I must be missing something.
When I read the interview, I see a man admitting to wanting to find who raped a friend. I see him struggle with not being able to find that man and then the knowledge he never will hits him and he does what I think *anyone* would do who is suffering severe trauma.... seek to get revenge on someone looking like the perpetrator.
Someone asked earlier... would he do the same if the person was white? I'd wager a very large sum of money the answer is yes.
I just cant see the racism angle aside from the assailant being black. Liam dosen't want to hurt every black person. He wanted to hurt a specific person. When he could not find that person, his need for revenge went to the next closest target.
Help me out here... how are you jumping immediately to "Hes a racist!" while blissfully ignoring a black man raped his friend?
Was the first question you asked her if he was white? Did you look for random "white bastards" to kill?
Jesus fucking christ.
I must be missing something.
When I read the interview, I see a man admitting to wanting to find who raped a friend. I see him struggle with not being able to find that man and then the knowledge he never will hits him and he does what I think *anyone* would do who is suffering severe trauma.... seek to get revenge on someone looking like the perpetrator.
Someone asked earlier... would he do the same if the person was white? I'd wager a very large sum of money the answer is yes.
I just cant see the racism angle aside from the assailant being black. Liam dosen't want to hurt every black person. He wanted to hurt a specific person. When he could not find that person, his need for revenge went to the next closest target.
Help me out here... how are you jumping immediately to "Hes a racist!" while blissfully ignoring a black man raped his friend?
Didn't you just go on about how everyone in Northern Ireland was racist at the time?A fat man is a fat bastard, a ginger man is a ginger bastard, a lanky man is a lanky bastard. You can see where I am going with this right?
Several people and also you have quoted that post missing the point. His revenge fantasy loses sympathy points because he's not even the one assaulted. It'd be one thing to have a binge out for the person who specifically did it, but hoping to run into some random dude who might've bumped into him wrong? He doesn't even get the sympathy of being the victim here, is my point.
I just cant see the racism angle aside from the assailant being black. Liam dosen't want to hurt every black person. He wanted to hurt a specific person. When he could not find that person, his need for revenge went to the next closest target.
Yeah he fucked up big time and acknowledged that by his own admission. Don't think he was asking for sympathy (or anyone here including myself sympathised for him) or trying to lessen the magnitude of how the victim felt?
Point is, he made it 100% clear that his actions were race-motivated, so trying to twist and dillute that distinction that he himself acknowledged just comes off as making excuses, to put it generously.
"I went up and down areas with a cosh, hoping I'd be approached by somebody – I'm ashamed to say that – and I did it for maybe a week, hoping some [Neeson gestures air quotes with his fingers] 'black bastard' would come out of a pub and have a go at me about something, you know? So that I could," another pause, "kill him."
Neeson is saying that he was willing to kill what he calls a "black bastard", a random one that would pass by.
"black bastard"Hi s actions were motivated by his girlfriend being raped. Let's get it right.
He stalked around town for a week and a half because he couldn't sleep next to his partner who had been raped while he was abroad.
Didn't you just go on about how everyone in Northern Ireland was racist at the time?
No it's true, you know full well this forum likes to get into an uproar over everything. Almost everyday there's a post about someone being outraged.
Liam didn't want to hurt every black person, he wanted to hurt ANY black person that gave him a "reason" to. His "reason" being that they were black.
Lol, might have to read this now. Didn't know he took it there.
That's a stupid position to take frankly.
If that was his view point, he would still be doing it.
He asked .. what color was the person? Likely asked weight/height, any identifiable features, etc.
Why even ask any other question besides was he black if any black person would do? Clearly he wanted to hurt the perpetrator.
No it's true, you know full well this forum likes to get into an uproar over everything. Almost everyday there's a post about someone being outraged.
Proving their own point, I guess.So you just came in to say "lol outrage culture" without even reading what this was about?
YetThat's a stupid position to take frankly.
If that was his view point, he would still be doing it.
He asked .. what color was the person? Likely asked weight/height, any identifiable features, etc.
Why even ask any other question besides was he black if any black person would do? Clearly he wanted to hurt the perpetrator.
So you just came in to say "lol outrage culture" without even reading what this was about?
Hi s actions were motivated by his girlfriend being raped. Let's get it right.
Hi s actions were motivated by his girlfriend being raped. Let's get it right.
He stalked around town for a week and a half because he couldn't sleep next to his partner who had been raped while he was abroad.
Who's first thought is, "what color were they"?That's a stupid position to take frankly.
If that was his view point, he would still be doing it.
He asked .. what color was the person? Likely asked weight/height, any identifiable features, etc.
Why even ask any other question besides was he black if any black person would do? Clearly he wanted to hurt the perpetrator.
A background on my upbringing in NI that means I can understand his stupidity yes. Do I think he is a racist scumbag. No of course not.
Read what he said instead of making up shit in your headThat's a stupid position to take frankly.
If that was his view point, he would still be doing it.
He asked .. what color was the person? Likely asked weight/height, any identifiable features, etc.
Why even ask any other question besides was he black if any black person would do? Clearly he wanted to hurt the perpetrator.
I must be missing something.
When I read the interview, I see a man admitting to wanting to find who raped a friend. I see him struggle with not being able to find that man and then the knowledge he never will hits him and he does what I think *anyone* would do who is suffering severe trauma.... seek to get revenge on someone looking like the perpetrator.
Someone asked earlier... would he do the same if the person was white? I'd wager a very large sum of money the answer is yes.
I just cant see the racism angle aside from the assailant being black. Liam dosen't want to hurt every black person. He wanted to hurt a specific person. When he could not find that person, his need for revenge went to the next closest target.
Help me out here... how are you jumping immediately to "Hes a racist!" while blissfully ignoring a black man raped his friend?
Who's first thought is, "what color were they"?
Not what did they look like, "what color".
The first thought in the man's head was that. He was looking for an excuse to hurt a black person, not the actual perpetrator.
I must be missing something.
When I read the interview, I see a man admitting to wanting to find who raped a friend. I see him struggle with not being able to find that man and then the knowledge he never will hits him and he does what I think *anyone* would do who is suffering severe trauma.... seek to get revenge on someone looking like the perpetrator.
Someone asked earlier... would he do the same if the person was white? I'd wager a very large sum of money the answer is yes.
I just cant see the racism angle aside from the assailant being black. Liam dosen't want to hurt every black person. He wanted to hurt a specific person. When he could not find that person, his need for revenge went to the next closest target.
Help me out here... how are you jumping immediately to "Hes a racist!" while blissfully ignoring a black man raped his friend?
Yet
In the interview the only descriptor he mentioned was asking what color he was. And also called him a "black bastard".
This shouldn't be difficult to piece together
Well I was definitely at the point where I didn't think that there were any more posts that could be made in this thread that could shock me. I stand corrected.I must be missing something.
When I read the interview, I see a man admitting to wanting to find who raped a friend. I see him struggle with not being able to find that man and then the knowledge he never will hits him and he does what I think *anyone* would do who is suffering severe trauma.... seek to get revenge on someone looking like the perpetrator.
Someone asked earlier... would he do the same if the person was white? I'd wager a very large sum of money the answer is yes.
I just cant see the racism angle aside from the assailant being black. Liam dosen't want to hurt every black person. He wanted to hurt a specific person. When he could not find that person, his need for revenge went to the next closest target.
Help me out here... how are you jumping immediately to "Hes a racist!" while blissfully ignoring a black man raped his friend?
In that short interview yes. If you think the only question asked was is he black ...then you performed a opinion already without thinking.
First question anyone, police civilian military whatever, asks is.. what skin color? Followed by height and weight then what were they wearing.
Liam dosen't want to hurt every black person. He wanted to hurt a specific person. When he could not find that person, his need for revenge went to the next closest target.
The guy just admited he was willing to kill a random person because of his skin colour and you still doubt that's racism ? Wow. That's racism period and probably the worst kind of it since we're speaking about straight murder here.
Saying that, I can understand wanting to rip the eyes of the person who raped someone close to you, I perfectly understand it. However, that's not the subject here. He was targeting a random PoC innocent in the street, for a week.
i bet you're the sort of dude who cries when someone makes a statement denigrating "all men", yet you can't understand why black people are mortified by the idea of getting murdered to satiate a white man's lust for interchangeable "vengeance"
So you just came in to say "lol outrage culture" without even reading what this was about?
People seem to have a hard time understanding the difference between finding out someone that raped his friend/family was black, and getting so angry he wanted to get revenge on "black people" for it and intentially hoping it was a black person so he could have an excuse to go kill someone of that race.
Do you people honestly believe if the victim said it was a white man, then narrowed down his looks to ginger hair, fat etc he would have just said, "oh well. Shame he wasn't black?"
That's not what I said. I said in the interview, the only descriptor he mentioned was skin color, and recalled using the term "black bastard", even all these years later (with no other details you mentioned). That should tell you everything you need to know about his mindset, even if he wouldn't still go out and look for any black person to kill.In that short interview yes. If you think the only question asked was is he black ...then you performed a opinion already without thinking.
First question anyone, police civilian military whatever, asks is.. what skin color? Followed by height and weight then what were they wearing.
That's a stupid position to take frankly.
If that was his view point, he would still be doing it.
He asked .. what color was the person? Likely asked weight/height, any identifiable features, etc.
Why even ask any other question besides was he black if any black person would do? Clearly he wanted to hurt the perpetrator.
"I went up and down areas with a cosh, hoping I'd be approached by somebody – I'm ashamed to say that – and I did it for maybe a week, hoping some [Neeson gestures air quotes with his fingers] 'black bastard' would come out of a pub and have a go at me about something, you know? So that I could," another pause, "kill him."
i really doubt you would feel this nonchalant if a black man admitting to hunting down white men to potentially murder if they gave him the barest excuse as retribution for the crimes of a white man
Here's a thought for you:This right here.
So many of you giving racist/metoo hating man a easy pass. That shows how big a problem shit like this really is
People seem to have a hard time understanding the difference between finding out someone that raped his friend/family was black, and getting so angry he wanted to get revenge on "black people" for it and intentially hoping it was a black person so he could have an excuse to go kill someone of that race.
Do you people honestly believe if the victim said it was a white man, then narrowed down his looks to ginger hair, fat etc he would have just said, "oh well. Shame he wasn't black?"
This is a disgusting post and you should be ashamed of yourself.
Wanting to kill a random black man should 100% be vilified.Here's a thought for you:
My mother has said in the past that she nearly raped by a man who was black. Since then, she's harbored some racism against black people due to that incident. How do you begin to unpack that without either giving racism a pass, or being a victim blamer?
I've talked with her a bit on this and I've somewhat successfully tried to defuse her racism because she's always made it clear to me that it's something she's deeply ashamed of. Trauma is going to make people behave in irrational ways. This isn't to say that her racism or Liam's racism in this case should be condoned but if we want to fix this problem then we need people to open up about it. He shouldn't be rewarded for his honesty, but nor should he be utterly vilified for it.
His actions were motivated by his girlfriend being raped. Let's get it right.