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Let's Settle This Nerds. Who's The Best Star Trek Captain?
- Thread starter DrForester
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It's Jean-Luc. I mean, I kinda want to vote for Sisko, since his story line was much more complex. He had to make calls Picard never did. But I still go for Picard, such cool cat. Also for Sisko there should be option for basic Sisko and bearded Sisko, two very different captains.
I admit that I haven't seen the Picard show yet, might be the show knocks Picard from the first spot.
edit. Also, Sheridan would kick all their asses.
I admit that I haven't seen the Picard show yet, might be the show knocks Picard from the first spot.
edit. Also, Sheridan would kick all their asses.
I'm going with Picard. Dude is the exemplar of what a Starfleet Captain should aspire to be.
Now, I need to know how two Resetera users justified voting for Jonathan Archer. He's a worse version of Kirk, without any redeeming qualities. Like did you just misclick on the poll without realising it or what???
Now, I need to know how two Resetera users justified voting for Jonathan Archer. He's a worse version of Kirk, without any redeeming qualities. Like did you just misclick on the poll without realising it or what???
Picard was the Borg which almost destroyed mankind.
So I think the point goes to Sisko when it comes to moonlighting side gigs.
And yeah I voted for Sisko and Picard. But looking at the poll results it's so blatantly obvious the poll respondents are are 95% Millennials who grew up in the 80s and 90s. The poll results might look a little different if you had more older Gen Xers responding.
I've recently rewatched a bunch of TNG and maaaannn Picard got the S++++ rank in diplomacy, morality, and eloquence. If I'm out there straight up strange-new-worlding, I'm serving under that man. But I think of it like this:
Kirk is the man you get on your resume and a station under him is what you brag about
Picard is the boss you talk about in the interview and you got a picture of you shaking his hand in your quarters
Sisko's the boss you work with until retirement and he's your ride or die as you do your cowboy shit you learned under Kirk
Kirk is the man you get on your resume and a station under him is what you brag about
Picard is the boss you talk about in the interview and you got a picture of you shaking his hand in your quarters
Sisko's the boss you work with until retirement and he's your ride or die as you do your cowboy shit you learned under Kirk
Picard for overall. He's not the best in a fight, but he's aces at all else. He always wants to find the peaceful solution and is the epitome of Starfleet's ideals.
Janeway is actually my second. She's got most of what Picard has and is willing to risk anything she has to, outside of violating Starfleet protocol despite being on the other side of the damned galaxy, to keep her crew safe and get them home. She actually used Voyager itself as a weapon to defeat an enemy that was decimating them then Kirk-lucked her way into fixing the whole mess as though it never happened. She made temporary uneasy allies with the Borg and even freed one. she was always cautiously optimistic and preferred to trust but verify. I'm honestly trying to think of how many times where she rushed into a situation and got caught with her pants down (unlike someone who was always ready for a fight).
I don't care about Kirk. Half his movies were bad, his acting was bad and he gets too much credit for being such a space cowboy.
Janeway is actually my second. She's got most of what Picard has and is willing to risk anything she has to, outside of violating Starfleet protocol despite being on the other side of the damned galaxy, to keep her crew safe and get them home. She actually used Voyager itself as a weapon to defeat an enemy that was decimating them then Kirk-lucked her way into fixing the whole mess as though it never happened. She made temporary uneasy allies with the Borg and even freed one. she was always cautiously optimistic and preferred to trust but verify. I'm honestly trying to think of how many times where she rushed into a situation and got caught with her pants down (unlike someone who was always ready for a fight).
I don't care about Kirk. Half his movies were bad, his acting was bad and he gets too much credit for being such a space cowboy.
Lowkey Delen was about that. Babylon 5 was on point. Scenes like that are why I love sci.
A forum full of 30 somethings, this was always going to be Picard.
I wish he was my dad.
I am also deeply upset that the CBS Picard show sucks ass.
I wish he was my dad.
I am also deeply upset that the CBS Picard show sucks ass.
I do live B5, but NGL, this whole sequence - whole episode, really - never really sat right with me. They were wrong about Sheridan, but like, the structural critiques about great man theory, and how people mythologize the past to support existing power structures - that's all true. Felt like cheap point scoring.
Captain Picard and it's not even close. Cerebral, thoughtful, moral, compassionate to his enemies and loyal to his friends, trusting in their expertise and intelligence and morality to find a solution to intractable problems. He's exactly what you want in any leader.
It's just objectively TNG-era Picard, I'm sorry. I love Sisko, but he was a part-time captain at best, and spent more of his time either being the "Emissary", or being the chief administrator of a space station.
And to be clear, we are talking TNG TV show Picard - not TNG movie Picard, or the Picard of the terrible new Alex Kurtzman show.
I respect Kirk as part of the history of Star Trek, but he's a borderline cartoon character relative to Picard.
And to be clear, we are talking TNG TV show Picard - not TNG movie Picard, or the Picard of the terrible new Alex Kurtzman show.
I respect Kirk as part of the history of Star Trek, but he's a borderline cartoon character relative to Picard.
There's no settling this. You know it to be true.
Sisko is my favorite. Picard and (DIS) Pike aren't far behind. And I have a real soft spot for Janeway despite the erratic writing that poor Mulgrew endured.
Sisko is my favorite. Picard and (DIS) Pike aren't far behind. And I have a real soft spot for Janeway despite the erratic writing that poor Mulgrew endured.
John Luck Pickerd is the definitive captain.
Sisko is a close second. I'm rewatching DS9 again I'm about halfway through season 1 and I think DS9 has the best cast/characters of any of the Star Trek shows. I loved Siskos arc of being a non-believer to embodying the emissary by the end. It might be a case of being elevated by the rest of the cast/characters but I think he is one of the best.
I could easily tick the box for all the captains. I love them all in their own way.
Sisko is a close second. I'm rewatching DS9 again I'm about halfway through season 1 and I think DS9 has the best cast/characters of any of the Star Trek shows. I loved Siskos arc of being a non-believer to embodying the emissary by the end. It might be a case of being elevated by the rest of the cast/characters but I think he is one of the best.
I could easily tick the box for all the captains. I love them all in their own way.
That isn't strength. That's just having a bigger gun.
Picard > Sisko
As for Pike, I wasn't expecting much, but damn, Anson Mount has just nailed that character. Best Pike we've ever seen on screen and I can't wait for his show.
This is eye opening. I never really got into DS9 when it aired and I adored TNG. Was not really aware DS9 was as popular
I really enjoyed Voyager though so Janeway would be my 2nd choice after Picard
I need to give Discovery another shot. Watched about 5 episodes but gave up on it and I have never seen any episodes of Enterprise. Is Enterprise not liked because the show is bad or because Sam wasnt a good captain?
I really enjoyed Voyager though so Janeway would be my 2nd choice after Picard
I need to give Discovery another shot. Watched about 5 episodes but gave up on it and I have never seen any episodes of Enterprise. Is Enterprise not liked because the show is bad or because Sam wasnt a good captain?
S1 of Enterprise is weak. By the time it found its footing, it got axed.
TNG, DS9, and Disco should all be on your must watch list. Oh and don't skip the Disco shorts.
Just to point out, Kirk spent most of his time in a run-of-the-mill ship exploring the boundaries of known space. Picard spent most of his time rolling around known Federation territory, in the prized Flagship of the Federation, a ship which was explicitly named after James T. Kirk's Enterprise (most Galaxy Class ships are numbered 70000-72000-ish, but Picard's Enterprise is numbered 1701, because Kirk's Enterprise was 1701).
It makes sense that Picard was more about diplomacy and speeches, when Picard's whole mission was about waving the flag and making appearances and motivating people to rally around the Federation. When shit went sideways, Picard racked up a plenty huge bodycount.
Like Kirk, Sisko was out on the frontier, but he was mostly on the station, where things stayed relatively peaceful. Archer was actually the closest to Kirk's role, but not as good. Janeway took things to the extreme by getting tossed out to the Delta Quadrant, and she lost half her crew in the first day, but then the plot armor kicked in and her crew losses pretty much stopped (RIP Lieutenant Carey, the one man besides Tuvix that Janeway didn't give a damn about saving).
It makes sense that Picard was more about diplomacy and speeches, when Picard's whole mission was about waving the flag and making appearances and motivating people to rally around the Federation. When shit went sideways, Picard racked up a plenty huge bodycount.
Like Kirk, Sisko was out on the frontier, but he was mostly on the station, where things stayed relatively peaceful. Archer was actually the closest to Kirk's role, but not as good. Janeway took things to the extreme by getting tossed out to the Delta Quadrant, and she lost half her crew in the first day, but then the plot armor kicked in and her crew losses pretty much stopped (RIP Lieutenant Carey, the one man besides Tuvix that Janeway didn't give a damn about saving).
DS9 has a sort of love it or hate it factor, and it's popularity goes up and down depending on where you look. Resetera is one of the places where DS9 is very popular.
Picard hands down tho even he has terrible moments of captaining. That said I'll put sisko with him up there.
For me, it's Picard, though I fall into the camp of people who think that TNG Picard is an entirely separate character from Movie Picard and STP Picard, so if we're judging his character as a whole taking the movies and new shows into account, then his legacy is a tad ruined, in a way.
Sisqo and Janeway don't have that issue, so Sisqo is a close second and Janeway and Kirk are tied for third.
Sisqo and Janeway don't have that issue, so Sisqo is a close second and Janeway and Kirk are tied for third.
She is. She manages to lift Janeway above the unevenness of her writing and into something spectacular.
I read her autobiography and halfway through the series, in the middle of shooting even, she's informed the daughter she gave up as a teen/young adult is looking for her. This was during season 5 iirc. The level of class involved to process that information and then deliver your (technobabble, she states) lines is extraordinary.
DS9 is only really popular with hardcore fans, in the real world most people don't pay a lot of attention to it. Voyager is quite popular though, there's a reason they added Seven to Picard, she's popular and casual fans are expected to know who she is, that's why the surprise reveal in the trailer was so effective.
Goddamn. I consider myself quite the Trek enthusiast but I've somehow never heard of this one. That's astounding. Only makes me admire her even more. I had an acquaintance in the film industry (I guess I still do, but we've drifted apart) and back when said acquaintance was doing tech stuff for various productions she had the honor of chatting with Kate Mulgrew a few times during cigarette breaks. The woman's wisdom is next-level; I could tell she imparted some real savvy smarts upon a younger lady looking for her lot in life.
As pictured in the OP, the pool refers specially to Anson Mount's version of the character. It may not be fair, but people are also ignoring post-TNG Picard too. Besides all the incarnations of Pike are very different, you can't fold them into one character.
And Mount's Pike is great.
