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Lets face it. the true game of the year is...
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I also think that Fortnite should get some credit for putting on a massive virtual concert and a few other events, as well as releasing Party Royale.
VRChat has also been great this year with tons of conventions, concerts, galleries, parties, classes and all sorts of stuff. It's the closest thing that exists to having a true second life in a virtual world. It does reach a lot less people than Fortnite or Animal Crossing though.
Agreed. Obviously being on VR effectively kicks it out of wider recognition but it's so "next gen" in what it achieves it genuinely felt revolutionary overall vs the mild evolution you saw everywhere else.
GOTY by a fair margin but, outside VR specific awards, I doubt it'll pick up a single win.
GOTY by a fair margin but, outside VR specific awards, I doubt it'll pick up a single win.
omg. What the fuck is this? Some PS1 level openworld shit here.
Ahah, I was just being an ass, I like GoT. ^^
Don't personally agree on it being goty, but that's mostly down to me being a Doom fanatic.
There are 3rd party cables that work with Link too (you don't need the official one), but it comes with a nice cable management clip and L connector so it integrates nicely with the headset.
You'd need something in the $800-1000 range if you were to start from scratch, but in fairness most Steam users already have a good enough PC for Alyx, so the headset alone is what most active Steam users would need.
You're acting like you need all this space. I've played Alyx a second time seated. Plenty of games work like this, and my first time around I stood almost entirely in one spot. The room requirements are motion control VR are very small and non-existent for gamepad VR.
There will be more than 3000. Naturally a lot will be shovelware, but there are a lot more games than people give it credit for; plus VR has extra non-gaming value that consoles and even PCs don't provide. That may or may not be relevant to each person, but is something to consider.
I'd agree with regards to Half-Life Alyx, and maybe partially agree with beat saber.
I'm still waiting to play the Last of Us II, but I'd place it above Hades.
Nothing I played this year, perhaps outside of Microsoft Flight Simulator was as remarkable from both an innovation and execution perspective. There's no game on this planet that plays like Alyx, or gives you close to the same captivating sense of immersive storytelling. Unlike pretty much everything else I played this year, Alex feels genuinely new, even beside the other VR games I've played. The fact that it's so brilliantly executed on top of that, is what really drives that home.
So yeah, I agree. The fact that the game awards didn't even nominate Half-Life Alex or MS Flight Simulator for game of the year, shows more that thier process is either broken, or just completely unable to consider games outside of specific genres.
I'm still waiting to play the Last of Us II, but I'd place it above Hades.
Nothing I played this year, perhaps outside of Microsoft Flight Simulator was as remarkable from both an innovation and execution perspective. There's no game on this planet that plays like Alyx, or gives you close to the same captivating sense of immersive storytelling. Unlike pretty much everything else I played this year, Alex feels genuinely new, even beside the other VR games I've played. The fact that it's so brilliantly executed on top of that, is what really drives that home.
So yeah, I agree. The fact that the game awards didn't even nominate Half-Life Alex or MS Flight Simulator for game of the year, shows more that thier process is either broken, or just completely unable to consider games outside of specific genres.
What? RE2 had 2D backgrounds, RE2R has reimagined all those scenes in 3D. Yes, it uses the same blueprint, but the game feels and plays very much different than the original.
With that said, I loved Demon's Souls and yes it is a "remaster", but so much effort was put into it, I think it's almost unfair to compare it to some other remasters out there which bring higher resolution textures and better particle effects.
Anyway, OP, I haven't played Alyx, but I somehow doubt I'd like it more than TLOU2. It does seem reallt good, though.
A $300 headset and a $300 GPU are enough assuming someone has a PC of any relatively modern construction. On the topic of play space and storage, should we start including the cost of TVs and couches in console prices then? There are certainly people who will be unable to afford/play because the lack the some of the fundamental requirements, but that is very much the same of consoles or any hobby. The line of accessibility is one drawn in the sand, and really should have minimal consideration in conversations around game quality.
And there are hundreds of VR games playable; many tens of incredible ones too, though obviously that comes down to taste. But how does that factor into it's consideration for game of the year? If PS5 game development gets canceled tomorrow, should we retroactively withdraw it's game awards/nominations? The quality of a game stands alone from the number of games on a system, and at the moment great VR games faaaar outnumber anything on current gen xbox or playstation regardless.
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They didn't. It's not exclusive to any peripheral. My VR headset cost like $200
That really doesn't mean the game itself is best or anything.
And if you want to look for games that provided escapism for millions of people during this time - you could say that WoW has Animal Crossing beat. For example.
Also, just America, huh? The rest of the world doesn't have Covid?
golly i sure wish there was a pinned thread explaining why people hate on this underdog company for no reason
you know exactly the reason, you just don't care.
you might be being sarcastic in which case ya got me but there's people that genuinely post shit like that
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Are you sure $800?
Like a terabyte SSD would be a large chunk. Plus a non dodgy windows licence.
GPUs are hard to get right now and the secondhand market isn't great. Also someone without a PC would need to buy a monitor as well.
Also wasn't the index they released with the game really expensive?
Like what headset would someone get that wouldn't be trash?
But even though you can sit down the expense of VR is for the experience of walking around.
Tbh the best VR I played was when I visited a place in Macau where you wore a PC as a backpack with a gun.
And it was in a massive open space where we walked down corridors in the car world blasting robots.
Talk to the average person thats the experience the imagine.
Rather than a fancier 3D cinema. I know I exaggerate but it's the barrier to entry.
I guess so maybe more than 3000 but will input methods evolve?
Like anew game requiring a better controller or a more powerful PC.
Like a pc or headset that could play this game might not be able to play next year's blockbuster
Yes, I'm sure. 3000 series cards might be out of the question, but the game runs fine on a GTX 970. The last monitor I bought cost about $100.
A $300 Oculus Quest 2 can provide an experience that is in some ways better than an Index.
The experience of walking around is ideal, but not at all needed to have fun or fulfilment.
I mean you're still looking at probably an $800 investment at the very least? Probably more. I doubt that's a comfortable expense for many IGN reviewers.
And while I'll take your word for it that Alyx wouldn't be a space concern...they wouldn't be buying this just for Alyx, and many, many VR games do require a bit more space.
I think it's also worth mentioning that there's generally an expectation reviewers will be playing these games under the best possible conditions. So sure, you could get a Quest and run it on your average PC with your arms stuck to your side, but I don't think they'd enjoy that or feel qualified to speak definitively about the experience.
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For sure. I remember playing Half Life on PS2 and Orange Box on PS3
Oh ok, thanks a lot man. I just picked up the last headset at Walmart.
People have couches and TVs.
You know to sit down on and watch TV.
My point is with consoles having games is that there's an element of risk with buying VR compared to consoles.
There's a guarantee of quality games going to come out for the console.
VR on the other hand is a subset of games.
But to the topic of GOTYs and recognition.
I think the barrier of the extra platform and the space considerations.
Means that fewer people would play the game naturally.
Like if someone told me to play Hades, I could be playing that game in 20 minutes.
But VR is harder in that sense especially in the sense of getting many game reviewed to play the game.
I'm going to assume that the income of a game reviewer isn't majorly high.
Aha fair enough.Thats lower than I expected.
Though with Facebook owning oculus that's another can of worms haha.
At the end of the day I think Alyx winning many Game of the Year awards is a stretch for 2020.
It might be great but people didn't play it.
Because VR hasn't reached that critical mass.
And I think it's unfair to criticise people for not playing it.
This 100%
And I'll never stop saying it. Bugsnax is legit my favorite game of the year, and the one game where I always anticipated my next play session
Agreed. Every GOTY Alyx doesn't win it's a award it was robbed
I loved HL: Alyx and it'll likely have a place in my Top 5 this year...
...but, seriously, it's really not surprising at all that it's not winning tons of GOTY awards when the game is inherently very niche. People who own PCs powerful enough to play it well are a minority in the game's primary markets (NA + Europe), and of that minority only a tiny percentage actually own VR headsets. According to Steam's own hardware survey only 2% of Steam users own VR headsets; so approximately less than 2 million users if you take Steam as having 90 million active users. It's a very, very minor part of the gaming landscape right now, and so it's treated as such by gaming outlets when it comes time for GOTY deliberations.
I mean that people point towards $300 minimum spend (which, if you're outside of the middle-class Era bubble, is a lot of money) to simply play this game adequately should have been a red flag to show that, actually, it might not have been played by all that many people.
Note that I personally think that GOTY as a concept is silly for these exact reasons (i.e. that a niche game inherently has less chance than a popular one), but that doesn't mean I think it's some tragedy that this game hasn't received GOTYs from many gaming outlets.
...but, seriously, it's really not surprising at all that it's not winning tons of GOTY awards when the game is inherently very niche. People who own PCs powerful enough to play it well are a minority in the game's primary markets (NA + Europe), and of that minority only a tiny percentage actually own VR headsets. According to Steam's own hardware survey only 2% of Steam users own VR headsets; so approximately less than 2 million users if you take Steam as having 90 million active users. It's a very, very minor part of the gaming landscape right now, and so it's treated as such by gaming outlets when it comes time for GOTY deliberations.
I mean that people point towards $300 minimum spend (which, if you're outside of the middle-class Era bubble, is a lot of money) to simply play this game adequately should have been a red flag to show that, actually, it might not have been played by all that many people.
Note that I personally think that GOTY as a concept is silly for these exact reasons (i.e. that a niche game inherently has less chance than a popular one), but that doesn't mean I think it's some tragedy that this game hasn't received GOTYs from many gaming outlets.
This reminds me of when me and some friends were playing Pavlov VR. We were playing a straight rip of COD zombies in the game somehow, and we were in this extremely tense wave out in the yard. I was out of ammo, so i told me friend to through me a pistol since he was next to the guns. He throws it through the air to me, and my body had forgotten this wasnt real because i leaped into the air to catch it like a fly ball and my hands went straight into the ceiling fan.
Thanks goodness we have another Alyx crying thread open, the last one had to be nuked for being too self-pitying.
Played bugsnax. Platted bugsnax. Was thoroughly whelmed. Astro's Playroom fucking buries it.
come on this is ridiculous lol
it plays completely different from the original
its a totally new game
to be fair, I've done that with job simulator many times as well
Sure would be nice to be able to afford both the VR equipment and PC capable of playing the damn thing. I already looked up the ending when it came out since I know I'll never actually play it myself.
Also, while I don't doubt how good Alyx is, the hyperbole around VR from years back has made me suspect of any claims that no, really, THIS time it's the true best VR thing you'll ever play. Astrobot, the previous VR darling, was a very good platformer that honestly didn't need VR, and was far from the revelation everyone treated it as. Excuse me for being skeptical of anything similar in the future.
Also, while I don't doubt how good Alyx is, the hyperbole around VR from years back has made me suspect of any claims that no, really, THIS time it's the true best VR thing you'll ever play. Astrobot, the previous VR darling, was a very good platformer that honestly didn't need VR, and was far from the revelation everyone treated it as. Excuse me for being skeptical of anything similar in the future.
