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They actually don't explain there is a unit limit in any tutorials. (at least, not that I could see)
I lost my first match because of that very fact, not knowing there even was a limit.
With all things just do whatever and don't copy things online for maximum enjoyment
Is there no summoning sickness in Yugioh? I've never played it.
Yeah, fair point. Learn the basics, go through the regions, then move on to ranked once I have a clearer picture. I save my rank obsession/frustration for HS. I don't need two games to drive me nuts...
Has anyone tried rerolls? Is it one per day? Should I attempt rerolling my 1k quest for 1.5k?
Nope, but you can only hit face if the board is clear, so everything has taunt basically.
Gave this a shot yesterday at launch.
My first impressions were that I'm pretty disappointed in how little they actually changed from the beta. The framerate lock discussed earlier in the thread being the most obvious example, as it was reported on day one of the first closed beta test only for Riot to basically completely ignore it. Why even have a closed beta if you're not willing to change things? The pricing of expeditions still being astronomically high is also disappointing to see.
After playing for a bit, I really wish there was some sort of an official rulebook for this. There's a lot of rules that are clearly inspired by MTG but work in subtly different ways that the (forced and incredibly long) tutorial does a really poor job of explaining. For example, when attacking: if the opponent declares blockers, you get an extra window to respond with spells. But if he just lets the attack go through with no blockers, that window doesn't happen for whatever reason. Which is actually a pretty important change from MTG and has caused me to lose a game before I realized how it works.
I'm also really not sold on the economy yet. It doesn't seem super terrible, but when so many of its competitors either shower you with free stuff (Shadowverse, Gwent), give you accessible or even unlimited sealed/draft options (pretty much every game that isn't MTGA), or offer extremely cost effective real money ways of getting a deck (PTCGO), this just seems incredibly oppressive in comparison. Maybe it's slightly better than Hearthstone or MTGA, but the reason I quit those games in the first place is because I just don't have the time to dedicate my life to grinding them. And Hearthstone for all its flaws at least had a reasonably priced Arena mode as a way of building up a collection, which this does not.
The core gameplay is pretty fun though, and the game feels super polished with the visuals and audio. Or it would, if it wasn't locked to 30fps for some reason (and saying they did it this way to have parity between phones and PC makes zero sense when even crappy mobile gacha games give you an fps toggle in the menu these days). I'll probably keep playing for a couple of weeks and see where I end up reward wise.
My first impressions were that I'm pretty disappointed in how little they actually changed from the beta. The framerate lock discussed earlier in the thread being the most obvious example, as it was reported on day one of the first closed beta test only for Riot to basically completely ignore it. Why even have a closed beta if you're not willing to change things? The pricing of expeditions still being astronomically high is also disappointing to see.
After playing for a bit, I really wish there was some sort of an official rulebook for this. There's a lot of rules that are clearly inspired by MTG but work in subtly different ways that the (forced and incredibly long) tutorial does a really poor job of explaining. For example, when attacking: if the opponent declares blockers, you get an extra window to respond with spells. But if he just lets the attack go through with no blockers, that window doesn't happen for whatever reason. Which is actually a pretty important change from MTG and has caused me to lose a game before I realized how it works.
I'm also really not sold on the economy yet. It doesn't seem super terrible, but when so many of its competitors either shower you with free stuff (Shadowverse, Gwent), give you accessible or even unlimited sealed/draft options (pretty much every game that isn't MTGA), or offer extremely cost effective real money ways of getting a deck (PTCGO), this just seems incredibly oppressive in comparison. Maybe it's slightly better than Hearthstone or MTGA, but the reason I quit those games in the first place is because I just don't have the time to dedicate my life to grinding them. And Hearthstone for all its flaws at least had a reasonably priced Arena mode as a way of building up a collection, which this does not.
The core gameplay is pretty fun though, and the game feels super polished with the visuals and audio. Or it would, if it wasn't locked to 30fps for some reason (and saying they did it this way to have parity between phones and PC makes zero sense when even crappy mobile gacha games give you an fps toggle in the menu these days). I'll probably keep playing for a couple of weeks and see where I end up reward wise.
It cannot be understated how awesome it is that you can get full XP benefits when playing with friends. You could essentially make a fresh account with 1 friend or a group and only play amongst yourselves and get full progression. Pretty much got the first 7 rewards of my first region exclusively building dumb decks with a friend.
Betas are typically for tinkering and testing. Things that came out of this beta include: balance changes, economy changes, server load testing. Something like graphical improvements are not always trivial. Also, remember we are still in open beta and NOT full release. And the devs have stated they will revisit the framerate (no guarantee on improvement though).
I had the same problem. Here's a handy chart from earlier in the thread.
Agreed. High barrier to entry and having to play 3 before you can play arena for fun is suspect. 15 dust per common when it takes 4k for a champion is an absolutely abysmal rate.
I'm going to give it a go today. I've become so jaded with Arena and the horrible monetization of the game (looking at you, Brawlidays) and the current state of EVERYTHING NISSA + KRASIS. I plan on dropping Arena for a while until rotation and getting into LoR.
What's the best option for a new player, collection wise? Are there, like, starter decks I can purchase? And if so, which ones are the best value?
What's the best option for a new player, collection wise? Are there, like, starter decks I can purchase? And if so, which ones are the best value?
Add me up anyone, let's start building collections and testing new decks IllumiNate 1 / NA1
The games gives you 3 started decks off the hop, well after you've completed the tutorial
You get three decks for the tutorials, plus numerous "battle-pass" tiers with cards and stuff. Play through all the tutorials first, then regions. Honestly, don't buy anything yet.
Yup. I ended up just playing Bursts earlier than I would because I wasn't sure when the game would stop giving me the window. Wish it was clearer like MTGA.
Edit: Thanks for the chart, Lumination
One thing that chart didn't note: If I attack with a challenger and force a block, if my opponent doesn't assign more blockers, they have effectively skipped blockers, not allowing me to respond again. It makes sense, just not obvious.
Not that i know of
Seems to be sometime between 10pm and 645 am cst as i got another daily this morning
Man I'm a huge sucker for card games. Would've loved to try Runeterra. But I can't support a company like Riot. I'm not judging others. I'm happy you folks are enjoying a good game (and I know a lot of good people have worked on it). I just can't do it myself.
I've actually seen that chart before, but at least to me it reads like you always have a spell window after the block phase, instead of only having it if the defender actually blocks.
I've found this reddit post to be much more helpful, as it explains the actual logic behind how priority works, including combat.
I don't know about maxing, but you should be able to get to level 10 - which is where you want to get to.
One of my fav things so far, albeit very minor, is when the card drops on the battlefield the art extends.
I'm not so good at card games. I'm embarrassed to say it took me 4 tries to understand what to do in that 'Overwhelm' tutorial
IIRC if you didn't 'apply' to be in the beta before Jan 19th, it doesn't open up until 11AM PST today.
i played 4 for demacia!s in one game in expedition. gl winning thru that lmao
yeah the battle phase isn't the most obvious but I def like it
You can also see the whole art of each card. To do so click on a card to inspect it, at the bottom there is an icon with an "eye" 👁 , clicking on it will give you the full screen version of the art piece.
Saw this on reddit, lol
(Yes that is the deny spell denying a deny spell denying... you get the idea )
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The game is super fun.. the grind is real but not so exhausting like other card games.
I hope they give us more ways to get crystals soon because they are quite rare so far.
Can you turn owned cards into crystals? I checked but didn't see an option for it
I hope they give us more ways to get crystals soon because they are quite rare so far.
Can you turn owned cards into crystals? I checked but didn't see an option for it
You cannot. One downside to this system compared to hoarding cards for the nerfed dust value.
lol you're right. In fact, it omits the exact point we're talking about, so double egg on face.
If you can't break down cards, can I assume it's not possible to get more copies of a card then you can use then?
You will not open duplicates of Epics and Champions unless you own them all. Commons and Rares get auto-dusted.
ah good to know.
I kind of figure I will just be using my dust for the exploration thingy if I don't want to spend money on the game lol.
Every Tuesday - Vault Day - you should be at Level 10.
If so, you'll get at least:
1,680 crystals
8 common wild cards
4 rare wild cards
1 expedition token (which is at least 1 champion card)
ah good to know what the other things were lol. I knew that I would get an expedition token but not what else or what the expedition token would get me if I used it lol.
I'm at 7 right now so ideally i will get there by tuesday.
13 is the max, but the rewards/xp drop off by a bit. They claim that they planned on making 10 the max, but due to beta feedback, they added three more less efficient levels to cater to power users.
the token lets you play expedition
if you immediately concede, you'll get a random champion card
if you decide to play, depending on how well you do you'll get 0-3000+ experience, more wild cards, capsules and crystals. if you get 7 wins, you'll also get another expedition token.
13 is max, but 10 is the goal. if you do each daily quest, you'll be basically at 10 where you get the champion card + best rewards. going beyond that will likely take real time.
