2019-2022 LG and Sony OLEDs calibration and general settings

[mdf/markus]

This is week one of me owning that C9. Really impressed by the PQ overall & I think I got a handle of using it in a mulitmonitor setup with my PC.


Just a few questions that came up during the first few days with it ...


- I haven't really dug through the deeper settings so far. Quite pleased with the out of the box settings like "Game" for PS4 & PC SDR&HDR, "Cinema" for Netflix/Prime/Youtube SDR, "Cinema Home" for Dolby Vision. Also turned off the energy saving & AI stuff. And I made sure to activate the Ultra Color & InstaGaming settings for the HDMI devices.
Anything else that's super important for the start of things?

- The new Ori was the first game I wanted to try PC gaming with the C9. Unfortunately the GSync still seems to be broken as the game has no option for exclusive fullscreen. I also noticed quite a lot of color banding in the intro sequence (like when baby owl flew through the clouds). Is there something I can do to prevent that from happening. I'm using 1440p@120hz for that game.

- With GSync I globally activated GSync for fullscreen, VSync & Max Frames set to 117fps. Ingame VSync off & exclusive fullscreen and I should be good to go for 1440p@120hz, right guys?

- Guess I was a bit unlucky with the panel as a stuck pixel showed up after about ~5 hours of usage. It's bright white and quite in the center of the panel. I'm using the pixel refresher in the hope to get rid of it, but most likely I'll end up contacting the LG support to discuss further steps. Anyone here has experience with stuck pixels on your LG Oleds?

 

[napk1ns]

Maybe an obvious question, but are you using game mode on your tv?

I found out if once you start a PS4 game with HDR, HDR turns on in cinema mode by default. You have to change it to game mode. so yeah, bascially there's game mode for SDR content, and a separate Game mode on HDR.

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Aha! Well, that resolves that question. Thank you! Something I need to adjust to is the serious darkness on these game modes. You see it bright and beautiful In cinema and it's hard not to wince at the heavy black that overcomes the screen when you make the switch. I went back in and changed some settings to brighten it up, but dang. Appreciate the replies tho!

 

[Detective Pidgey]

I started watching a YouTube video and to my surprise it activated HDR. I had no idea the youtube app on C9 supported HDR, sweet. Also the first time I see this, previous TV Q9FN couldn't do this and neither could the Sony 930e I believe.

Netflix. I notice when watching certain shows, in this case Narcos that the daytime scenes are great and crisp as can be but darker scenes, night scenes can look grainy as hell. I know it's the source material but man......at times just downright ugly.

 

[AnderITA]

Hey there c9 owner here, I noticed that the setting regarding logo luminescence not works as it should be: I noticed playing games like dragon ball fighterZ that the entire screen was dimming especially in lobby also when running all around (different color and in motion) anyone? (Setting are in low) thank you

 

[EvilBoris]

I started watching a YouTube video and to my surprise it activated HDR. I had no idea the youtube app on C9 supported HDR, sweet. Also the first time I see this, previous TV Q9FN couldn't do this and neither could the Sony 930e I believe.

Netflix. I notice when watching certain shows, in this case Narcos that the daytime scenes are great and crisp as can be but darker scenes, night scenes can look grainy as hell. I know it's the source material but man......at times just downright ugly.

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the Q9FN could!

 

[Perfo]

Can someone help me with RGB settings and ps4? I've been basically playing on ps4 pro with the standard Game and Hdr game modes settings on my lg c9 tv. As for the RGB range I have it set to limited on ps4 pro and on low black levels on the TV. Am I doing the right thing or should I switch to full RGB and full hdmi black levels? Thanks

 

[Azurik]

Can someone help me with RGB settings and ps4? I've been basically playing on ps4 pro with the standard Game and Hdr game modes settings on my lg c9 tv. As for the RGB range I have it set to limited on ps4 pro and on low black levels on the TV. Am I doing the right thing or should I switch to full RGB and full hdmi black levels? Thanks

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You are doing it right. PS4 limited - tv low. Even though your tv supports full (useful for use as monitor), all games, movies are only mastered in the limited anyway (please correct me if I'm wrong)

 

[EvilBoris]

Can someone help me with RGB settings and ps4? I've been basically playing on ps4 pro with the standard Game and Hdr game modes settings on my lg c9 tv. As for the RGB range I have it set to limited on ps4 pro and on low black levels on the TV. Am I doing the right thing or should I switch to full RGB and full hdmi black levels? Thanks

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That is the standard for TVs, so that's what I would stick with.

 

[Powerofthecloud]

- The new Ori was the first game I wanted to try PC gaming with the C9. Unfortunately the GSync still seems to be broken as the game has no option for exclusive fullscreen. I also noticed quite a lot of color banding in the intro sequence (like when baby owl flew through the clouds). Is there something I can do to prevent that from happening. I'm using 1440p@120hz for that game.

- With GSync I globally activated GSync for fullscreen, VSync & Max Frames set to 117fps. Ingame VSync off & exclusive fullscreen and I should be good to go for 1440p@120hz, right guys?

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I haven't played the new Ori game yet

But 1440 @120hz is my preferred set up on my c9. I don't use vsync at all. 117 cap reduces the need and with gsync unless you think you will be dipping under 40 fps, I don't see the need for it.

You would think that windowed full screen would be selected but I tried that briefly the other day and it look like it wasn't working the other day. It looked like it broke it completely regardless of being full or windowed.

 

[Cocksman]

I have a 77 B9. My ps4 pro will display 4K content if I turn HDR off. if I turn HDR on , it shows 1080p . I've tried a few different HDMI cables. Any idea why this is happening?

 

[EvilBoris]

This is week one of me owning that C9. Really impressed by the PQ overall & I think I got a handle of using it in a mulitmonitor setup with my PC.


Just a few questions that came up during the first few days with it ...


- I haven't really dug through the deeper settings so far. Quite pleased with the out of the box settings like "Game" for PS4 & PC SDR&HDR, "Cinema" for Netflix/Prime/Youtube SDR, "Cinema Home" for Dolby Vision. Also turned off the energy saving & AI stuff. And I made sure to activate the Ultra Color & InstaGaming settings for the HDMI devices.
Anything else that's super important for the start of things?

- The new Ori was the first game I wanted to try PC gaming with the C9. Unfortunately the GSync still seems to be broken as the game has no option for exclusive fullscreen. I also noticed quite a lot of color banding in the intro sequence (like when baby owl flew through the clouds). Is there something I can do to prevent that from happening. I'm using 1440p@120hz for that game.

- With GSync I globally activated GSync for fullscreen, VSync & Max Frames set to 117fps. Ingame VSync off & exclusive fullscreen and I should be good to go for 1440p@120hz, right guys?

- Guess I was a bit unlucky with the panel as a stuck pixel showed up after about ~5 hours of usage. It's bright white and quite in the center of the panel. I'm using the pixel refresher in the hope to get rid of it, but most likely I'll end up contacting the LG support to discuss further steps. Anyone here has experience with stuck pixels on your LG Oleds?

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make sure to disable PC mode for 10bit/HDR. It has a lot of banding.

 

[LardHomers]

- Guess I was a bit unlucky with the panel as a stuck pixel showed up after about ~5 hours of usage. It's bright white and quite in the center of the panel. I'm using the pixel refresher in the hope to get rid of it, but most likely I'll end up contacting the LG support to discuss further steps. Anyone here has experience with stuck pixels on your LG Oleds?

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The first week I had my 55" C9 it had a black pixel near the upper middle of the screen. I assumed it was dead, but I ran a lot of content the following days and at some point it was gone. Now, four months later, it hasn't returned. So at least in my case it seems to have sorted itself out.

 

[mdf/markus]

make sure to disable PC mode for 10bit/HDR. It has a lot of banding.

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Yeah ... heard about that one. I'm using the Game profile even with my PC.

Seems like both games I was looking forward to (Ori WotW & Doom Eternal) are having some issues with GSync at launch. Until they get patched, I'll stick to 120hz and ingame Vsync anyways - as those settings seem to make the least problems so far.

 

[mdf/markus]

The first week I had my 55" C9 it had a black pixel near the upper middle of the screen. I assumed it was dead, but I ran a lot of content the following days and at some point it was gone. Now, four months later, it hasn't returned. So at least in my case it seems to have sorted itself out.

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Sounds like some other users on reddit etc. got rid of their stuck pixels. I'm waiting 2 or 3 more weeks and run the pixel refresher every other day. Feels kind of weird bothering the LG support anyways during the whole pandamic stuff going on ...

 

[Powerofthecloud]

Yeah ... heard about that one. I'm using the Game profile even with my PC.

Seems like both games I was looking forward to (Ori WotW & Doom Eternal) are having some issues with GSync at launch. Until they get patched, I'll stick to 120hz and ingame Vsync anyways - as those settings seem to make the least problems so far.

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they both have issues with gsync? well both are off the list for now then me. Oh well not like there isnt a ton of other stuff to play.

 

[Volkama]

and run the pixel refresher every other day.

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Isn't it's bad for the panel? I don't think you should do this often.

 

[mdf/markus]

Isn't it's bad for the panel? I don't think you should do this often.

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I don't know?
Thought I read somewhere that it shouldn't be a problem.

 

[EvilBoris]

Yeah ... heard about that one. I'm using the Game profile even with my PC.

Seems like both games I was looking forward to (Ori WotW & Doom Eternal) are having some issues with GSync at launch. Until they get patched, I'll stick to 120hz and ingame Vsync anyways - as those settings seem to make the least problems so far.

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Are you set at 10bit too?

 

[mdf/markus]

I'll check that later. You mean the setting in the CP where you also set "limited", right?

 

[EvilBoris]

I'll check that later. You mean the setting in the CP where you also set "limited", right?

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yeah

 

[Ushay]

Got my C9 today, so excited. Now I just need to sort my damn house out, still a lot of building work to get done :(
Worst possible timing with the whole Coronovirus situation as well.

 

[mdf/markus]

EvilBoris

So, I still had the C9 set to RGB & 8bit in the NVCP, as it turns out. Switched to 4:2:2 and 10bit & tried it out with the intro in Ori.
Still have some banding issues here and there, but man ... the black seems way ritcher now. Is 4:2:2, 10bit, limited the way to go for all SDR and HDR Gaming on OLEDs?
Sorry if that's been answered a lot of times already - I couldn't really find a definitive answer by searching.

 

[Ninjician-]

EvilBoris

So, I still had the C9 set to RGB & 8bit in the NVCP, as it turns out. Switched to 4:2:2 and 10bit & tried it out with the intro in Ori.
Still have some banding issues here and there, but man ... the black seems way ritcher now. Is 4:2:2, 10bit, limited the way to go for all SDR and HDR Gaming on OLEDs?
Sorry if that's been answered a lot of times already - I couldn't really find a definitive answer by searching.

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RGB 444 for SDR
YcRcB 422 for HDR

 

[mdf/markus]

Without sounding too whiney ... I was hoping there would be some kind of universal setting for SDR & HDR usage in the control panel. As my plan was to launch everything through Steam Big Picture mode & I didn't wan't to fiddle around in the NVCP for every other game.

Is there a common ground in those color settings that makes sense for both usage cases?

 

[EvilBoris]

EvilBoris

So, I still had the C9 set to RGB & 8bit in the NVCP, as it turns out. Switched to 4:2:2 and 10bit & tried it out with the intro in Ori.
Still have some banding issues here and there, but man ... the black seems way ritcher now. Is 4:2:2, 10bit, limited the way to go for all SDR and HDR Gaming on OLEDs?
Sorry if that's been answered a lot of times already - I couldn't really find a definitive answer by searching.

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HDR10 is Limited range as part of it's spec, so I would expect TVs to understand that better.
All video content is pretty much 4:2:0 limited range too, so all the processing across every chip is the TV will be optimised for that.

I use 12bit 4:2:2 for HDR on a Pc/Xbox and 8bit RGB limited range for SDR

 

[EvilBoris]

Without sounding too whiney ... I was hoping there would be some kind of universal setting for SDR & HDR usage in the control panel. As my plan was to launch everything through Steam Big Picture mode & I didn't wan't to fiddle around in the NVCP for every other game.

Is there a common ground in those color settings that makes sense for both usage cases?

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At 4K and normal viewing distances I'd be amazed if you could see the difference between 422 and RGB. So you can always just leave it on that

 

[mdf/markus]

Thanks a lot, Boris!

 

[Toreal]

I just bought a 1660 Super to take advantage of Gsync on the C9, since I am forced to work from home.
Oh man running games at high frame rate at 1440p in Hdr with Gsync is something else!
The 1660 super was all I could justify as a stopgap card until the next generation graphic cards come out, but this TV will be insane in the coming years with 4k 120hz and Hdr.

I almost went with a qled, but my recent experience and this video from HDTVTest:
https://youtu.be/ZmT8yvopMLg Gaming on C9 and Q90r, I am super happy with my purchase of the C9.

 

[Detective Pidgey]

C9 here. HDR game mode with settings at default, except color temp at warm2.

Is the demo of RE3 remake in HDR on Xbox One X (but I don't think it matters if it's PS4 or PC) looking a bit washed out? And black levels just raised too much? Compare it to this video

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And I see much, much better black levels. The video is in SDR though. Why does Capcom stick with the raised blacks in HDR?

 

[SliChillax]

HDR10 is Limited range as part of it's spec, so I would expect TVs to understand that better.
All video content is pretty much 4:2:0 limited range too, so all the processing across every chip is the TV will be optimised for that.

I use 12bit 4:2:2 for HDR on a Pc/Xbox and 8bit RGB limited range for SDR

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Why 12bit instead of 10? There's no benefit for 12bit since there are no 12bit panels

 

[jamsy]

Got my E9 recently, but haven't had a chance to play around with it too much. It is a really nice TV and I think it looks much sleeker than the B9/C9. Unfortunately, the sound is definitely not as good as I thought it would be.

Are there any settings I need to change? I was playing Judgment on PS4 and there was definitely a lot of "crushed blacks" going on.

 

[Merrill]

Just set up my C9 and it's beautiful.

Is there anyway to get the ISF dark room settings on game mode? I find game mode to bright and washed out.

 

[StopMakingSense]

Got my 65" C9 and love it.

had a really scary moment yesterday. Due to Covid amazons delivery guys didn't do the initial put it on the stand and turn it on thing. They did give me a 150 dollar refund for hiring someone and my trouble. So I get a TaskRabbit guy who does tv mounting, and the first thing he does getting the tv out of the box is letting it pitch forward and fall face flat :O

Thankfully it fell into a piece of foam from the packaging and not straight onto my concrete floors and was unharmed. But I was about to kill this guy.

 

[zerocalories]

Playing on PC with SDR is fine, but when I turn on HDR everything is too dark, I set OLED to 90 and etc, and its still dark. Any ideas?

 

[da1eb7150]

EvilBoris

So, I still had the C9 set to RGB & 8bit in the NVCP, as it turns out. Switched to 4:2:2 and 10bit & tried it out with the intro in Ori.
Still have some banding issues here and there, but man ... the black seems way ritcher now. Is 4:2:2, 10bit, limited the way to go for all SDR and HDR Gaming on OLEDs?
Sorry if that's been answered a lot of times already - I couldn't really find a definitive answer by searching.

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Is this on pc or xbox on xbox should we set to 10bit too?

 

[Rickyrozay2o9]

New firmware update 04.71.25. any idea what this is updating exactly?

 

[Chef NL]

I just got a new 55C9 and it's awesome, I just have one question should I put logo luminance on high or low?
I think high will help with games with a static hud.

 

[Leona Lewis]

New firmware update 04.71.25. any idea what this is updating exactly?

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According to Reddit:

Changelog
1) fix Content provider (Youtube or Netflix, etc.) missing after s/w Update
2) fix audio mute after s/w Update

 

[P40L0]

HDR10 is Limited range as part of it's spec, so I would expect TVs to understand that better.
All video content is pretty much 4:2:0 limited range too, so all the processing across every chip is the TV will be optimised for that.

I use 12bit 4:2:2 for HDR on a Pc/Xbox and 8bit RGB limited range for SDR

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After latest findings, 4:2:2 may not be the best option anymore on Xbox.

This from the 2017 LG OLED Calibrated Settings thread:

The Xbox YCC 422 option debacle is not over yet I suppose.

This is what some reddit user is directly reporting to me:

YCC 422 Enabled:

YCC 422 Disabled:

So, even if Xbox actually sends out a 422 12-bit signal in HDR when the option is checked, there are still middle color compressions that makes some text edges "bleed" in some color backgrounds as red, and other color artifacts more noticeable by eye.

I need to further test this, but if this is true I may recommend to turn YCC 422 off altogether also for "non-PC" profiles.

What do you think is more accurate to you?

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[Monster Zero]

Playing on PC with SDR is fine, but when I turn on HDR everything is too dark, I set OLED to 90 and etc, and its still dark. Any ideas?

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Turn on Dynamic Tone Mapping.

 

[SliChillax]

Playing on PC with SDR is fine, but when I turn on HDR everything is too dark, I set OLED to 90 and etc, and its still dark. Any ideas?

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Set oled to max and contrast to max, brightness 49-50, dynamic tone mapping on, turn off the AI brightness crap

 

[Detective Pidgey]

HDR10 is Limited range as part of it's spec, so I would expect TVs to understand that better.
All video content is pretty much 4:2:0 limited range too, so all the processing across every chip is the TV will be optimised for that.

I use 12bit 4:2:2 for HDR on a Pc/Xbox and 8bit RGB limited range for SDR

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Wait, where can I find and change these settings?

 

[zerocalories]

Thanks guys

 

[EvilBoris]

After latest findings, 4:2:2 may not be the best option anymore on Xbox.

This from the 2017 LG OLED Calibrated Settings thread:

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I just checked this on the C9 in game mode

I couldn't see any perceptible difference, even aligning them with a difference comparison show no difference beyond a lil camera related difference between the two.

 

[P40L0]

I just checked this on the C9 in game mode

I couldn't see any perceptible difference, even aligning them with a difference comparison show no difference beyond a lil camera related difference between the two.

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Getting close to my B7 panel I personally saw a bit more bleeding using 422 compared to 420, so maybe 422 just works better on C9?

Also, aren't all HDR movies, TV shows and games mastered and graded at 4:2:0?

EDIT:
Unckecking 422 + 8 bit Color Depth + Standard Color Space on Xbox would mean RGB Limited 4:4:4 8-bit for SDR and an auto switch to 4:2:0 10-bit for HDR and 12-bit for DV.

So both SDR/HDR/DV signals will be just passed "raw" as their respective original source to the TV to handle, eliminating any middle re-conversion, therefore would be the more accurate settings (so that would also explain why the console defaults to those values on first configuration with a capable 4K/HDR TV).

 

[Grimace McRib]

C9 owner here since December, I'm sure it's been answered but is there a list of basic things that should be configured from the get go?

 

[ravnelis]

Hi everyone! Quick question, is there a graphic card capable of utilizing the full capabilities of LG B9 panel (4K 120Hz & G-Sync / VRR)? On my current set up I can only get 120hz @ 1080p, when I go up with resolution I have issues with G-Sync (the tab vanishes from Nvidia Control Panel) and refresh rate is lowered to 60Hz. It's a laptop with 1660ti so maybe that's the reason?

To be honest I'm surprised how well G-Sync works, everything is sooo smooooth.

I am seriously considering changing my GPU in my desktop to the one of newer Nvidia cards if this will get me G-Sync at 4K and 120Hz.

 

[NovumVeritas]

Hi everyone! Quick question, is there a graphic card capable of utilizing the full capabilities of LG B9 panel (4K 120Hz & G-Sync / VRR)? On my current set up I can only get 120hz @ 1080p, when I go up with resolution I have issues with G-Sync (the tab vanishes from Nvidia Control Panel) and refresh rate is lowered to 60Hz. It's a laptop with 1660ti so maybe that's the reason?

To be honest I'm surprised how well G-Sync works, everything is sooo smooooth.

I am seriously considering changing my GPU in my desktop to the one of newer Nvidia cards if this will get me G-Sync at 4K and 120Hz.

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I had the same issues, the culprit was that my HDMI cable was just old, getting a new one fixed it.

Do not forget to enable Instant Game response and Ultra HD output.

Afaik the 1660ti should do G Sync with no problem.

I have a gaming laptop with an RTX 2060.

In NCVP I can enabled 1440p @ 120 hz, with G-Sync enabled. And yeah GFX cards only support up to HDMI 2.0 for now.

I have the LG C9 in 55 inch.

 

[Deleted member 44371]

Hi everyone! Quick question, is there a graphic card capable of utilizing the full capabilities of LG B9 panel (4K 120Hz & G-Sync / VRR)? On my current set up I can only get 120hz @ 1080p, when I go up with resolution I have issues with G-Sync (the tab vanishes from Nvidia Control Panel) and refresh rate is lowered to 60Hz. It's a laptop with 1660ti so maybe that's the reason?

To be honest I'm surprised how well G-Sync works, everything is sooo smooooth.

I am seriously considering changing my GPU in my desktop to the one of newer Nvidia cards if this will get me G-Sync at 4K and 120Hz.

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there are no cards with hdmi 2.1 right now

 

[ravnelis]

I had the same issues, the culprit was that my HDMI cable was just old, getting a new one fixed it.

Do not forget to enable Instant Game response and Ultra HD output.

Afaik the 1660ti should do G Sync with no problem.

I have a gaming laptop with an RTX 2060.

In NCVP I can enabled 1440p @ 120 hz, with G-Sync enabled. And yeah GFX cards only support up to HDMI 2.0 for now.

I have the LG C9 in 55 inch.

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Thanks! I guess it's the cable. It does G-Sync only @ 1080p. :(
When I switch to 1440p & 120hz the screen goes black a few times and ends up with a super low resolution, something around 800x600.
60Hz works well even at 4K but no G-Sync.

I'll order a new cable today!

there are no cards with hdmi 2.1 right now

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Right, makes sense. Do we know if next gen Nvidia cards will have it?