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LG announces new line-up of OLED TVs at CES 2020 (G-Sync compatible)
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Both will probably support HDMI 2.1 VRR. But I believe only Xbox has it confirmed for now.
Sony has officially confirmed HDMI 2.1 VRR.
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Great news!Sony has officially confirmed HDMI 2.1 VRR.
Unveiling new details of PlayStation 5: Hardware technical specs [UPDATED]
Find out more about our next-generation console
It must be pretty embarrassing for Sony's TV division that they will only have one TV on the market with a single HDMI 2.1 port by the time PS5 ships. You'd think they would coordinate behind the scenes to be like "yeah maybe we should fast track this since Samsung and LG are ahead and our own console is going to use it".
It's not even their top end models lol. The x90 this year will have it but not anything higher or lower. Super bizarre.
It's not even their top end models lol. The x90 this year will have it but not anything higher or lower. Super bizarre.
Is it safe to say this is the best available TV for next gen? I am thinking seriously about pulling the trigger on the 77".
That's what she said! Sorry.
Crazily enough my wife is encouraging me. I was going to going to get the 65" but she says it's silly because my current 2K TV is 65".
It's a very useful video, but you should also watch this one:
It demonstrates something that the DF guys didn't go into - basically, when you activate Game Mode (taking away most of the video processing features to improve latency), the PQ gap between OLED and QLED widens significantly. They go from, as the DF video notes, two different kinds of TVs with their own strengths and weaknesses, to the OLED just being better in almost every category. The QLED still has a couple of small advantages with colour, but overall if you're looking for a gaming TV and want to reduce input lag as much as possible, an OLED is the best option.
sooo glad there will be an 80+ model that isnt gimped. Really excited to reply my Samsung 82QFN
What is the optimal viewing distance for a 65" 4k TV compared to a 77"? I'm finding a lot of contradictory information online.
I'm hoping for the C9 to go further down in price! Due to burnin, I had to get my C7 repaired, but it took four repair attempts and LG just instead bought the TV right off of me!
so I'm using my 42" LG LCD 1080p panel from 2012 and man, I can definitely notice an extreme difference.
I miss the OLED and HDR so much. The colors on my lcd just look so washed out and the refresh rate seems wack.
so I'm using my 42" LG LCD 1080p panel from 2012 and man, I can definitely notice an extreme difference.
I miss the OLED and HDR so much. The colors on my lcd just look so washed out and the refresh rate seems wack.
Pretty much. The CX is better, but mostly in other ways:
What does BFI have to do with near-black uniformity?
yeah that makes no sense
BFI is for helping motion resolution, at the expense of lowered brightness
Have they said anything about the B series yet? My ass is cheap, so I'm not going to fork over CX money if the BX is going to follow in the B9's footsteps and be mostly the same.
HDR/DV - Yes. Press the ok button on the remote, then press on the icon that pops up and it will read out the current signal as well as resolution.
For FPS you need to go into the HDMI diagnostics menu. This is fairly easily done.
1. Open the channel menu
2. Highlight the top option
3. Press 1 five times in a row quickly
The HDMI diagnostics overlay will come up.
Here's what it looks like on my CX 77.
Sony LED TV's are one of the best on the (European) market right now. It just seems they're not tapping into their full potential. The last 2 years have been very lackluster when it comes to their upgrades.
1500-1600
What the heck, why does game mode on that q90 look worse than game mode on my significantly older KS9000? That beginning HZD cave scene sure didn't look like that when I played the game. The blooming with that white box also almost looks just as bad as mine, despite mine being well known to be awful with local dimming due to the KS8000/9000 being edge lit.
Wow thank you! So does this work regardless of the application/source that it's receiving signal from?
We have a Shield to an AV receiver and would still like to use it but I was curious if you could actually find that information out since I can only do it on an app to app basis currently.
Oh, is that part wrong? Are there any other mistakes in that list I should know about?
No idea - is it possible that the QLED panels aren't that great due to Samsung going all-in on video processing? It may also look worse than it really is on camera.
Camera exposure settings are going to affect how dark scenes appear in a video, and can very easily exaggerate differences in display contrast. You really can't judge this in a video, even in side-by-side comparisons.
That being said, when you put local-dimming LCDs into game mode, the dimming effectiveness is reduced - so what you see ends up being far closer to the panel's native contrast ratio.
RTINGS puts the Q90R native contrast ratio at ~3250:1, and 11,200:1 with local dimming enabled. The KS8000 has a native contrast ratio of 6900:1.
Contrast won't drop all the way to native, as local dimming is not disabled entirely, but the KS8000 is likely to have better contrast in game mode than the Q90R.
Im really wondering. Lg 65c9 is 2000e here. 65cx is 3000e
i want to be 100% futur proof for next gen. Is c9 enough ?
i read this
i want to be 100% futur proof for next gen. Is c9 enough ?
i read this
Maybe cx is better I need e-arc lpcm
looking at the 48 inch and 55 inch, its £300 difference, i feel like they got the pricing wrong, its like they do not believe the 48 would sell well, i was hoping to get the 48inch, will wait till november and see
What the heck
www.forbes.com
LG’s 2020 4K OLED And LCD TVs Don’t Support Full 48Gbps HDMI 2.1
The brand explains a very unexpected change of heart
www.forbes.com
No, and no which makes it more a spec sheet bulletpoint rather than a meaningful real world feature.
They claim the resources are being put to better uses. Not sure if that's FUD or not. But is there literally any use you'd ever have for something beyond 10-bit 4K @120hz with 4:4:4? It really seems like anything more is processing power that's there for zero practical reason.
What the heck
LG’s 2020 4K OLED And LCD TVs Don’t Support Full 48Gbps HDMI 2.1
The brand explains a very unexpected change of heart
So...waiting for 2021 TV models?
Kind of a bummer honestly. It may actually delay my purchase of a PS5 because I'm still rocking my 10+ year old 1080p TV.
Copying my response from Reddit:
Clickbait headline got me worried a bit at first. While technically not a lie, it's making it sound waay worse than it is.
So they sightly capped the maximum bandwidth, HDMI 2.1 specification goes up to 48 GBit/s, LG 2020 seems to have about 40 GBit/s and for comparison HDMI 2.0 tops at 18 GBit/s.
This means the LG 2020 models won't support 12 bit HDR at 4K... which is a total non-issue, because no panel on the market realistically supports more than 10 bit anyway. Using 12 bit wouldn't make a visible difference, and LG still supports 10 bit without any compromises at 4K 120 Hz, no chroma subsampling required. Which is the absolute maximum you can realistically expect the consoles to deliver anyway.
tl;dr: Forbes is technically correct, but you aren't losing any feature if you buy a 2020 model over e.g. a 2019 one.
Clickbait headline got me worried a bit at first. While technically not a lie, it's making it sound waay worse than it is.
So they sightly capped the maximum bandwidth, HDMI 2.1 specification goes up to 48 GBit/s, LG 2020 seems to have about 40 GBit/s and for comparison HDMI 2.0 tops at 18 GBit/s.
This means the LG 2020 models won't support 12 bit HDR at 4K... which is a total non-issue, because no panel on the market realistically supports more than 10 bit anyway. Using 12 bit wouldn't make a visible difference, and LG still supports 10 bit without any compromises at 4K 120 Hz, no chroma subsampling required. Which is the absolute maximum you can realistically expect the consoles to deliver anyway.
tl;dr: Forbes is technically correct, but you aren't losing any feature if you buy a 2020 model over e.g. a 2019 one.
When are we likely to actually get 12-bit panels? And what exactly would that give us?
I think it's too early for HDMI 2.1 capable switches. Give it another 12 months.
Today, I recommend looking at the switches sold by Sewell;
Sewell - 6x1 HDMI switch
The best you'll get is 4K@60Hz though. I've used Sewell a couple of times and they've been the most reliable and least hassle video switches I've come across.
This whole thing is peeing me off lol. I waited from 2019 to get a new 2.1 tv and still waiting😢. Onto 2021 it seems lol.
It's literally nothing. You can get a 2019 or 2020 LG OLED and both would be perfectly fine and future proof.
Well, almost. The 2020 sets will support FreeSync. It might be meaningful for an AMD or Intel GPU PC build (Intel GPU is likely to use FreeSync too).
THis can not be expressed enough, Ive had a rog swift for a few years and G Sync is a game changer for sure.
I think FreeSync support is only going to be useful if you plan to use it immediately. It isn't necessary for future proofing.
AMD has publicly stated they will release a driver update that supports HDMI Forum VRR. I would imagine that Intel would be more likely to support HDMI Forum VRR than FreeSync-over-HDMI, but maybe they will do both.
Absolutely no clue how you can come to this conclusion, it's frankly total rubbish. The LG 2020 (and 2019) OLEDs are all an absolutely perfect match for PS5 / XSX 4K HDR 120 Hz VRR.
