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Kain

Unshakable Resolve - One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
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The ending makes the movie
 

sir_crocodile

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Oct 25, 2017
23,486
I didn't remember any of the lyrics to any of the songs a few days after I watched it in the cinema, so as a musical I found it rather poor. As a film it was "fine", but nothing special.
 

julia crawford

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Oct 27, 2017
35,183
No moonlight tho

(actually i don't really know i haven't watched la la land, just making a joke about the oscars)
 
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dodo

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Oct 27, 2017
3,997
I don't love it as much as a lot of people do, but I do think the ending is great
 

Dogstar

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Oct 29, 2017
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I had absolutley zero interest in watching it, but one day it came on TV and I was sucked in. I'm not a fan of musicals at all, but this is a delight to watch and re-watch.
 

Idde

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Oct 27, 2017
3,660
Love it as well and seen it numerous times. As well as listened to the soundtrack a bunch. Definitely in my top ten movies. Gosling and Stone are just great together.
 

Zampano

The Fallen
Dec 3, 2017
2,235
I did not like the ending no sir. They should have ended up together.

I get that's the whole point but it upset me. I just want happiness.
 

Frodo

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
4,338
I didn't mind the movie so much, but I remember being really let down with the songs. Specially with the singing. As far as I remember, all songs apart from one are sung in that soft breathy way and they never pick up or go anywhere.

Personally, it wouldn't even make my top 20 of best musicals.
 

shaneo632

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Oct 29, 2017
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I really struggle with most movie musicals but this is a great film for people who don't like musicals.

Ironically most of my friends who like musicals didn't like it.
 

Nightwing123

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Oct 27, 2017
5,412
The ending is the only thing about it that was great the rest of the movie was pretty hollow. I overall thought it was an okay to good movie but it rightfully lost the Oscar to a far more deserving movie.
 

The Bear

Forest Animal
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
4,194
It was one of my favorite movies of 2016. Man, that ending made my cry the first time I saw it. I'm also a sucker for musicals, and this one delivers for sure.

That said, I liked Moonlight so much more that it isn't funny. La La Land is also not going to age gracefully in some aspects (especially how white the white guy tries to explain John Legend what Jazz is, hah).
 

Camwi

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
6,375
As someone who doesn't normally like musicals, I was shocked by how much I loved this film. The cinematography, music, acting, everything was just perfect.

And as good as Moonlight is, La La Land deserved Best Picture.
 

Aprikurt

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Oct 29, 2017
18,775
I just disliked the main characters so very, very much.

It wasn't Gosling and Stone, I like them. But man.
 

weekev

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Oct 25, 2017
6,213
I just disliked the main characters so very, very much.

It wasn't Gosling and Stone, I like them. But man.
This is where I was as well. I'm sure if you engaged with the characters it was an enjoyable film but i just found them both a little irritating and i couldn't get into it.
 

J-Skee

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Oct 25, 2017
11,102
I watched it twice in theaters. What an experience. 1st time was with me and my now wife. 2nd time I took my girl again, my brother, my mom, my dad, my grandma, and some family friends. Paid for them all. It was on the same day of the academy awards. Let's just say I got everyone rooting for it during the awards
Okay, I'm gonna ask.... what was the rollercoaster of emotions when it was announced as the "winner" for Best Picture?
 
Nov 21, 2019
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It's fun. I got the chance to watch a La La Land in Concert where they had an orchestra playing the score while the movie was playing. Great experience.
 

Grzi

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Oct 26, 2017
1,685
Hate coming into threads like these and being a party pooper but I also find the movie/main characters insufferable. I do love that solo piano piece that's currently tiktok viral tho. I get what they tried to do, the callbacks to the golden days, the whiteness, the hetero-ness. The colors of the film are beautiful tho, I used them to show off Dolby Vision...

I also saw the movie after Moonlight around when they came out tho too so... as far as love stories go, and after the awards debacle, feels like picked a side, lol.

I tried giving it another go just a few days ago actually and I couldn't get through it sorry. Glad y'all like it tho, I know it makes people really happy

I'm with you on this one.
I guess the main characters being self-absorbed and all about their career was kind of the point? But the movie failed to convey that point properly.

It's like they tried making a grandiose love story out of it, but that love story could have succeeded without a problem if it was real. They just gave up for no reason at all, at least it looked like that to me. Dunno, the movie is basically neoliberalism 101, abandon everyone/everything to follow your dream of being successful because money and fame are the most important things in the world. Literally no emotions whatsoever.

Moonlight is one of the best movies ever and it blows La La Land out of the water.
 

WrenchNinja

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Oct 25, 2017
18,734
Canada
I thought it was pretty disappointing and felt really phony toward the end.

Another Day of Sun is a pretty good dance number and song though.
 

Stove

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Oct 27, 2017
1,080
I really really liked the movie when it first came out. Especially loving musicals.

With each rewatch, I like it less.
 

Idde

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Oct 27, 2017
3,660
It was one of my favorite movies of 2016. Man, that ending made my cry the first time I saw it. I'm also a sucker for musicals, and this one delivers for sure.

That said, I liked Moonlight so much more that it isn't funny. La La Land is also not going to age gracefully in some aspects (especially how white the white guy tries to explain John Legend what Jazz is, hah).

That's very deserved criticism of Goslings character. But the movie also has Legends character (deservedly so) putting him in place by calling him a pain in the ass and telling him Jazz doesn't need saving, especially by him as such a traditionalist. Which Legends character goes on to prove by making his band hugely succesful.
 
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gozu

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Oct 27, 2017
10,316
America
It's cute but I felt It was unimpressive next to something like "The greatest showman" which came out the next year, was also nominated for an oscar (which coco won). TGS actually got me downloading the soundtrack immediately after.
 

Noppie

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Oct 27, 2017
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Too many lulls in the movie IMO, only really like ~60% of the movie. The ending and opening are amazing though.
 

Arkestry

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Oct 26, 2017
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Hate coming into threads like these and being a party pooper but I also find the movie/main characters insufferable. I do love that solo piano piece that's currently tiktok viral tho. I get what they tried to do, the callbacks to the golden days, the whiteness, the hetero-ness. The colors of the film are beautiful tho, I used them to show off Dolby Vision...

I also saw the movie after Moonlight around when they came out tho too so... as far as love stories go, and after the awards debacle, feels like picked a side, lol.

I tried giving it another go just a few days ago actually and I couldn't get through it sorry. Glad y'all like it tho, I know it makes people really happy

Hah, yeah, I definitely think there's an element of this. It's hard to watch Moonlight and not think of them as competitive in some regard, and obviously Moonlight is the far superior film.

Also La La Land is easily Chazelle's worst project. Whiplash, First Man and the Eddy are all far superior.
 

BassForever

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Oct 25, 2017
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My family was disappointed in it, and we love musical movies. It just didn't click with us. I liked it the most of my family and just didn't love it as much as I hoped.
 

The Bear

Forest Animal
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Oct 25, 2017
4,194
That's very deserved criticism of Goslings character. But the movie also has Legends character (deservedly so) putting him in place by calling him a pain in the ass and telling him Jazz doesn't need saving, especially by him as such a traditionalist. Which Legends character goes on to prove by making his band hugely succesful.

While you are correct, the film very clearly frames Gosling being right and Legend being wrong/a sellout.
 

Reizzz

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Jun 19, 2019
1,813
Loved it. I also love the combo of Emma Stone and Ryan Gosling.

Remember when the biggest drama about it was Gosling's arm on the poster?(tap scene)
 

King Kingo

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Dec 3, 2019
7,656
I absolutely loved the movie, the soundtrack was incredible and it was just a visual treat with amazing character dynamics between Ryan and Emma.
 

Idde

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Oct 27, 2017
3,660
While you are correct, the film very clearly frames Gosling being right and Legend being wrong/a sellout.

Euh, I wouldn't say 'very clearly'. Mostly, perhaps? Gosling and Stone are the main characters so that automatically makes them seem 'right'. But Goslings character got fired several times because he was too stubborn to just play 'the damn music' in the restaurant. Stone had to talk him out of naming his future jazz cafe Chicken on a stick, and not doing it in the old jazz bar I forgot the name of. It's mentioned several times how his stubbornness and general pain in the ass-ness and desire to 'save jazz' isn't working. Gosling even admits to Legend that he is in fact a pain in the ass. I agree that the movie could've spent more time on the fact that Legend doing his thing with the band was great, it just wasn't what Gosling wanted. And in the end Gosling came around from his whole 'saving jazz' sing by remarking how it was great that his bar Seb's was doing 'just okay'.

Chazelle plays a bit with the fact that his main characters aren't 'right', even though you mostly see their point of view. Tellers behavior in Whiplash definitely wasn't healthy. And though he was an ass to the girl he met, and to his family, they really weren't wrong. Tellers character was just being an obsessed, egotistical ass who we sort of come to see as right because he's the main character. The same thing goes for Gosling's character. I just also think he's very charismatic, and despite being an ass very likable. And he grows a bit during the movie.

But yeah, I don't entirely disagree with you, and the fact a lot of people full out agree with you shows you definitely have a point.

I just realized I said ass a lot in this post. Ah well. Ass.
 

J_Viper

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Oct 25, 2017
25,716
For some reason, I have been avoiding this for years, despite being a huge fan of Goose and Chazelle.

I really can't deal with musicals at all.
 

meowdi gras

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Feb 24, 2018
12,621
It was pretty good, but didn't hold up that well to a rewatch for me. Don't really have a desire to revisit it again.
 

Ryuelli

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Oct 26, 2017
15,209
It's one of my favorite films of the decade. It's not a genre I typically enjoy, but it enthralled me. It's absolutely gorgeous in every way possible.

Compared to Whiplash, I liked La La Land a lot more.
 

Corncob

Prophet of Truth
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
4,575
UK
It's a fun time but I don't think Chazelle will ever top Whiplash. It's his masterpiece.
 

Deleted member 69501

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abandon everyone/everything to follow your dream of being successful because money and fame are the most important things in the world.


Oof you're rather off the mark on this one. It's about how following your passions can come at a price. In this case the price was the relationship.

On a side note, I kinda like how souls kinda asks a similar question and gets to a different answer.
 

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It's cute but I felt It was unimpressive next to something like "The greatest showman" which came out the next year, was also nominated for an oscar (which coco won). TGS actually got me downloading the soundtrack immediately after.



Oofffff no no no no, the greatest showman was average at best. Admittedly, alot of my friends would agree with you though
 

Sasliquid

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Oct 25, 2017
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As this thread proves the main problem with La La Land is that it will always be compared to Moonlight, and it ain't winning that fight. It's interesting how the two films are total opposites in so many ways.