse to hurt a black person, not the actual perpetrator.
 
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A background on my upbringing in NI that means I can understand his stupidity yes. Do I think he is a racist scumbag. No of course not.

The guy just admited he was willing to kill a random person because of his skin colour and you still doubt that's racism ? Wow. That's racism period and probably the worst kind of it since we're speaking about straight murder here.

Saying that, I can understand wanting to rip the eyes of the person who raped someone close to you, I perfectly understand it. However, that's not the subject here. He was targeting a random PoC innocent in the street, for a week.
 

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That's a stupid position to take frankly.

If that was his view point, he would still be doing it.

He asked .. what color was the person? Likely asked weight/height, any identifiable features, etc.

Why even ask any other question besides was he black if any black person would do? Clearly he wanted to hurt the perpetrator.
Read what he said instead of making up shit in your head
 
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People seem to have a hard time understanding the difference between finding out someone that raped his friend/family was black, and getting so angry he wanted to get revenge on "black people" for it and intentially hoping it was a black person so he could have an excuse to go kill someone of that race.

Do you people honestly believe if the victim said it was a white man, then narrowed down his looks to ginger hair, fat etc he would have just said, "oh well. Shame he wasn't black?"
 

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I must be missing something.

When I read the interview, I see a man admitting to wanting to find who raped a friend. I see him struggle with not being able to find that man and then the knowledge he never will hits him and he does what I think *anyone* would do who is suffering severe trauma.... seek to get revenge on someone looking like the perpetrator.

Someone asked earlier... would he do the same if the person was white? I'd wager a very large sum of money the answer is yes.

I just cant see the racism angle aside from the assailant being black. Liam dosen't want to hurt every black person. He wanted to hurt a specific person. When he could not find that person, his need for revenge went to the next closest target.

Help me out here... how are you jumping immediately to "Hes a racist!" while blissfully ignoring a black man raped his friend?

Wow. Trash.

Who's first thought is, "what color were they"?

Not what did they look like, "what color".

The first thought in the man's head was that. He was looking for an excuse to hurt a black person, not the actual perpetrator.

Especially if the area is as homogeneous as posters have said.
 

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I must be missing something.

When I read the interview, I see a man admitting to wanting to find who raped a friend. I see him struggle with not being able to find that man and then the knowledge he never will hits him and he does what I think *anyone* would do who is suffering severe trauma.... seek to get revenge on someone looking like the perpetrator.

Someone asked earlier... would he do the same if the person was white? I'd wager a very large sum of money the answer is yes.

I just cant see the racism angle aside from the assailant being black. Liam dosen't want to hurt every black person. He wanted to hurt a specific person. When he could not find that person, his need for revenge went to the next closest target.

Help me out here... how are you jumping immediately to "Hes a racist!" while blissfully ignoring a black man raped his friend?

This fucking post. I don't know where to start.
 

Ashane

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Yet

In the interview the only descriptor he mentioned was asking what color he was. And also called him a "black bastard".

This shouldn't be difficult to piece together

In that short interview yes. If you think the only question asked was is he black ...then you performed a opinion already without thinking.

First question anyone, police civilian military whatever, asks is.. what skin color? Followed by height and weight then what were they wearing.
 

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I must be missing something.

When I read the interview, I see a man admitting to wanting to find who raped a friend. I see him struggle with not being able to find that man and then the knowledge he never will hits him and he does what I think *anyone* would do who is suffering severe trauma.... seek to get revenge on someone looking like the perpetrator.

Someone asked earlier... would he do the same if the person was white? I'd wager a very large sum of money the answer is yes.

I just cant see the racism angle aside from the assailant being black. Liam dosen't want to hurt every black person. He wanted to hurt a specific person. When he could not find that person, his need for revenge went to the next closest target.

Help me out here... how are you jumping immediately to "Hes a racist!" while blissfully ignoring a black man raped his friend?
Well I was definitely at the point where I didn't think that there were any more posts that could be made in this thread that could shock me. I stand corrected.

If I could find any of this funny, and I can't, it would be nobility that folks have been able to ascribe today to LIAM NEESON, a man who has spent the better part of two decades filming revenge porn and told what he thought was going to be a cool story about how badass he is. Based on some of these responses here you would think that he opened up about this at a symposium on dealing with sexual abuse and not advertising his latest revenge flick.
 

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My only thought about this is, if Neeson is truly remorseful about his racism, then he will find away to be philosophical instead of screaming "Injustice!" if he loses his career over this revelation.
 

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In that short interview yes. If you think the only question asked was is he black ...then you performed a opinion already without thinking.

First question anyone, police civilian military whatever, asks is.. what skin color? Followed by height and weight then what were they wearing.

Nah, breh, I'd just ask for a description. And we're just going by the man's words.

The ones he said.

Himself.
 

Jessie

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Liam dosen't want to hurt every black person. He wanted to hurt a specific person. When he could not find that person, his need for revenge went to the next closest target.

The "next closest target" in this story is "every black person."
 
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The guy just admited he was willing to kill a random person because of his skin colour and you still doubt that's racism ? Wow. That's racism period and probably the worst kind of it since we're speaking about straight murder here.

Saying that, I can understand wanting to rip the eyes of the person who raped someone close to you, I perfectly understand it. However, that's not the subject here. He was targeting a random PoC innocent in the street, for a week.

Yes, that is racism. I agree. He thought and acted on impulse and was going to hurt black people in anger for a rape. He admits it was disgusting behaviour, he isn't seeking sympathy. But to label the man as a racist because of something stupid 50 years ago? Damn.
 

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i bet you're the sort of dude who cries when someone makes a statement denigrating "all men", yet you can't understand why black people are mortified by the idea of getting murdered to satiate a white man's lust for interchangeable "vengeance"

You bet? You don't know me fam, at all lol. And no, I don't cry lol. You guys are funny.

So you just came in to say "lol outrage culture" without even reading what this was about?

Ehhh, I skimmed the Yahoo article. Oddly enough, that site is usually less progressive than this forum and yet they even realize people can change. As to why he brought up the story I have no idea but people can change, and that's simply my point. I will add that the "black bastard" comment does still show signs of racism if he's still saying it so openly.
 
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People seem to have a hard time understanding the difference between finding out someone that raped his friend/family was black, and getting so angry he wanted to get revenge on "black people" for it and intentially hoping it was a black person so he could have an excuse to go kill someone of that race.

Do you people honestly believe if the victim said it was a white man, then narrowed down his looks to ginger hair, fat etc he would have just said, "oh well. Shame he wasn't black?"

i really doubt you would feel this nonchalant if a black man admitting to hunting down white men to potentially murder if they gave him the barest excuse as retribution for the crimes of a white man
 

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In that short interview yes. If you think the only question asked was is he black ...then you performed a opinion already without thinking.

First question anyone, police civilian military whatever, asks is.. what skin color? Followed by height and weight then what were they wearing.
That's not what I said. I said in the interview, the only descriptor he mentioned was skin color, and recalled using the term "black bastard", even all these years later (with no other details you mentioned). That should tell you everything you need to know about his mindset, even if he wouldn't still go out and look for any black person to kill.
 

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That's a stupid position to take frankly.

If that was his view point, he would still be doing it.

He asked .. what color was the person? Likely asked weight/height, any identifiable features, etc.

Why even ask any other question besides was he black if any black person would do? Clearly he wanted to hurt the perpetrator.

Nonsense. He wasn't looking for a specific person. He was looking for any "black bastard" that would have a go at him about "something" so he could kill them.

"I went up and down areas with a cosh, hoping I'd be approached by somebody – I'm ashamed to say that – and I did it for maybe a week, hoping some [Neeson gestures air quotes with his fingers] 'black bastard' would come out of a pub and have a go at me about something, you know? So that I could," another pause, "kill him."
 

ZeroDotFlow

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This right here.

So many of you giving racist/metoo hating man a easy pass. That shows how big a problem shit like this really is
Here's a thought for you:

My mother has said in the past that she nearly raped by a man who was black. Since then, she's harbored some racism against black people due to that incident. How do you begin to unpack that without either giving racism a pass, or being a victim blamer?

I've talked with her a bit on this and I've somewhat successfully tried to defuse her racism because she's always made it clear to me that it's something she's deeply ashamed of. Trauma is going to make people behave in irrational ways. This isn't to say that her racism or Liam's racism in this case should be condoned but if we want to fix this problem then we need people to open up about it. He shouldn't be rewarded for his honesty, but nor should he be utterly vilified for it.
 

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People seem to have a hard time understanding the difference between finding out someone that raped his friend/family was black, and getting so angry he wanted to get revenge on "black people" for it and intentially hoping it was a black person so he could have an excuse to go kill someone of that race.

Do you people honestly believe if the victim said it was a white man, then narrowed down his looks to ginger hair, fat etc he would have just said, "oh well. Shame he wasn't black?"

Your brain is not working.

The scenario you're describing is not what's being discussed.

Liam went out looking for any "black bastard" to get into an altercation with, not the specific assaulter. Hence the backlash.

Go back and read the actual quote and leave your fictional mental gymnastics for the trolls unless that's your goal in the first place.
 

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Question, who here is actually black? I'd like to hear your point of views. Also, not necessarily African American, I mean dark lol. We all kind of get lumped together anyways.
 
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This is a disgusting post and you should be ashamed of yourself.

right back at you

"getting so angry he wanted to get revenge on "black people"" - you do realize that black people are people too, right? no one is going to sympathize with the idea that someone would have potentially murdered them just because they shared a superficial characteristic with the perpetrator
 

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Here's a thought for you:

My mother has said in the past that she nearly raped by a man who was black. Since then, she's harbored some racism against black people due to that incident. How do you begin to unpack that without either giving racism a pass, or being a victim blamer?

I've talked with her a bit on this and I've somewhat successfully tried to defuse her racism because she's always made it clear to me that it's something she's deeply ashamed of. Trauma is going to make people behave in irrational ways. This isn't to say that her racism or Liam's racism in this case should be condoned but if we want to fix this problem then we need people to open up about it. He shouldn't be rewarded for his honesty, but nor should he be utterly vilified for it.
Wanting to kill a random black man should 100% be vilified.

Treating a whole race the same cus 1 waste did fucked up shit should be called out.
 
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