Make something less convenient has nothing to do with usability? Okay.
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Latest PS5 System Update version 20.02-02.30.00 released on 12/9
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Make something less convenient has nothing to do with usability? Okay.
I too have this on a game I deleted. Its now left of the store icon, a grey icon
I didn't excuse anything. I just said that the issues are exaggerated. I probably should have said that the frequency is exaggerated. I'm not denying that people have problems but I'm also not telling users they should be afraid of their console getting bricked if they use rest mode.
Who cares dude? You have nothing to add to the conversation then.
I didn't tell anyone to be afraid. I asked a question to find out whether I can safely use a feature of the console, because up until now, I can't.
Again it's a question of functionality, which can impact usability, but functionality issues are not specifically usability issues.
Have used Rest mode twice since launch, haven't had issues (as of yet). But it's good that the notes indicate there's something to each update, this time being the front USB ports. Outside of initial set-up, i've not charged my PS5 controller using the ports. Been charging via my Switch when power is low, however got a USB C to C cable coming so i'll (hopefully) be making use of the USB C port on the front. Only had 2 crashes, but i'm 99% sure it was game related (was playing Maneater). An update came out for it prior to the firmware update, so hopefully it's fixed. Haven't had issues on anything else though.
And have used the ethernet port a couple of times to download big games like Destiny 2, thinking of just taking the plunge and plugging it in. If the console breaks, it breaks. Yes, i'll be disappointed and will have to wait for a repair/replacement/refund. But i've still got my PS4 boxed up, and claimed the PS+ collection so at least there's some games to fall back on.
And have used the ethernet port a couple of times to download big games like Destiny 2, thinking of just taking the plunge and plugging it in. If the console breaks, it breaks. Yes, i'll be disappointed and will have to wait for a repair/replacement/refund. But i've still got my PS4 boxed up, and claimed the PS+ collection so at least there's some games to fall back on.
An earlier issue I had was the USB cable that came with the console only charged 1 out of 2 controllers. The cable itself worked if I used a power brick and it charged both controllers just fine. I swapped the cable with one of several I have since my phone has been USB-C for years now, and it worked on front port no problem. Randomly last week I decided to test it again (after the first patch) and the accompanied cable now charged both controllers from the front port with no issue. I couldn't make heads or tails of it so said screw it whatever.
In terms of "issues" I've had Miles crash once and only once while swinging through the city. I have played BC games, Miles & Astro.
I've been using Rest mode since Day 2 when ya freaked me out, but said let me take a chance and do it.
LAN cable since about Day 4 because I still had to move around my devices/cables
No external yet which is what I've been battling with, but currently visiting the in-laws so haven't purchased anything (I know we shouldn't be visiting anyone, but happy wife/I get to play when we get back).
In terms of "issues" I've had Miles crash once and only once while swinging through the city. I have played BC games, Miles & Astro.
I've been using Rest mode since Day 2 when ya freaked me out, but said let me take a chance and do it.
LAN cable since about Day 4 because I still had to move around my devices/cables
No external yet which is what I've been battling with, but currently visiting the in-laws so haven't purchased anything (I know we shouldn't be visiting anyone, but happy wife/I get to play when we get back).
Been using one since day 1 along with rest mode. I haven't transferred anything over from my ps4 so that might be a reason why I'm ok. Had several issues when transferring from ps4 to ps4 pro.
So the front USB port charging problem is fixed? Need to try this out.
I have not had any rest mode shenanigans since last update.
I have not had any rest mode shenanigans since last update.
Hard crashed with a system shutdown? Or just a crash to the dashboard?
This happens when I delete multiple applications.
Re-download, then delete the icon from your dashboard once it appears in color.
Restoring licenses cleared off leftover icons from deleted PS4 games for me.
With the update having been out for less than 24 hours, how many posts of anecdotal evidence will enough to deem the feature "safe"?
Version 20.02-02.26.00
- This system software update improves system performance.
- An issue where installed disc versions of games were sometimes deleted was resolved.
- An issue that prevented the PS5 wireless controller from being charged while in rest mode when connected to the PS5's front side USB Type-A port using the USB cable included with some PS5 consoles was resolved.
I must say, I didn't think it would be possible to make the PSN store wrose, and yet.....Sony proved me wrong.
A factory reset formats the entire drive to a known state and wipes everything for real, while "reset to default settings" doesn't. So if you have a lot of data in "Other" even after deleting all game installs, consider a factory reset to recover that space.
Are these actual issues, or half heard rumors?
From what I can tell, usb hard drives seemed to be the core issues around rest mode (And possibly the Spiderman Remaster, which was game specific).
The ethernet port issues seemed to be about the system transfer utility, not just basic use.
I'm not targeting you specifically, buy it just feels like the fears around this stuff are so vague that we've lost the core of the actual problems people want fixed. Feels like one needs to read pages of threads just to narrow down the real issues.
I've been using rest mode and the ethernet port since launch. I've had 3 crashes, 2 related to Spiderman (Not rest mode related), and one hang at start on Demon's Souls that seems to have resolved itself. (No external usb hard drive for me, but plenty of controller and Switch charging.)
It has no categories. Just what's displayed and the search doesn't bring things up the old search would.
Someone who hasn't had any problems with Rest Mode since launch has literally just as much to add to the question of "is rest mode safe to use?" as someone who has had problems. If he only hears from people who have problems, he won't get an accurate answer.
Five pages ago:
Official changes from Sony site:
- This system software update improves system performance.
- An issue where installed disc versions of games were sometimes deleted was resolved.
- An issue that prevented the PS5 wireless controller from being charged while in rest mode when connected to the PS5's front side USB Type-A port using the USB cable included with some PS5 consoles was resolved.
How to update system software on a PS5 console
For the best PlayStation experience, make sure your PlayStation®5 console system software is always updated to the latest version.www.playstation.com
By "he" you mean me right? Because I asked the original question. And as far as that original question of mine goes, people who have never had any problems are irrelevant. In this case, only those who previously had problems with rest mode - their experience after this patch is what's important.
Hmmm... from all videos I have seen showing the store it seems way better to me. But I don't have a PS5 yet and haven't used it myself so I don't know.
But from what I have seen, you have featured sections highlighting certain games that change, and you can go to an All games list with a lot of filters or categoric groupings on that page. And there is a search bar that works like a search bar.... I don't know what more could be asked of a store really.
No, a third of the capacity was left as I have been playing for a few hours.
My bad, I didn't know that you were the question asker. Though that kind of makes it worse, because your response comes across as very rude to somebody answering your question.
I work in retail. If somebody asks, "is the two year protection plan worth spending money on?" I could find plenty of people that would say "no way" and give their horror stories. But there are also tons of people who love it and are really happy they bought it. If you only heard from the people who disliked it, you'd think it's universally bad.
In fairness, there are people who aren't using their USB ports, ethernet port, or rest mode right now because they're afraid something terrible is going to happen to their PS5. Understanding whether an issue is widespread or related to some specific setup is valuable. There's a tremendous amount of context missing from these bug reports that would be very useful, and that includes knowing that not everyone is effected (Which particularly sticks in my craw as a software tester).
So I had my t7 ssd plugged in the usb-c in the front, and it would stay off with the ps5 in rest. Now it stays on even in rest. Is that part of the patch?
My dude, I appreciate your thoughtful response, but I respectfully disagree. My goal here has nothing to do with public perception of rest mode and whether or not it is broken or not. All I care about is whether my very real problems with it are fixed. I work in software development, and when we fix a problem, we need good data. I.e. did someone who previously had the problem, after getting the fix, stop experiencing the problem. In this regard, people who never had the problem to begin with have nothing of value to add when it comes to determining whether or not the problem has been fixed.
Yeah there are no categories. Half the time I can't even find the sales that are active. I missed the previous sale because it never popped up in the Featured tab, and you have no way of searching for the sale itself.
Basically less information is displayed, without organization.
Are you sure this doesn't have to do with your rest mode settings?
There is a setting that lets rest mode to charge your controller only for 3 hours and then it stops.
Off the top of my head, the lack of the PS Store having a section to get to the sales, the fact that you can't check for update for a game within your Game Library and can only do it from the titles listed in the home screen, and how many more steps it takes to put the system to sleep are three issues of usability that have regressed.
That's fair. If YOU had problems with Rest Mode on PS5 and are wondering if it's safe for you to go back to it, then I agree that the people without any problems don't add anything.
If, however, you haven't even tried Rest Mode because of the people who've had issues, then I think the people without issues are useful in determining the reach of the problem. If only, say, 5% of people have issues with it, I'd say it's relatively safe to use. Of course, we don't know the percentage, but just saying. It would be unfortunate for you to not take advantage of rest mode just because a small portion of users have problems. But if you yourself had problems with it, then I totally understand waiting.
Well it has worked at noon after I updated, now it's no longer working. I have also checked the settings again, charging in rest mode is still active.
:(
I've been on rest mode every evening since I bought the PS5, except for one evening where I had planned to turn off a breaker. No issues yet. I did close down MM since there seemed to be an acknowledged issue, I kept it on for the last two days with no issues yet.