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Lebron James thinks Daryl Morey was misinformed on China [see updated OP for clarification]
- Thread starter Mr.Awesome
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So making exceptions for Freedom is what MLK actually meant.
Is your radical view?
You could just stop now instead of twisting yourself into such a pretzel that you are now demolishing the ideals of a Civil Rights Giant.
I'm not even on the dude's side but I find invoking MLK usually only happens when we're lecturing black people about something. It's just tiresome. Like I literslly only see MLK brought up for this reason. Lebron is not MLK and it's not like MLK himself was infallible. Quoting that tweet over and over is just disingenuous. Dude gets it wrong and now its "but what about the MLK tweet you posted!! Guess you aint shit!!" Yes, he has fucked up bad. Yes he deserves a lot of criticism. No, I personally dont find value in what you're doing, it comes off as obnoxious.
Its the type of thing that I as a black person just makes me not even wanna fucking interact with people on social issues.
A civil rights giants who was religious based on Christianity which was made by white people for white people.
Same religion that caused Botham's brother and Father to spit on his grave in public.
If MLK wasn't religious I can bet you that he would not have been on this bullshit.
also like above poster said how dare you.
White Supremacy again trying to shove me some MLK quotes on me to keep me docile
I will say this:
It would be nice if this degree of...passion...would be channeled by some of you into calling your congressman and sitting in on some local city government meetings instead of yelling at each other on a video game forum.
This was more fun when everyone was dunking on lebron and not invoking Martin Luther King Jr. for the 4000th time.
I dont even get how this turned into an argument on lebron doesnt have to care about non black people when he could have just sidestepped the questions.
His fans think it's easier to defend him being a yellow-bellied coward from that angle.
Defending a genocidal authoritarian state to preserve your earnings.
Such a radical view.
To be fair, it's about as good as the defense LeBron was playing last year before he got hurt.
The pure idiocy of that statement. Jesus. He can care about whatever he wants, but that's not what he did here. He told someone who did care about someone other than himself and his own people to shut the fuck up. It's OK to be silent about an issue if you feel like it, but it sure as fuck isn't OK to tell others to shut up about issues they care about. Or are you saying it's cool when other people tell Lebron to shut up and dribble because they dont like the causes he does choose to support? So many damn hypocrites in this thread.
Between his past darfur comments and this it seems pretty clear Lebron doesn't give a damn about anyone other than "his" people, and even that's just about making money.
He's no Ali, that's for sure.
Or maybe people just think he's a hypocrite for throwing people who support a just cause under the bus.
Nah can't be it, all these people in this board are out for black people actually. Everyone's a racist.
Like literally all anyone had to say this this (starts at 3:00 minutes):
You don't even have to go ham and blast anyone or even say "FREE HONG KONG". Stotts doesn't even mention Hong Kong. You just got to say that these are American values, we're American and that's what I've got to say about the situation. But instead you have guys like James Harden and LeBron James jumping into the deep end trying to resuscitate their potential Chinese income stream by accepting and propagating Chinese nationalist propaganda. Its not even the players, Steve Kerr's statement and even Pop's statement were super tepid, long winded and were more concerned about deflecting this towards the honestly easy punching bag that is Trump and his administration.
Like you'd think that this would be a gimme statement but no one has bothered to take it because they're so terrified about losing a few million from their already hundreds of millions because China might be terrified of anything that doesn't say "Hong Kong is a super complex situation and Morey is uneducated" or "Sorry China for my GM saying offensive things to you, we love you, you treat us really nicely".
It shouldn't piss me off this much but it really does piss me off how quick these guys are willing to throw their colleagues - who really have done nothing truly objectionable - under the bus because they potentially cost them a small percentage of their earnings that they don't remotely need to survive.
You don't even have to go ham and blast anyone or even say "FREE HONG KONG". Stotts doesn't even mention Hong Kong. You just got to say that these are American values, we're American and that's what I've got to say about the situation. But instead you have guys like James Harden and LeBron James jumping into the deep end trying to resuscitate their potential Chinese income stream by accepting and propagating Chinese nationalist propaganda. Its not even the players, Steve Kerr's statement and even Pop's statement were super tepid, long winded and were more concerned about deflecting this towards the honestly easy punching bag that is Trump and his administration.
Like you'd think that this would be a gimme statement but no one has bothered to take it because they're so terrified about losing a few million from their already hundreds of millions because China might be terrified of anything that doesn't say "Hong Kong is a super complex situation and Morey is uneducated" or "Sorry China for my GM saying offensive things to you, we love you, you treat us really nicely".
It shouldn't piss me off this much but it really does piss me off how quick these guys are willing to throw their colleagues - who really have done nothing truly objectionable - under the bus because they potentially cost them a small percentage of their earnings that they don't remotely need to survive.
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Check the soles of your shoes. You stepped LeBron on some bullshit. Might needs to clean them.
Y'all still arguing with this troll account? They've done exactly what they wanted to do, get the conversation away from Lebron's shitty statment and leaning it towards race. He's baiting you guys.
Why is this discussion is being framed as those who disagree with Lebrons' take do so because he is black and the central issue about this whole thing is about injustices done to black people?
I mean, what?
I mean, what?
Fact is someone as influential as Lebron has a significant impact so his voice, when he chooses to use it, matters to people a great deal. I wouldn't reduce that to "yelling at each other on a video game forum".
Notwithstanding how nice it would be if there was more civic engagement and grassroots political involvement in general... but at a minimum I appreciate that people are siding with democracy and free speech, rather than just looking to put positive or neutral spin on things.
The hardest stanning, the weirdest strawmen, the most ridiculous hottakes. Lebron and his team would've gotten imprisoned or killed if they didn't denounce the statements of some random NBA official and anyone who disagrees with Lebron might actually be a racist in disguise.
I'll take the heat for that one since I brought it up to address faceless asking why people were expecting him to speak on other issues. I saw that he wasn't just using it in the tweet that some people keep sharing but at other times as well. By doing so repeatedly he's branding himself as being about the same type of work and if he's not really about that he should stop doing it because he's going to keep creating that expectation of himself to the public that he means all people. If he is truly only interested in helping black people in America, there are other black activists that he could quote that will make that clear. I never got the vibe from him that these were empty platitudes though.
It's why I don't identify as a pacifist or try to sell myself as one. I'm for nonviolence but I will never say that I'm a pacifist as there are situations that I might find myself in again where, to stay safe, I may unfortunately have to defend myself or those I care about as I have in the past.
My main thing was pushing back while reading this because that safety excuse kept cropping up and it was stupid as hell as a deflection. If our people's safety is at risk doing business in that country, they shouldn't be there and I'd want the players to feel supported enough to come out and say they're not going.
Wish you all could understand Chinese and read comments from Hong Kong's local forum. The attack on James mind-boggling, I mean it's one thing to dislike or disagree with a person's political stand, it's a whole new level to make racism insults on an entire race. I'm not just making a scene out of a few posts. There were an awful lot ugly curses (thankfully some people come to their minds and call for stops) that make me vomit.
I'm sympathetics to the protest in general but sometimes I have to wonder is it really freedom or democratic they are fighting for? And the hypocritical shows all these politicians have put on(where are you when people form Ecuador or Haiti or Catalonia are oppressed?) doesn't help too. Easy for them to just throw a tween and be couch fighter without ever see or talk or investigate on matters. Guess it serves the crowds and medias today. Make a stance that satisfy majority's appetite is far more important than actual logical analysis. James is not wrong on staying away from the political issues he's not familiar or involved with. He's smart and won't be a tool for certain politicians
I'm sympathetics to the protest in general but sometimes I have to wonder is it really freedom or democratic they are fighting for? And the hypocritical shows all these politicians have put on(where are you when people form Ecuador or Haiti or Catalonia are oppressed?) doesn't help too. Easy for them to just throw a tween and be couch fighter without ever see or talk or investigate on matters. Guess it serves the crowds and medias today. Make a stance that satisfy majority's appetite is far more important than actual logical analysis. James is not wrong on staying away from the political issues he's not familiar or involved with. He's smart and won't be a tool for certain politicians
He didn't stay out of this political issue though. He started criticising others on how they discussed it. If you are unfamiliar with/uneducated on an issue, you can't criticise someone else for being uneducated on it.
Nobody is required to be an ultimate freedom justice fighter that is trying to solve every possible injustice in universe. But then you can't claim to be one either. Issue here is that Lebron has built a brand on speaking out on social issues. So this "not everyone has to be a politician" -talk is bad for his credibility and puts his motives in question.
Let's take me as an example. I don't have the time or the energy to comment on every issue, spread awareness on every problem and boycott every product that has a problem related to it or company that makes it. I also haven't found a politician to vote for that is 100% perfect in every way imaginable. I have to make priority choices where to direct my energy, and Hong Kong issue is one where I have directed my energy. But now that I have taken part in this discussion, anyone is free to point things I have done wrong on the topic, give suggestions what I should do on this issue and otherwise criticise my knowledge on the task at hand.
We are not gods with unlimited power and capabilities, so asking "where are you when" is not really fair.
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who's paying you
When have people every reciprocated a neutral stance with indifference? Of course they would've shat on him lol.
People here blow more smoke than a choo choo train.
The overreactions say that much.
Still attempting to defend the indefensible, I see. The fact that you look at this situation and think the problem here are the people criticizing Lebron says all that needs to be said about who you actually are.
BAHAHAHAHAHA
Keep huffing and puffing my guy.
Don't forget to pat yourself on the back on the way out.
Yep, literally 99.9 percent of the NBA has clammed up. All he had to do was say nothing. Instead he chose to attack the one guy who wasn't afraid to take a stand. Real genius PR move.
Real dissappointing.
I feel thats the whole point for me. He didn't have to say shit. But he did, and and ultimately he picked a side because he criticizes someone else who had also picked a side.
I feel thats the whole point for me. He didn't have to say shit. But he did, and and ultimately he picked a side because he criticizes someone else who had also picked a side.
Good thing the dogpile is on your side and won't challenge this post at all.