LG announces new line-up of OLED TVs at CES 2020 (G-Sync compatible)

Hamster Plugin · Mar 5, 2020

CX doesn't seem to have anything important so I'm looking at C9 prices.

In Finland it looks like the Black Friday price of €1200 is now the normal price. Next discount should drop it to €999 and I'll get it then.

Micerider · Mar 5, 2020

Hamster Plugin said:
CX doesn't seem to have anything important so I'm looking at C9 prices.

In Finland it looks like the Black Friday price of €1200 is now the normal price. Next discount should drop it to €999 and I'll get it then.

Currently, in Belgium (prices must be close to Finland I suppose), the C9 55" is going for 1299 EUR. I don't expect it to go much further below before running out of stock (maybe another 100 max), it's usually the B series that managed to get below 1k EUR on sales. But who knows, waiting and seeing might be your luck, but it could also mean you miss an already good deal.

SixelAlexiS · Mar 5, 2020

Badcoo said:
European 2020 prices are out. Copy paste from AVSfourm.

OLED55CX9LA 4K April 2020 2.299 Euro

Oh boy, what price do you expect for this on black friday?

Pancakes R Us · Mar 5, 2020

SikSlayer said:
I'm thinking the same. Wonder how much it'll be?

I find it's usually best to wait until the new year to buy these. The prices are high at launch and then less than a year later, seem to get significant price drops.

Kinan · Mar 5, 2020

Here is the C9 price evolution in Germany:

Basically big drop in a month from launch, after that a gradual decrease with small downspike at BF.

Looking at the same graph for C7, it is unlikely that it goes below that (apart from a sell out deal somewhere), since the price becomes supply limited. C8 price, for example, is going up currently in the last 4 month.

EvilBoris · Mar 5, 2020

Kinan said:
Here is the C9 price evolution in Germany:

Basically big drop in a month from launch, after that a gradual decrease with small downspike at BF.

Looking at the same graph for C7, it is unlikely that it goes below that (apart from a sell out deal somewhere), since the price becomes supply limited. C8 price, for example, is going up currently in the last 4 month.

Supply is certainly a thing, I know that when the 9 series models had launched, most retailers were justs selling through their last stock of 8 series. It dries up very quickly.

DieH@rd · Mar 5, 2020

49CX will probably go down to 1000€ or even below it by next April.

2Blackcats · Mar 5, 2020

DieH@rd said:
49CX will probably go down to 1000€ or even below it by next April.

Looking at the above graph, I'd expect that by November

Brohan · Mar 5, 2020

Damn, I was really hoping for a better price for the 48CX. Will probably just go for a 55 C9 instead.

Brot · Mar 5, 2020

EvilBoris said:
The GX is the 20mm thing wall mounting only unit , also supports some additional broadcast standards

The WX is the wallpaper thin wall mount one

the CX is the Normal one

Any chance that the lack of VRR in the W series is somehow related to the soundbar?

EvilBoris · Mar 5, 2020

Brot said:
Any chance that the lack of VRR in the W series is somehow related to the soundbar?

The W9 supports VRR

Rosur · Mar 5, 2020

Bjones said:
Ultra thin bezels are a must have going forward. I might bite on 77 inch cx

Is thinking the 65" CX will be a perfect next gen upgrade though also need to really upgrade my receiver to have one that supports VRR.

Powerofthecloud · Mar 5, 2020

Dream_Journey said:
Anyone know if It's true G-sync will work with Nvidia Pascal series GPUs on CX series unlike 9 series?

No just Turing, ie( 1660 series or rtx series)
My 1080ti did not work with vrr. I had to swap to a 2070s for now to get gsync while waiting for the new cards later this year.

Brot · Mar 5, 2020

EvilBoris said:
The W9 supports VRR

It supports VRR but not G-Sync?

Hamster Plugin · Mar 5, 2020

Brohan said:
Damn, I was really hoping for a better price for the 48CX. Will probably just go for a 55 C9 instead.

These TVs always launch at a very high price, and then drop very quickly in Black Friday and the end of December. If you want a smaller TV, you want to wait.

Ivanovic · Mar 5, 2020

I'll be rewarding myself with a 65inch C10 and a PS5 in December. 😍😍😍😍

EvilBoris · Mar 5, 2020

Brot said:
It supports VRR but not G-Sync?

Yeah. I'd imagine that it's either an nvidia thing, or an LG thing where they haven't paid a license for that model.

They are both being odd about how they are talking about VRR/GSYNC/Freesync. They all sit on top of the same standards when going across HDMI.

Buddy · Mar 5, 2020

Question

I want a new tv for the next gen consoles and i am not shure what tv i should get. My budget is about 1500€-1700€ (will buy it in Germany). It should have a 55-65 Screen.

A coworker has a 55 c9 and i was blown away how good movies and ps4 games looked on it. Am i save to get that model for next gen gaming or do i have to get a 2020 model?

Does the c9 Support 4k 120hz with vrr? If yes i would rather buy that tv but am willing to wait fir the new ones to drop in price...

Lacrimosis · Mar 5, 2020

Buddy said:
Question

I want a new tv for the next gen consoles and i am not shure what tv i should get. My budget is about 1500€-1700€ (will buy it in Germany). It should have a 55-65 Screen.

A coworker has a 55 c9 and i was blown away how good movies and ps4 games looked on it. Am i save to get that model for next gen gaming or do i have to get a 2020 model?

Does the c9 Support 4k 120hz with vrr? If yes i would rather buy that tv but am willing to wait fir the new ones to drop in price...

Yeah C9 does all that. But im not sure youll get it for 1700. Last time I checked it was 2k at least. (Also germany)

EvilBoris · Mar 5, 2020

Buddy said:
Question

I want a new tv for the next gen consoles and i am not shure what tv i should get. My budget is about 1500€-1700€ (will buy it in Germany). It should have a 55-65 Screen.

A coworker has a 55 c9 and i was blown away how good movies and ps4 games looked on it. Am i save to get that model for next gen gaming or do i have to get a 2020 model?

Does the c9 Support 4k 120hz with vrr? If yes i would rather buy that tv but am willing to wait fir the new ones to drop in price...

Yes.From a gaming perspective they are pretty much identical.

So it's just a case of get one now and have the benefit sooner, or hang around and grab a newer model when they have dropped in price.

Navidson REC · Mar 5, 2020

Brohan said:
Damn, I was really hoping for a better price for the 48CX. Will probably just go for a 55 C9 instead.

I'm in the same boat. To me though, the 55 seems like a great middle ground. I don't want a massive TV, but I also don't wanna regret going too small. Especially for split screen gaming it would make quite the difference I feel. I'm basically waiting for something along the lines of 1100€ and then I'll bite.

SixelAlexiS · Mar 5, 2020

EvilBoris said:
Yes.From a gaming perspective they are pretty much identical.

So it's just a case of get one now and have the benefit sooner, or hang around and grab a newer model when they have dropped in price.

So the CX will have no improvement over C9 on the burn-in prevention?

EvilBoris · Mar 5, 2020

Navidson REC said:
I'm in the same boat. To me though, the 55 seems like a great middle ground. I don't want a massive TV, but I also don't wanna regret going too small. Especially for split screen gaming it would make quite the difference I feel. I'm basically waiting for something along the lines of 1100€ and then I'll bite.

The prices on some of the sets are already lower than they were a year ago. We may not seen the exact same discount strategy as last year.

Also, as has been discussed before , the 48inch model has the lowest margins, so is the one likely to be reduced the least- especially as it hold a unique position in the market with 0 competition.

Ferrs · Mar 5, 2020

SixelAlexiS said:
So the CX will have no improvement over C9 on the burn-in prevention?

C8,C9 and CX are the same in this regard.

EDIT: Well, can't be said 100%, maybe they increased the subpizel size in CX which would help but I would be surprised if that's the case, considering it didn't change with the C9 compared to the C8.

FlyStarJay · Mar 5, 2020

Badcoo said:
European 2020 prices are out. Copy paste from AVSfourm.

Source:
https://www.computerbase.de/2020-03/...r-2020-preise/
Model Resolution Availability Price
OLED65RX9LA 4K noch keine Angabe 59.999 Euro
OLED88ZX9LA 8K Mai 2020 29.999 Euro
OLED77ZX9LA 8K Juni 2020 19.999 Euro
OLED65WX9LA 4K April 2020 4.999 Euro
OLED77GX9LA 4K Mai 2020 7.999 Euro
OLED65GX9LA 4K April 2020 3.999 Euro
OLED55GX9LA 4K April 2020 2.499 Euro
OLED77CX9LA 4K Mai 2020 6.999 Euro
OLED65CX9LA 4K April 2020 3.099 Euro
OLED55CX9LA 4K April 2020 2.299 Euro
OLED48CX9LB 4K Mai 2020 1.799 Euro

Were this prices similar to the price last year? The 48inch cx seems expensive, hoping it would be below £1000, maybe I was dreaming

FlyStarJay · Mar 5, 2020

EvilBoris said:
The prices on some of the sets are already lower than they were a year ago. We may not seen the exact same discount strategy as last year.

Also, as has been discussed before , the 48inch model has the lowest margins, so is the one likely to be reduced the least- especially as it hold a unique position in the market with 0 competition.

What do you mean by lower margin please?

boredandlazy · Mar 5, 2020

I was considering the C9, but after hearing good things about the BFI I'm willing to fork out the extra.

Naked Snake · Mar 5, 2020

What's BFI good for?

Ferrs · Mar 5, 2020

FlyStarJay said:
Were this prices similar to the price last year? The 48inch cx seems expensive, hoping it would be below £1000, maybe I was dreaming

Yeah they are IIRC. If the 48CX even drops that low (which I'm not sure it will) it will only be once the 11-series releases (so around Spring 2021).

BreakAtmo · Mar 5, 2020

ppn7 said:
What was the MSRP at launch for the 55" C9 ? 2500€/$?

Kinan said:
yes.

Oh wow, this is very exciting then. I had heard prices might be dropping for this line - delicious.

Also, I think that anyone who's not sure if they want to pony up for an OLED should watch this video:

TL;DR is that while OLEDs and QLEDs are somewhat comparable in movie/cinema mode, OLED is far better by most metrics in low-latency game mode.

ppn7 · Mar 5, 2020

Motion interpolation adds around 90ms of latency. So with Vsync ON. it will be a total of 190/200ms right ?

Is there a way to test on a Pc monitor how feel a 200ms latency ? Because I can only test Vsync on so it's only 80/100ms but I still enjoy TPS games. Not sure about 200ms...

nillapuddin · Mar 5, 2020

I have a B6 (2016 65", is that how it works?)

I want to get all the new new vrr HDMI etc etc

I'm a bit confused on the new current designations, what is the difference between CX and BX ?

Brot · Mar 5, 2020

EvilBoris said:
Yeah. I'd imagine that it's either an nvidia thing, or an LG thing where they haven't paid a license for that model.

They are both being odd about how they are talking about VRR/GSYNC/Freesync. They all sit on top of the same standards when going across HDMI.

Thank you for clearing up the confusion. That's really weird but the point of LG not licensing it for that model kinda makes sense, even though it would be weird to omit it from the premium models entirely.

I guess I have to chose between the GX and WX after all. The W series would look amazing on my wall but I really hate the massive soundbar, have no use for it and wish they'd ship it with a connector box like Samsung does. The GX looks good, is thinner than the other regular models but it's still a lot thicker compared to the WX.

I care more about VRR for consoles than G-Sync but it would be nice to have. Has G-Sync been confirmed for the GX?

Baked Pigeon · Mar 5, 2020

I didn't expect the cx48 to be cheap but that price is a little high for me. I can get the c955 cheaper than that.

Serious Sam · Mar 5, 2020

Buddy said:
Question

I want a new tv for the next gen consoles and i am not shure what tv i should get. My budget is about 1500€-1700€ (will buy it in Germany). It should have a 55-65 Screen.

A coworker has a 55 c9 and i was blown away how good movies and ps4 games looked on it. Am i save to get that model for next gen gaming or do i have to get a 2020 model?

Does the c9 Support 4k 120hz with vrr? If yes i would rather buy that tv but am willing to wait fir the new ones to drop in price...

Just wait. You want TV for next gen consoles, so wait and buy TV when next gen consoles are released. End of the year LG CX will be like 80% cheaper (check that C9 price history graph above).

BreakAtmo · Mar 5, 2020

nillapuddin said:
I have a B6 (2016 65", is that how it works?)

I want to get all the new new vrr HDMI etc etc

I'm a bit confused on the new current designations, what is the difference between CX and BX ?

BX is the worse one. I'm not sure what the differences are, but the B9's cutbacks came in the form of lower brightness and an older, weaker processor leading to worse visual processing and upscaling. I remember hearing that the CX has some unique advanced AI upscaling tech the learns over time and recognises different genres - I wouldn't be shocked if the BX doesn't have that.

JiyuuTenshi · Mar 5, 2020

Planning to get the CX 48" sometime this year, but as it's only coming out in May and I'm going to be away from home for most of the summer anyway, I'll likely wait with buying it till fall.

I'm not going to be able to take full advantage of the display till getting a new GPU for my PC or one/both of the upcoming consoles, so I'm not in much of a hurry anyway. My 1440p QLED monitor should be more than enough for my current gaming setup.

nillapuddin · Mar 5, 2020

BreakAtmo said:
BX is the worse one. I'm not sure what the differences are, but the B9's cutbacks came in the form of lower brightness and an older, weaker processor leading to worse visual processing and upscaling. I remember hearing that the CX has some unique advanced AI upscaling tech the learns over time and recognises different genres - I wouldn't be shocked if the BX doesn't have that.

Edit: oops hit reply with no message

Okay so yeah that makes sense, I wonder if upscaling stuff matters to me specifically for console gaming? I guess I just don't understand how that stuff works.

boredandlazy · Mar 5, 2020

Naked Snake said:
What's BFI good for?

Increasing motion resolution. It's not as handy during games due to adding some input latency but it's great for movies and other video content.

Deleted member 26526 · Mar 5, 2020

Good that it's hitting the market at last that 48 inch beaut.

Now to wait a year for a sub £1k price!

BreakAtmo · Mar 5, 2020

boredandlazy said:
Increasing motion resolution. It's not as handy during games due to adding some input latency but it's great for movies and other video content.

For what it's worth, I have heard some people recommending it when playing games - though maybe just when they're already at high framerates. Apparently it fixes some of the common issues with sample-and-hold displays and brings things closer to the responsiveness of a CRT.

Emick81 · Mar 5, 2020

ppn7 said:
Is there a way to test on a Pc monitor how feel a 200ms latency ? Because I can only test Vsync on so it's only 80/100ms but I still enjoy TPS games. Not sure about 200ms...

Don't know if you can simulate that but from my own Experience I can say that inputlag becomes really noticeable from 40MS. I would not play on a screen with 200ms of inputlag.

Rimkrak · Mar 5, 2020

Not taking money in consideration , if I plan to buy an LG OLED for the PS5, what does the CX9 concretely has that the C9 won't? I'm not sure I understand what HDMI 2.1 entails and if the C9 will be updated for VRR and stuff like that

Yerffej · Mar 5, 2020

Rimkrak said:
Not taking money in consideration , if I plan to buy an LG OLED for the PS5, what does the CX9 concretely has that the C9 won't? I'm not sure I understand what HDMI 2.1 entails and if the C9 will be updated for VRR and stuff like that

C9 has HDMI 2.1 which allows for VRR. I'm not sure if the CX has a more feature-rich/complete HDMI 2.1? I guess I don't know if there's a difference. Therefore I think I helped you exactly 0%.

JiyuuTenshi · Mar 5, 2020

I think these are the additional features the CX line has over the C9 one:

- FreeSync support
- 4k120 over HDMI 2.0 (via 4:2:0, C9 only supports it from an HDMI 2.1 source)
- 120Hz BFI
- Cinema Motion Pro
- 3rd gen Alpha-9 processor
- Dolby Vision IQ (dynamically adjust HDR based on light sensor data)

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Rimkrak · Mar 5, 2020

Yerffej said:
C9 has HDMI 2.1 which allows for VRR. I'm not sure if the CX has a more feature-rich/complete HDMI 2.1? I guess I don't know if there's a difference. Therefore I think I helped you exactly 0%.

You see I wasn't even sure the C9 would be HDMI 2.1 ready. So you helped me at least 25% :)
I'm trying to look for it on internet, but I can't make sure what features are CX9 exclusive, with my limited understanding of technologies ^^

JiyuuTenshi said:
I think these are the additional features the CX line has over the C9 one:

- FreeSync support
- 4k120 over HDMI 2.0 (via 4:2:0, C9 only supports it from an HDMI 2.1 source)
- 120Hz BFI
- Cinema Motion Pro
- 3rd gen Alpha-9 processor
- Dolby Vision IQ (dynamically adjust HDR based on light sensor data)

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Ok so now I have these questions ^^
- Isn't Free Sync and VRR the same thing?
-C9 being HDMI 2.1 compatible, I could get 4K120 anyway on the C9 correct?
-Cinema Motion Pro : is this something similar as True Motion on older LG LCD panels like the one I currently have?
-What are the advantages of the new proc compared to the previous one?

Dolby Vision IQ seems like something I'd really want for HDR games :)

Tennis · Mar 5, 2020

I'm also planning on buying a TV for the next gen in mind. Would you recommend waiting for the PS5 reveal before buying a new TV or is something like the C9 a safe bet? I heard that the new line of Sony TV's are kind of a mess when it comes to HDMI 2.1 support and that makes me slightly nervous.

Lukas Taves · Mar 5, 2020

What would be the difference between the C and B series for the same type?

For 2019 IIRC they only added hdmi 2.1 features to the C series, but I take this is no longer the case here

Broken Hope · Mar 5, 2020

Rimkrak said:
You see I wasn't even sure the C9 would be HDMI 2.1 ready. So you helped me at least 25% :)
I'm trying to look for it on internet, but I can't make sure what features are CX9 exclusive, with my limited understanding of technologies ^^

Ok so now I have these questions ^^
- Isn't Free Sync and VRR the same thing?
-C9 being HDMI 2.1 compatible, I could get 4K120 anyway on the C9 correct?
-Cinema Motion Pro : is this something similar as True Motion on older LG LCD panels like the one I currently have?
-What are the advantages of the new proc compared to the previous one?

Dolby Vision IQ seems like something I'd really want for HDR games :)

Games aren't using Dolby Vision.

Rimkrak · Mar 5, 2020

Broken Hope said:
Games aren't using Dolby Vision.

Oh
So really if I'm only making this about next gen consoles, C9 is basically identical to CX9 for gaming or is this incorrect?

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