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TheKeipatzy

Member
Oct 30, 2017
2,716
California for now
You all are ready to hear my stories? I hope so. I have been a part of this as a side gig and a full time job for a few months when I was between jobs. Did over... 2200? Deliveries and such

This is my last week because according to their driver specialist I had repeatedly tried to take advantage of their system taking a while on deliveries. Of course after pointing out that Subway as a company has been notorious for keeping their tablets off and it on average taking 30 minutes, it wasn't a valid enough excuse so I am no longer with them... It's whatever. I am sure I am to blame

It wasn't much, but the truth is, there are stories to tell. Unlike what you hear from other customers I'm going to share my experience as a driver as I believe somebody else wants did so feel free to take everything under consideration and I can speak a little on doordash but this will be focused on GrubHub today.

1. The Flasher: 5 times. 5 times, I delivered to this address and this horrible apartment apartment E4 somewhere in Rialto... I dreaded being there cuz I knew the guy was going to be there in his robe and accidentally drop it to expose his hard-on. Another strange thing was the first time this happened when he ordered with Doordash he was immediately banned from the service. It took five times before GrubHub did anything about this and in fact I had to threaten that I would go to the police if they did not do anything...

1.2. Dog crap tosser- yes I literally had crap thrown at me and took a picture for GrubHub this dude is still on the service... All because he didn't get his Winchell's donuts in time. :/

2. Other drivers: from the Jack in the Box crew who would open the bag in front of the employees and eat their fries, to the others who would throw their stuff into a small bag and then proceeded to chuck it into their car... Oh boy. There are stories to tell. I shall say, I became friends with one last year, would constantly see him at the local Shakey's.

3. Worst restaurants to order from: Hands down? Subway and Taco Bell. They will often Mark deliveries as ready, but then either turn off the tablet (Subway) or forget about the order in the case of Taco Bell. This causes delays, do expect it to take at least 45 minutes. I would highly recommend most people if you are going to use GrubHub go for the local places or any place that would be considered a traditional sit-down restaurant. Denny's, IHOP etc. They are very clear and prompt.

4. The truth about pay: don't believe the lies, any excuse that they can do to have you not get their "minimum wage" (at $11 an hour currently in California per their contract) they will use. App freezes? You weren't present, no minimum! Bad reception at a hospital? You missed an order! No minimum. Customer not at their address and you take over 20 minutes to deliver, including the time that you try to call them and customer service? You might still get the minimum but understand customer service might blame you for not delivering it still! Expect to wait 30 minutes at least to deliver for a no-show. I don't mind it honestly does give people a chance but I have seen other drivers just leave the food somewhere and leave... It's very common.

5. The huge region: I worked under the Inland Empire North map. To give you an idea of how big the region was and how far I could drive, it goes from Pomona to the West, down to Chino Hills South, East to North Riverside, and across to miss Rialto.

For those not in California, is about 20 some miles across.. like a big rectangle. But imagine, 15 people or so in charge of delivering your food, add in traffic, and it gets crazy! I can't tell you the number of times that I've been sent 30 minutes out of my way for something that needs to be delivered and dropped off in 5 minutes.

Don't get me wrong in those cases I will immediately contact both the restaurant and the customer but the truth is, there will be delays, and customers aren't going to be happy. and the funny thing is as soon as you pick up the order you will generally get an order for where you just were that needs to be delivered with the same restrictions... I was just there for goodness sake! *Looks at the time, order was ready when I got the first order!*


Anyways, just wanted to get this off my chest I do have another job coming up starting the early 2020 and hopefully that'll get me back as a stopgap before I go back into the medical field. Need to re up my CPR card for that and get an offer somewhere closer than 50 miles away.

All I wanted was extra money on the side and I swear it's been a struggle... In time, I hope I can do better, I must really. I will say it was better than Uber and Lyft c:

Thank you all for reading. I can answer questions later if you have any or want any other stories.
 

piratepwnsninja

Lead Game Designer
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
3,811
Doesn't seem like it was too terrible? I mean, the flashing stuff is real bad.

Honest question, is it something worth doing to make a few bucks if you only did it on the weekends?
 

Syril

Member
Oct 26, 2017
5,895
For those not in California, is about 20 some miles across.. like a big rectangle. But imagine, 15 people or so in charge of delivering your food, add in traffic, and it gets crazy! I can't tell you the number of times that I've been sent 30 minutes out of my way for something that needs to be delivered and dropped off in 5 minutes.
This is the opening of Snow Crash.
 

Jag

Member
Oct 26, 2017
11,669
Thanks for sharing. I've never used the services, but I have heard some weird stories. Hope your 2020 is better.
 

Mcfrank

Member
Oct 28, 2017
15,200
All of these services are gonna be radically different in a few years. The truth is it should cost more than $4 to have a human being go pick up food and bring it to you in their own vehicle. It is completely unsustainable and it is built on the backs of people who need extra income the most.
 

Kaiken

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,180
Two months ago I used DoorDash and the person dropping my food off was smoking a cigarette. That was the last time I used any of these services.
 

-PXG-

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,186
NJ
I'm always polite and tip my GrubHub delivery drivers. I imagine they go through hell.
 
Oct 27, 2017
45,011
Seattle
Sounds pretty horrible, after miles/gas/upkeep on vehcile, do you actually earn any real $$?

Also I know people claim they get confused when they think the 'delivery fee' is the same as the 'tip' Did that happen often?
 

Jakenbakin

Member
Jun 17, 2018
11,794
I did Postmates for a couple of months last year.

My experiences were certainly... more pedestrian than yours. Lol.
 

sfedai0

Member
Oct 27, 2017
9,932
I did Postmates for a couple of months last year.

My experiences were certainly... more pedestrian than yours. Lol.

I tried Postmates for shits and giggles and was deactivated in 3 weeks. The delivery pay is actually insulting. I dont know how people break even, let alone go in to the black.
 
Apr 24, 2018
3,605
Geeze. I was in a situation without a car in a new city temporarily and I used Door Dash for 2 weeks. My orders were often 30-45 minutes late (after the "expected delivery time"), but I understood that these people often had to drive a fair distance. I still tipped well every time, regardless. I can't believe the unrealistic expectations/terrible attitude that some of these people seem to have...
 

Jakenbakin

Member
Jun 17, 2018
11,794
I tried Postmates for shits and giggles and was deactivated in 3 weeks. The delivery pay is actually insulting. I dont know how people break even, let alone go in to the black.
Maybe I was just lucky but I averaged about $20/hr based off, for the most part, my tips. If It weren't for my desperate need of insurance at the time I might've just stayed with it for longer to be honest lol.
 

Sincerest

Member
Jan 22, 2018
606
The one time I opened my door and saw the driver still in the car sneaking a few fries into his mouth from my order, I knew I wouldn't be using any of these App delivery services again.

Edit:

Two months ago I used DoorDash and the person dropping my food off was smoking a cigarette. That was the last time I used any of these services.

God damn this is way worse.
 

Br3wnor

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
4,982
All of these services are gonna be radically different in a few years. The truth is it should cost more than $4 to have a human being go pick up food and bring it to you in their own vehicle. It is completely unsustainable and it is built on the backs of people who need extra income the most.

It's a house of cards that will have to bottom out once they aren't subsidizing the deliveries any more and we'll see what this type of food delivery service should actually cost at market.
 

Pooh

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,849
The Hundred Acre Wood
All of these services are gonna be radically different in a few years. The truth is it should cost more than $4 to have a human being go pick up food and bring it to you in their own vehicle. It is completely unsustainable and it is built on the backs of people who need extra income the most.
Problem is that most people aren't going to be willing to pay that premium, so they're all going to disappear. Basically we're all stuck waiting until drone technology is good enough to drop off our orders on our doorstep.
 

PepsimanVsJoe

Member
Oct 26, 2017
6,119
I've been a pizza delivery driver for over 15 years.
Never fucked with grubhub or any of those other apps though. If you want decent service, stick to restaurants that hire their own drivers.
 
Oct 27, 2017
12,282
My partner and I use Seamless all the time in NYC and never had any problems and mostly from local chinese restaurants. I wonder if this is strictly a regional problem.
 

efr

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Jun 19, 2019
2,893
All of these services are gonna be radically different in a few years. The truth is it should cost more than $4 to have a human being go pick up food and bring it to you in their own vehicle. It is completely unsustainable and it is built on the backs of people who need extra income the most.
They ban the best delivery drivers like OP because theyre consistent. Eventually they will run out of people and only have barely legal drivers delivering. The system will crash.
There's a reason fast food places dont have their own delivery services, they cant pay for fuel and minimum wage, theyd lose money.

I did Ubereats for a few weeks in the summer when my real job was slow and I wanted to make some extra money for a vacation I took in November. One person claimed I stole their food on three different trips. She lived on the fourth floor of public housing that had locked doors and refused to come down to let me in. GPS showed how long I was there, showed me waiting, showed me enter after someone else let me in, and showed me waiting at her door. $35+ worth of food orders each time. She called and complained, said she never got her food, and the person in India doing customer service granted her wish and now my Uber and UberEats account are suspended indefinitely. I called to get answers and no one cares. I went to Uber's "green light" in my city and spoke to someone who told me everything above, but she had no power to fix my account.

Let Uber die.
 

Fiction

Fanthropologist
Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,727
Elf Tower, New Mexico
I drove for postmates for a bit. Never did more than 10 or so deliveries a day but if you wait in the right area and are ready to snatch the more profitable (pricey) orders you can make some bank. Once delivered 150 dollars worth of steak dinner 3 miles with a 40 min wait at the restaurant and got something like 20 bucks for the base and the customer tipped fifty so it was 70 dollars for less than an hours worth of work. It was awesome.
 

LuigiMario

Member
Oct 28, 2017
3,933
I've been a pizza delivery driver for over 15 years.
Never fucked with grubhub or any of those other apps though. If you want decent service, stick to restaurants that hire their own drivers.

This is generally my rule of thumb as well. Turning delivery driving into a shitty gig economy with no liability is something I am adamently against especially when delivery driving wasn't a shitty broken business model in the first place. I've seen local places fire delivery drivers in favor of meal delivery apps, it's awful.
 

Kieli

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Banned
Oct 28, 2017
3,736
Doesn't seem like it was too terrible? I mean, the flashing stuff is real bad.

Honest question, is it something worth doing to make a few bucks if you only did it on the weekends?

Having dog shit thrown at you and having someone flash themselves is not too bad?

What kinda jobs you working dude?...
 

PepsimanVsJoe

Member
Oct 26, 2017
6,119
This is generally my rule of thumb as well. Turning delivery driving into a shitty gig economy with no liability is something I am adamently against especially when delivery driving wasn't a shitty broken business model in the first place. I've seen local places fire delivery drivers in favor of meal delivery apps, it's awful.
Exactly.

The place I work for set up an app not too long ago. Thankfully, it hasn't affected any of the regular employee's hours.
 

Titik

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,490
I walk dog sometimes and nothing but good experiences on Wag. Yeah the pay could be a little better but dog owners by and large are very well-behaved. The worst things that happens to me on there is I don't get a tip.That's it. Mo flashers, no weirdos, no self important assholes.
 

Titik

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,490
And I have no use for these delivery apps. Like at all. I have not seen any instances where I would order thru them. It's the epitome of laziness and self-importance that you'd pay extra for freaking taco bell or Subway.
 

TheAbsolution

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,389
Atlanta, GA
I drove for postmates for a bit. Never did more than 10 or so deliveries a day but if you wait in the right area and are ready to snatch the more profitable (pricey) orders you can make some bank. Once delivered 150 dollars worth of steak dinner 3 miles with a 40 min wait at the restaurant and got something like 20 bucks for the base and the customer tipped fifty so it was 70 dollars for less than an hours worth of work. It was awesome.
Same here except I started out doing Postmates and moved on to Uber & Lyft afterwards. The main issue for me was the consistency. Sure, every now and again, I'd make bank on an order like that but consistently getting those were always an issue haha.
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,675
People eating others food is wild crazy. I ordered from Uber eats a few times and the places I ordered from put stickers on the bag to prevent tampering. I assumed this was just standard.
 

krae_man

Master of Balan Wonderworld
Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,594
I read the 5 Time flasher in Booker T's voice ha ha.

How are errors in orders handled?

We used Uber Eats at work on the weekend and ordered 4 burger, fry and drink combos and one of the drinks was missing. The bag was 100% sealed up so it was clearly the restaurant that forgot the drink. I gave the driver a positive review and tip, gave the restaurant a negative review. Opened up the support thing and said "part of order missing" or whatever and I got a full refund for that combo immediately. Who is eating that cost? Is Uber eating it? Is the Resturant? The Driver?
 

SilverX

Member
Jan 21, 2018
12,990
5 times.....5!? By the second time I would have rang the door bell, placed the bag in front of the door, and ran off as soon as I saw the door opening. Did you think that the freak wouldn't show his wood during the third, fourth, and fifth times? I wouldn't put up with that.
 

Kunka Kid

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,020
And I have no use for these delivery apps. Like at all. I have not seen any instances where I would order thru them. It's the epitome of laziness and self-importance that you'd pay extra for freaking taco bell or Subway.

Eh, they're useful. A lot of times the delivery fee is free or a dollar or two, and it's nice to have all of your restaurant options on one app and not have to talk to anyone.

Especially when I'm on the subway home and can't talk, it's nice to place and order and have it arrive shortly after I get home.
 

Titik

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,490
Eh, they're useful. A lot of times the delivery fee is free or a dollar or two, and it's nice to have all of your restaurant options on one app and not have to talk to anyone.

Especially when I'm on the subway home and can't talk, it's nice to place and order and have it arrive shortly after I get home.
Don't you leave a tip? That alone should add something like $5 or so.
 

Surface of Me

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,207
All of these services are gonna be radically different in a few years. The truth is it should cost more than $4 to have a human being go pick up food and bring it to you in their own vehicle. It is completely unsustainable and it is built on the backs of people who need extra income the most.

I dunno where you are, but it is certainly already more than $4. Order anything $10 or under on UberEats and between the fees + tip it generally doubles the price of the food.
 

thewienke

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,929
The one time I opened my door and saw the driver still in the car sneaking a few fries into his mouth from my order, I knew I wouldn't be using any of these App delivery services again.

Feels like all delivery drivers passive aggressively hate their customers and a lot of people hate or don't appreciate their drivers and don't tip well. Feels like a depressing circle of passive aggressiveness that kinda reminds me of retail or buying a car.

It's a catch 22 where you feel like some drivers (online anyway) just want to tell you not to use the service if you won't tip extremely well (and cash only!) but then if everyone did that then there wouldn't be a service or nearly as many orders.
 

FeliciaFelix

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,778
Never had a bad experience ordering on apps, but its pricey. Anyway I always order from close to me so its cheaper and less time consuming.
 

Maximus

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,586
That was a pretty tame tell all. Sucks you got let go from the service, since it sounds like it was your main source of income.
 

Nida

Member
Aug 31, 2019
11,138
Everett, Washington
I guess I've gotten lucky and haven't run into any issues using Doordash and such.

I always try to meet people outside so they can get to their next delivery faster, and everyone has been polite.
 

Sincerest

Member
Jan 22, 2018
606
Feels like all delivery drivers passive aggressively hate their customers and a lot of people hate or don't appreciate their drivers and don't tip well. Feels like a depressing circle of passive aggressiveness that kinda reminds me of retail or buying a car.

It's a catch 22 where you feel like some drivers (online anyway) just want to tell you not to use the service if you won't tip extremely well (and cash only!) but then if everyone did that then there wouldn't be a service or nearly as many orders.
I don't think I can ever use these services again though. Mentally I think it fucked me up. I'll always wonder if my order is a little 'light.'

But you're right. I guess they do things like this because they normally don't get tipped well, so they make it up elsewhere.

I'll never forget that thread that was made here over a year ago, when a driver for Uber Eats admitted that he and a bunch of drivers don't even buy food because they always take a chicken nugget, some fries etc from every order, and the costumer is none the wiser. It put into perspective what happened to me.
 

DrScruffleton

Member
Oct 26, 2017
12,535
You all are ready to hear my stories? I hope so. I have been a part of this as a side gig and a full time job for a few months when I was between jobs. Did over... 2200? Deliveries and such

This is my last week because according to their driver specialist I had repeatedly tried to take advantage of their system taking a while on deliveries. Of course after pointing out that Subway as a company has been notorious for keeping their tablets off and it on average taking 30 minutes, it wasn't a valid enough excuse so I am no longer with them... It's whatever. I am sure I am to blame

It wasn't much, but the truth is, there are stories to tell. Unlike what you hear from other customers I'm going to share my experience as a driver as I believe somebody else wants did so feel free to take everything under consideration and I can speak a little on doordash but this will be focused on GrubHub today.

1. The Flasher: 5 times. 5 times, I delivered to this address and this horrible apartment apartment E4 somewhere in Rialto... I dreaded being there cuz I knew the guy was going to be there in his robe and accidentally drop it to expose his hard-on. Another strange thing was the first time this happened when he ordered with Doordash he was immediately banned from the service. It took five times before GrubHub did anything about this and in fact I had to threaten that I would go to the police if they did not do anything...

1.2. Dog crap tosser- yes I literally had crap thrown at me and took a picture for GrubHub this dude is still on the service... All because he didn't get his Winchell's donuts in time. :/

2. Other drivers: from the Jack in the Box crew who would open the bag in front of the employees and eat their fries, to the others who would throw their stuff into a small bag and then proceeded to chuck it into their car... Oh boy. There are stories to tell. I shall say, I became friends with one last year, would constantly see him at the local Shakey's.

3. Worst restaurants to order from: Hands down? Subway and Taco Bell. They will often Mark deliveries as ready, but then either turn off the tablet (Subway) or forget about the order in the case of Taco Bell. This causes delays, do expect it to take at least 45 minutes. I would highly recommend most people if you are going to use GrubHub go for the local places or any place that would be considered a traditional sit-down restaurant. Denny's, IHOP etc. They are very clear and prompt.

4. The truth about pay: don't believe the lies, any excuse that they can do to have you not get their "minimum wage" (at $11 an hour currently in California per their contract) they will use. App freezes? You weren't present, no minimum! Bad reception at a hospital? You missed an order! No minimum. Customer not at their address and you take over 20 minutes to deliver, including the time that you try to call them and customer service? You might still get the minimum but understand customer service might blame you for not delivering it still! Expect to wait 30 minutes at least to deliver for a no-show. I don't mind it honestly does give people a chance but I have seen other drivers just leave the food somewhere and leave... It's very common.

5. The huge region: I worked under the Inland Empire North map. To give you an idea of how big the region was and how far I could drive, it goes from Pomona to the West, down to Chino Hills South, East to North Riverside, and across to miss Rialto.

For those not in California, is about 20 some miles across.. like a big rectangle. But imagine, 15 people or so in charge of delivering your food, add in traffic, and it gets crazy! I can't tell you the number of times that I've been sent 30 minutes out of my way for something that needs to be delivered and dropped off in 5 minutes.

Don't get me wrong in those cases I will immediately contact both the restaurant and the customer but the truth is, there will be delays, and customers aren't going to be happy. and the funny thing is as soon as you pick up the order you will generally get an order for where you just were that needs to be delivered with the same restrictions... I was just there for goodness sake! *Looks at the time, order was ready when I got the first order!*


Anyways, just wanted to get this off my chest I do have another job coming up starting the early 2020 and hopefully that'll get me back as a stopgap before I go back into the medical field. Need to re up my CPR card for that and get an offer somewhere closer than 50 miles away.

All I wanted was extra money on the side and I swear it's been a struggle... In time, I hope I can do better, I must really. I will say it was better than Uber and Lyft c:

Thank you all for reading. I can answer questions later if you have any or want any other stories.

I drive for door dash and your number 4 point is happening like crazy, times where it doesn't even make sense. I've just delivered food to the persons door, walking back to my car. I swipe delivered and it says I have to be near the persons house to complete delivery. So I sit there trying to swipe and reset the app. End up having to contact them and takes about 20 extra minutes to complete an order. Like stuff completely out of your control will ding completion time
 

ChippyTurtle

Banned
Oct 13, 2018
4,773
Two months ago I used DoorDash and the person dropping my food off was smoking a cigarette. That was the last time I used any of these services.

is that a big deal? im not sure how that affects your food.

i only use it if im feeling really lazy, and only if the delivery fee is waived, and i always tip in-app a $1 or $2 plus change to even the total , and a cash tip of $5 cause i hate the concept of getting 3 dollars for driving so much for so little.


tbh im losing so much money but oh well. might switch back to restaurants with their own drivers honestly, i would save on the tip normally given in-app
 

piratepwnsninja

Lead Game Designer
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
3,811
Having dog shit thrown at you and having someone flash themselves is not too bad?

What kinda jobs you working dude?...

I worked retail for Staples, EBGames, and Blockbuster in the late 90s and early 00s. I just meant "not too bad" relative to things I've had happen to me, such as the cockroach-infested PS1 someone tried to trade in.

Your employer constantly trying to avoid paying you for doing your job doesn't sound bad to you?

This one is fair, and quite terrible. I just didn't take 'constantly' away from the post. It sounded like it happened a few times, which is still too many, but not like once a week. Maybe I read it wrong, but I took the "it's very common" as part of the preceding statement, not the entire section that discussed this.
 

DrScruffleton

Member
Oct 26, 2017
12,535
Sounds pretty horrible, after miles/gas/upkeep on vehcile, do you actually earn any real $$?

Also I know people claim they get confused when they think the 'delivery fee' is the same as the 'tip' Did that happen often?

can't speak for OP and GrubHub. But for door dash, we can decline anything we want. It's just Cherrypicking orders that's the best strategy now. I don't take anything less than $2/mile, nothing under $10 total payout, and nothing at all over 10 miles unless it's worth a lot. It's really not terrible once you know how to work your area. There's just some things that can get screwy, like the app glitching and stuff like that.

By doing a strategy like this, you are declining any non-tippers. You'd just miss out on cash tips, which isn't worth the risk. Back when I was starting I took a $3 trip that was like 4 miles, in hopes of a cash tip. Had to find an apartment and go up 5 stories of stairs. $0 tip.
 

SugarNoodles

Member
Nov 3, 2017
8,625
Portland, OR
This one is fair, and quite terrible. I just didn't take 'constantly' away from the post. It sounded like it happened a few times, which is still too many, but not like once a week. Maybe I read it wrong, but I took the "it's very common" as part of the preceding statement, not the entire section that discussed this.
My guess is that it's common simply because it's a very familiar business practice at this point in time.

It's like when an employee tries to report a workers rights violation and the department that processes this kind of stuff says "have you brought it up with your boss?"

The company at large is almost never held accountable for mistakes, because the most vulnerable and least powerful people are expected to advocate for themselves in cases where the company does something they shouldn't.

The company has no reason to respect the concerns of these people because they are not going to face consequences. On the off chance that someone actually takes them to court, they're probably going to settle out of court and it will have been entirely worth it for the company because they saved way more money than they paid out.

It's by design.