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Let me Pitch Final Fantasy XVI to you
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Sold.
Double sold.
Looks at rest of thread's reactions....?! What?! I thought Tactics and Vagrant Story were fantastic, in part due to the setting. I mean, IDEALLY if we returned to Ivalice it would be for Tactics 2, but I will take any return of mainline FF to the fantasy setting.
Give a PS1 style FF game with good graphics...
THAT IS ALL THEY NEED TO DO. FCK U SQUARE ENIX, STOP MAKING SHITTY ENGINES AND TRYING TO REINVENT THE FCKIN WHEEL. LOOK AT DQ XI, EVERYONE LOVES IT BECAUSE IT DOESNT CHANGE THE DQ FORMULA, HOW IS THIS SO HARD TO GRASP? FCK U SQUARE ENIX!
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Still love you square enix
THAT IS ALL THEY NEED TO DO. FCK U SQUARE ENIX, STOP MAKING SHITTY ENGINES AND TRYING TO REINVENT THE FCKIN WHEEL. LOOK AT DQ XI, EVERYONE LOVES IT BECAUSE IT DOESNT CHANGE THE DQ FORMULA, HOW IS THIS SO HARD TO GRASP? FCK U SQUARE ENIX!
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Still love you square enix
Sorry dude that doesnt fo anything for me.. heres my short pitch.
Main character is a female orphan whos spent her entire life in a monestary. On her 18th birthday the power of magic, which was lost 1000 years ago, awakens within her. Now on the run and torn between a great machine war she must fulfill her destiny as the last great spellcaster and bring an end to the great war.
Main character is a female orphan whos spent her entire life in a monestary. On her 18th birthday the power of magic, which was lost 1000 years ago, awakens within her. Now on the run and torn between a great machine war she must fulfill her destiny as the last great spellcaster and bring an end to the great war.
exactly! Ivalice-Zodiac-Moogle-Mage isn't a game its a bunch of nonsense words.
Always down for some more Ivalice !
Now, about some of the things you've not considered :
- release date : in 5-6 years, unless SE decide to switch graphical engine mid dev, because.
- graphics : lifelike, with everything the technology has to offer up to this point, because we all know FF fans are graphic whores first and foremost (/s)
- combat : real time, mash X to auto combo.
- summons : only 3 or 4 available, can only use them on the verge of death
Oh wait...
Now, about some of the things you've not considered :
- release date : in 5-6 years, unless SE decide to switch graphical engine mid dev, because.
- graphics : lifelike, with everything the technology has to offer up to this point, because we all know FF fans are graphic whores first and foremost (/s)
- combat : real time, mash X to auto combo.
- summons : only 3 or 4 available, can only use them on the verge of death
Oh wait...
My pitch is basically look at the early 1900s setting of Valkyria Chronicles and mix that up with the style of FFIX and FFXIV. Keep in mind the the characterizations of IX and XII in particular for the cast as well.
More importantly, get some good artists and level designers to make all of it visually interesting as hell.
Meanwhile, the gameplay itself can go either way, so long as it makes sense.
More importantly, get some good artists and level designers to make all of it visually interesting as hell.
Meanwhile, the gameplay itself can go either way, so long as it makes sense.
Techno-fantasy is where it's at, lol.
FF12 looked like someone mashed together LotR with Star Wars and threw in some muskets just for the hell of it. They can return to that nonsense as much as they want, IMO. I don't care if they call the world Ivalice or Ithaslice or whatever. Just as long as I don't want to strangle the writers and I'm not bored or frustrated by the gameplay.
FF12 looked like someone mashed together LotR with Star Wars and threw in some muskets just for the hell of it. They can return to that nonsense as much as they want, IMO. I don't care if they call the world Ivalice or Ithaslice or whatever. Just as long as I don't want to strangle the writers and I'm not bored or frustrated by the gameplay.
Lost me as soon as you said Ivalice
Also yeah this is all they need to do
Also yeah this is all they need to do
Well FF14 takes a lot more than just inspiration from Ivalice since a version of Ivalice existed in Eorzea.
Couldn't care less about Ivalice and everything else sounded not very exciting.
They should just copy Final Fantasy IX honestly. Make the battle system faster and have a main character that can sell a bit better (not a furry basically) and that's it, it's really not that hard.
They should just copy Final Fantasy IX honestly. Make the battle system faster and have a main character that can sell a bit better (not a furry basically) and that's it, it's really not that hard.
Gimme a perfectly balanced mixture of turn based and action combat with a class/job system
Make it kind of where you can only do so much movement or attacks per turn and speed/dexterity and good decisions in battle dictates whether or not you go more than once per turn kind of like the press turn system from SMT4 but movement on the field like fire emblem but on a 3d plain so you can jump or fly around but only in the area that your stats allow per turn and you get a certain amount of MP and Ap per turn. Dunno if that has been done before
As for classes and jobs make it like the old school way but add new classes and allow for training of skills and being able to switch classes while retaining exp and bonuses from classes or jobs that you leveled through as well as being able to craft or customize unique weapons for each class and job that can be used in other jobs once an occupation has been leveled to completion. As well as being able to earn unique skills from each job
Also give it some varied locations in the world like a super dank pirate ship, or beautiful lost ruins in a jungle or body of water or castles in sprawling mountain ranges . And make it feel like it actually covers a good portion of the game world not just 3 or 4 cities and that's it.
Make it kind of where you can only do so much movement or attacks per turn and speed/dexterity and good decisions in battle dictates whether or not you go more than once per turn kind of like the press turn system from SMT4 but movement on the field like fire emblem but on a 3d plain so you can jump or fly around but only in the area that your stats allow per turn and you get a certain amount of MP and Ap per turn. Dunno if that has been done before
As for classes and jobs make it like the old school way but add new classes and allow for training of skills and being able to switch classes while retaining exp and bonuses from classes or jobs that you leveled through as well as being able to craft or customize unique weapons for each class and job that can be used in other jobs once an occupation has been leveled to completion. As well as being able to earn unique skills from each job
Also give it some varied locations in the world like a super dank pirate ship, or beautiful lost ruins in a jungle or body of water or castles in sprawling mountain ranges . And make it feel like it actually covers a good portion of the game world not just 3 or 4 cities and that's it.
A new version of the incredible locations of FF12 would be dope. The art design was so strong because of how inspired and daring it was.
and cool new races and armor design like this
Ivalice has so much more to deliver. There's a reason the FF14 Ivalice raid is so well-liked.
Absolutely, Hydaelyn is an excellent world, but it does have some things crossing between the two, before Eorzeavalice was integrated into the world.
and cool new races and armor design like this
Ivalice has so much more to deliver. There's a reason the FF14 Ivalice raid is so well-liked.
Absolutely, Hydaelyn is an excellent world, but it does have some things crossing between the two, before Eorzeavalice was integrated into the world.
What's the purpose of this thread? Does OP just want to share his FF fangame idea?
I was contemplating FFXVI being a 16-bit throwback because then maybe we'd get it in the next 3 years. I'm a bit upset at the idea of FF being a one game per generation series now. Fuck HD development. Realistic graphics aren't worth it.
I was contemplating FFXVI being a 16-bit throwback because then maybe we'd get it in the next 3 years. I'm a bit upset at the idea of FF being a one game per generation series now. Fuck HD development. Realistic graphics aren't worth it.
I've nothing to pitch but I'm curious if they will reiterate the FFXV Comrades experience into a proper game. I have not played this but I believe feedbacks were not so bad. If FFXVI or another FF title happens to be in this form, will you be interested in playing?
FF9 world, Freya is the protagonist and she is trying to restore Sir Fratley's memory.
The game has 3 acts:
Act1 - Early years, her training, meeting him and then disaster strikes.
She does everything to get him back but when she does, he has amnesia and it just keeps getting worse, she asks for the help of some new and old friends. While trying to produce a cure aboard an airship, they unintentionally create and spread a new disease that is turning parts of Gaia into zombie/ghost towns. In the midst of the action Sir Fratley disappears.
Act2 - She now has to find the cure for the outbreak, while investigating the whereabouts of Sir Fratley. Many people die which makes her question her own motives and it's consequences.
The richest man in Gaia (a pirate with a taste for blood sport) puts out a bounty for a cure, finds it, kills the inventor and keeps it for himself. He makes a tournament with very sadistic rules, in which the victor has to battle him and win, while not killing him, to become his guardian for the rest of his life in exchange for him to give the cure to the people.
Act3 - Out of guilt for the outbreak, Freya decides to participate in the tournament aware of all it's consequences; upon arrival she spots Sir Fratley's name on the rooster.
Gimmie!
The game has 3 acts:
Act1 - Early years, her training, meeting him and then disaster strikes.
She does everything to get him back but when she does, he has amnesia and it just keeps getting worse, she asks for the help of some new and old friends. While trying to produce a cure aboard an airship, they unintentionally create and spread a new disease that is turning parts of Gaia into zombie/ghost towns. In the midst of the action Sir Fratley disappears.
Act2 - She now has to find the cure for the outbreak, while investigating the whereabouts of Sir Fratley. Many people die which makes her question her own motives and it's consequences.
The richest man in Gaia (a pirate with a taste for blood sport) puts out a bounty for a cure, finds it, kills the inventor and keeps it for himself. He makes a tournament with very sadistic rules, in which the victor has to battle him and win, while not killing him, to become his guardian for the rest of his life in exchange for him to give the cure to the people.
Act3 - Out of guilt for the outbreak, Freya decides to participate in the tournament aware of all it's consequences; upon arrival she spots Sir Fratley's name on the rooster.
Gimmie!
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If someday a FFIX Remake is announced, I hope to see this in a DLC or something!
I mean, I'm not a Square Enix executive, but you can stop right here, because I'm already sold, lol.
Of course, the rest of your pitch is also interesting. I particularly like the giant Moogle guy :). Gives me some good Cait Sith vibes, haha.
I'd like to see a hard sci-fi / space exploration-based FF. With a classic turn based system, and a more "wide linear", less bland open world structure.
Older protective sister, younger impulsive brother. Sheltered from ongoing political, economical, technological and magical conflicts across the world whilst growing up. Narrative is their personal growth as they struggle with various issues. Gameplay centred around a 'bond' system where you can customise each sibling however you want and a lot of magic and abilities synergise depending on how you customise. i.e red mage and archer = flaming arrow hell.
One sibling dies at the end paving the way to a sequel. Conspiracy theorists link FFX/XIII delete as applicable.
One sibling dies at the end paving the way to a sequel. Conspiracy theorists link FFX/XIII delete as applicable.
Your pitch begins with a desire to commercially revitalize a declining franchise mire by convoluted plots, tropey characters, overwrought world building, and archaic design choices*.
What follows is a jargon-filled, self-referential pitch heavily dependent on lore from past games. Not exactly commercially viable.
The best pitches capture emotion, narrative, and design using simple (but effective) images, ideas and comparisons. And if there's one thing Final Fantasy could use a bit more of moving forward, its simplicity.
*I say this as a longstanding fan of this franchise.
What follows is a jargon-filled, self-referential pitch heavily dependent on lore from past games. Not exactly commercially viable.
The best pitches capture emotion, narrative, and design using simple (but effective) images, ideas and comparisons. And if there's one thing Final Fantasy could use a bit more of moving forward, its simplicity.
*I say this as a longstanding fan of this franchise.
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Set the next FF in space. Fantastical, almost Amano-ish spacefaring vessels criss-crossing the Ivalice star system. Massive crystal planetoids with Moogle miners. Space station Alexandria, based on the form of the classic summon.
Counterbalance the sci-fi themes with a rustic visual design that completely purges all traces of Star Trek influence. No unitard uniforms and no clean white walls. Pure dirty, whispy fantasy, just in space. Maybe a little Dune DNA is acceptable.
Counterbalance the sci-fi themes with a rustic visual design that completely purges all traces of Star Trek influence. No unitard uniforms and no clean white walls. Pure dirty, whispy fantasy, just in space. Maybe a little Dune DNA is acceptable.
I do think bringing back the mix-and-match job system in some fashion would be a great idea; or perhaps an evolution of the Esper/GF concept of attaching specific summons to specific people as a sort of empowering pact. An underrated issue with FF13/FF15 is that the character growth and equipment systems are pretty dull and unrewarding (and I'd posit that improving those aspects of either game would do away with a lot of people's complaints about the battle systems).
World-design-wise I think something zoned like FF12 is a smart bet for places to take the series in the future to be honest.
Don't really care about medieval vs. futuristic as long as the characters and presentation are compelling.
World-design-wise I think something zoned like FF12 is a smart bet for places to take the series in the future to be honest.
Don't really care about medieval vs. futuristic as long as the characters and presentation are compelling.
I bet you would also talk about shifting paradigms in said meeting
Final Fantasy needs to be less character-oriented and more role-oriented, the genre of the main character doesn't matter, it's not like that automatically makes a good or a bad character.
The series needs to have a focus on something. If they want to make a big world to explore and lots of stories to tell on it, then spend like 3/4 of the whole development cycle building that world and working on the lore.
If they want a game explores a deep and meaningful story over the characters, then create characters interesting enough to sustain some dilemmas and some evolution during some kind of journey.
If they want the players to get immersed in an universe they build, then just forget the overworld and work on the locations. Cities like Luca (FFX) and Archades (FFXII) are good examples. Of course, good graphics can be done by anyone these days, but a fully functional fantasy city isn't something easy to do, and I think FF lacks on that department.
Of course, nothing on this can save a bad or mediocre screenplay or a fault gameplay. But establish a focus should be the main point for the future of the series.
The series needs to have a focus on something. If they want to make a big world to explore and lots of stories to tell on it, then spend like 3/4 of the whole development cycle building that world and working on the lore.
If they want a game explores a deep and meaningful story over the characters, then create characters interesting enough to sustain some dilemmas and some evolution during some kind of journey.
If they want the players to get immersed in an universe they build, then just forget the overworld and work on the locations. Cities like Luca (FFX) and Archades (FFXII) are good examples. Of course, good graphics can be done by anyone these days, but a fully functional fantasy city isn't something easy to do, and I think FF lacks on that department.
Of course, nothing on this can save a bad or mediocre screenplay or a fault gameplay. But establish a focus should be the main point for the future of the series.
They should stop to make stupid games with Gods or Goddesses, or at least study Theogony of Hesiod or at least some real philosophy that isn't written by a Teenager
I'm ready to receive the stones thrown at me.
I don't know why everyone is so reluctant to use Ivalice again. At least with a set universe we won't have to worry about SE fucking up the world or theme of the game. We can think of the possible world themes of a FF game as a continuum between fantasy and technology/sci-fi. We've had enough of the futuristic games for a while now, we need to return back to medieval fantasy with added tech like Ivalice.
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Ding!
Also, to the people saying "Final Fantasy In Space" ... oh, you mean Star Ocean?
Cause that's how you get Star Ocean.
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh you just have to make it GOOD?! *slaps forehead* OH right!! Yeah, no, totally, yah!
