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LG announces new line-up of OLED TVs at CES 2020 (G-Sync compatible)
- Thread starter Earvin Infinity
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FreeSync, G-Sync and VRR are three different implementations of variable refresh rate over HDMI. The connected devices have to support the specific implementations, they're not interchangeable.
Yeah, with HDMI 2.1 you get 4K120 either way, but every device in the chain needs to support HDMI 2.1 in this case. We don't have any GPUs currently that support HDMI 2.1, so right now it's basically impossible to get 4K120.
And sorry, 120Hz BFI and Cinema Motion Pro are the same thing, it's supposed to improve black uniformity by about 50%.
The Alpha-9 Gen 3 processor is supposed to be 15% faster on the CPU and 50% faster on the GPU, probably mostly going to be a factor for the performance of post-processing and AI features, slightly less input lag etc.
Also, there's the new Filmmaker Mode that disables certain post-processing effects.
120Hz BFI and 4K120 4:2.0 support via HDMI 2.0 might be backported to the C9 line as well, afaik there isn't any additional hardware required for this.
Actually, this is not 100% correct. Freesync, G-sync and VRR are indeed three different things. But gsync over hdmi, at least the gsync on the LG oleds, are in fact VRR. In this case g-sync is nothing but branding.
So it's basically like Nvidia's G-Sync support for FreeSync displays? The G-Sync label just means that Nvidia has tested these displays to guarantee that they will be fully compatible while for everything that "only" supports VRR they don't make any guarantees, but they might still work perfectly fine with it?
Online and authorised would be an opened box as good as retail correct? Either way this is good news for prices. I'd imagine in 3 years an OLED like that will be quite affordable for many more.
Yep, it's exactly like that. It's really confusing for the end user, that's for sure.
B9 has worse processing and brightness, but it does have all the HDMI 2.1 stuff, yeah.
It's just two: HDMI Freesync and HDMI VRR. Gsync is running over HDMI VRR so it's not a separate different implementation. It's also why Gsync doesn't work over HDMI with Freesync monitors - they support HDMI Freesync only, not HDMI VRR.
It also remains to be seen what they mean by Freesync support - will they actually support Freesync HDMI or will AMD support Freesync over HDMI VRR similarly to how NV does it with Gsync.
I'm confused. I thought PC gaming is better with a monitor, so why would you want to buy a TV that is Freesync/G-Sync compatible? Would this be working through HDMI or Display Port?
Next gen consoles will support freesync. You can have a monitor and TV hooked up to a GPU to choose where you game. Play Witcher 3 on TV or Apex Legends on your monitor for example.
Connection will be HDMI 2.1 to TVs.
Wow, consoles completely missed me. I legit forgot 😂 well that makes complete sense. Well, now I'm interested
There is a setting called AI brightness, this is aiming for the same type of thing for non Dolby content.
C9 has this
I see, so really it's about price and small differences if I'm just considering next gen consoles. Let's see how low the C9 drops before deciding anything then
Online and authorized at $1599 was through HHGregg (I think) through Google Shopping. So it would be sealed in the box, US model, full warranty. GreenToe through other authorized dealsers hit $1699 once or twice, too. Again, sealed, full warranty, US model.
A modern 4K OLED HDR TV with 120Hz max refresh and VRR support over HDMI 2.1 have a huge chance of actually beating the shit out of any monitor available on sale at this time.
It's nearest competition will likely be in the form of upcoming 32" 4K 144Hz Gsync Ultimate IPS panels with 1000+ FALD which will likely cost about $5000 or so - i.e. more than these TVs.
CX with the PS5 is my goal. Hopefully it drops in price even if a few hundred once it's out of the brand new release window!
Unfortunately, the C9 and CX were built without any testing with next-gen consoles and represent a risk. Yes they can be patched but you're at the manufacturer's mercy.
The C11 will start development before next-gen releases but will have a few months for testing and tweaking things so the C11 is the very first TV to be guaranteed to work perfectly. The safest choice is to wait until next-gen releases, see how it works with C9 and CX, and then decide whether to buy a C9,CX or C11.
The C11 will start development before next-gen releases but will have a few months for testing and tweaking things so the C11 is the very first TV to be guaranteed to work perfectly. The safest choice is to wait until next-gen releases, see how it works with C9 and CX, and then decide whether to buy a C9,CX or C11.
Any mcable like enhancement build into these TV? Feels like TV Gpu are powerful enough to include a Smaa filter and something similar to freestyle sharpening /AMD RIS as special graphic filters. Would be a nice selling point for the new line up and not restricted to 1440p like mcable classic.
HDMI conformance kinda means that you don't really need testing. But you're right, it's impossible to know how older TVs will work with future console h/w. I'd still expect them to work just fine though.
Good luck getting an Gsync/Freesync OLED monitor for a decent price. The C9 has very low input lag for gaming. I have one and I use it as a monitor it's fantastic.
I held off on getting the C9 once G-Sync support (the final feature for my 'dream' TV) was announced because it was so late in the year that the CX was right around the corner. The AV1 support, and many other minor features, is why I don't just get a C9.
US Dates Pre-order. VIA AVSforum. No source listed on the posting.
2020 model pre-order schedule (USA):
CX 48" beginning 5/25
CX 55" now
CX 65" now (MSRP $2,799.99)
CX 77" beginning 4/6
GX 55/65" beginning 3/9
GX 77" beginning 3/9
ZX 8k 77" beginning 4/27
ZX 8k 88" beginning 4/13
Bestbuy has the CX 65 page up at $2,799.99. Seems to be sold out.
2020 model pre-order schedule (USA):
CX 48" beginning 5/25
CX 55" now
CX 65" now (MSRP $2,799.99)
CX 77" beginning 4/6
GX 55/65" beginning 3/9
GX 77" beginning 3/9
ZX 8k 77" beginning 4/27
ZX 8k 88" beginning 4/13
Bestbuy has the CX 65 page up at $2,799.99. Seems to be sold out.
Well, they have AI 4K Upscaling for lower resolution content. There isn't really a point to "enhance" native 4K content though.
They're built to HDMI 2.1 specifications, same as the Xbox Series X and the PS5. These specs don't just suddenly change.
Might wait to pick up the CX, was considering the C9 because it's on sale, but the CX has variable refresh rate. With the new consoles coming, I think maybe I should go with the CX over the C9 to be future proof?
My C7 crapped out on me, to the point a few repair attempts have been made and LG is offering to cash me out on it and pick it up.
My C7 crapped out on me, to the point a few repair attempts have been made and LG is offering to cash me out on it and pick it up.
C9 has vrr. I'm literally using g-sync right now on my PC.
if they don't support the full spec for vrr can you imagine what the shitstorm would actually be?
Dang, can't even preorder the 48" for almost another three months, huh? Gonna have to live w/ my fake HDR for a while longer...
Is there any chance the CX 48 inch is only 1,000? Or is that a crazy thought.
Hmm, I wonder what the 55" CX will cost. I pod around the price of the 65" CX when I got my 55" C7 in 2017.
Regardless, I'm very likely just going to wait on a sale for the CX 55" :P
That's not because of the C9 though, but because those are the only cards that can do VRR via HDMI.
It costs €1800 in Europe, so it's definitely not going to be anywhere close to that.
Next year, next year... Features like that seems like an amazing selling point tbh.
