While Geralt spends days hunting down a single monster and then often has to prep to even be able to win, Kratos can tear through three of the same monsters in minutes. There's no contest here.
Ah ok.Normally yes, Cory said Olympian gods are more of politicians while Norse gods are complete brutes and most of them are gods of war besides being gods of other departments.
Kratos would win.
However let me make a case for Geralt: the only chance he has would be if he manages to hit Kratos with Axii.
For those not in the know Axii is a hypnotic spell which can calm enemies, or more generally effect their mind.
For the sake of argument let's say Kratos' godhood does not give him a blanket immunity to this power. This is plausible - as mind tricks have been employed against Kratos to great effect.
Kratos' power is greatly enhanced by anger so this calming spell is going to limit him greatly. We see in gameplay at this level Kratos still requires numerous hits to defeat lessser Greek monsters which Geralt is probably comparable to in terms of endurance.
It's worth noting Kratos' combat style is based on using this raw strength. He whips chains around and savagely swings his axe. If the spell effects him enough he has to switch to a more skill based combat style - Geralt may stand a small chance.
Even without his strength Kratos is a skilled technical fighter - but as we see in God of War's stranger boss fight when taken by surprise he quickly ends up on the back foot as the quicker opponent gets the best of him.
Geralt and Kratos are relatively equally trained at technical fighting - but Geralt might have a slight edge with his Witcher reactions. Geralt might get one shot, and assuming he has a weapon that can do the deed, could potentially take Kratos by surprise and decapitate his head. Anything less would mean a quick death for Geralt.
At the point IF Geralt already knew what he was dealing with he might be able to perform a ritual to lay Kratos body to final rest, to stop him climbing out of hell for revenge.
There are a lot of ifs, buts and maybes there - but that's the one shot Geralt has.
But like I said, I do think Kratos is one of the top 10 most powerful game characters. But I don't think he'd make the top 5.
I wasn't thinking of JRPGs, but was just thinking of action games. But if we include JRPGs, then I don't think Kratos would make the top 10, though I think he would still make the top 50.Are we counting Jrpgs? I mean, he average post game FF party kill galactic gods/entities easily.
And if we count more niche titles like Disgaea (which is DBZ levels of power)... I don't think Kratos would be in a top 100.
I wasn't thinking of JRPGs, but was just thinking of action games. But if we include JRPGs, then I don't think Kratos would make the top 10, though I think he would still make the top 50.
The question should have been : who can wins in a fight against Kratos
15 pages laters, we would have a thread closed with the only answer possible : Kirby.
I'll tell which one is more fun to play and is more interesting....Geralt.....precisely because he is not as powerful.
I know exactly which points you are refering too because I know enough of Norse mythology too, but I think what GOW is doing is kinda great tbh, they are not replicating the exact events which will make the whole GOW plot literraly expectable and not surprising at all. Greek folks said the same about GOW Greece but I thnik what they are doing with Norse settings is much much betetr, in fact they are creating their own timeline and events based on the Norse events which is very interesting tbh.
Anyway, we don't rule out that GOW is the closest and most grounded depecition of real norse mythlogy compared to any otehr game or media.
Honestly We need to establish a rule, where, unless character you propose can destroy at least a couple universes just by turning their shoulder a little too fast, tehy don't belong anywhere near top50 strongest characters in video games, let alone top 10 or top 5. Like come on, the actual scale is so incomprehensibly above norse or olympian gods powerlevel, they don't belong in top 100.
(Not my point, but yeah, from a pure gameplay perspective, yes, this is correct).I will give witcher 3 the story and overall world being more interesting. But seriously Geralt being more fun to play with those controls and combat mechanics is highly questionable and arguable vs 2018 God of War.
But the question really isn't about from a pure gameplay perspective, is it? There is nothing Kratos does that is somehow greater than Geralt really. Its just that the game asks the player to take down a god rather than a vampire.
I know what you are saying. Im just saying from an overall gameplay perspective, the two aren't that different. (As in many other characters).He pushes a bridge that weights as much as multiple skyrscrapers with his bare hands? I'd say that counts as greater than anything Geralt did. Like you can argue comparative scale of enemies they fight is not that different outside of informed attributes, but that bridge I'd say is impossibly large even on intuitive level.
You're not serious are you? I think Dante may be the only Video Game Protag that could stand a chance against Kratos.....Poor Gearlt with his bad gameplay mechanics.
Nah plenty of Final Fantasy protagonist kill Kratos like nothing
One on One? How many FF Protags have actually Solo'd Gods before? Multiple ones at that?
Demonbane would body both tho, with rest of their universes at the same time.
Fuck, a full sized Demonbane wouldn't even make it a fight. I don't think Kratos or Kirby can even look at something so large and be able to comprehend it. Remember... so large, it ascended beyond multiverse... imagine being bigger than infinite universes stacked together.
A good amount of them?
Kratos tops out at Continent level of strength and destructive capability, durability and sub relativistic in speed.
Noctis one of the weaker ends of protags: Multi-Continent to life wiper with durability in the same range and can match Kratos's speed along with having much better tools thanks to his ring including Diminsinal BFR, Intangability, etc.
Squall: Galaxy level destructive capability and durability along with massively faster then light along with better tools including pretty good time manipulation.
Cloud: Solar System levels of destruction and durability again massively faster then light and tools like: Super strength, speed, durability, magic, master swordsman, summoning, flight and levitation, potentially possesses the likes of elemental manipulation (of the fire, lightning, ice, water, wind, and earth variety), healing and regeneration (mid-low), poison manipulation (in the form of Bad Breath and Bio), time manipulation (in the forms of Haste, Slow, and Stop), barrier creation (in the form of Barrier, Big Guard, MBarrier, Reflect, Shield, and Wall), shapeshifting (in the form of Bad Breath, Frog Song, Mini, and Toad), petrification (in the form of Break), absorption (in the form of Magic Hammer), gravity manipulation (in the form of Demi and Laser), soul manipulation (in the form of Death), energy blasts (in the form of Flare, Matra Magic, Shadow Flare, and Ultima), telekinesis (in the form of Comet), mind manipulation (in the form of Berserk and Confuse), teleportation (in the form of the Escape and Remove), able to induce silence, able to induce sleep.
Tidus: Moon level durability and destructive power along with being able to move faster then light
Demonbane would body both tho, with rest of their universes at the same time.
Fuck, a full sized Demonbane wouldn't even make it a fight. I don't think Kratos or Kirby can even look at something so large and be able to comprehend it. Remember... so large, it ascended beyond multiverse... imagine being bigger than infinite universes stacked together.
Should you ever bring a character into a "what if" fight whose entire writing is literally the "infinity + 2" everyone used to say a kid when they lost to someone who said infinity?
Depends. If it's demonbane, yes. Cuz Demonbane is so awfully stupid, I find it funny.
Is this a parody post? I could never tell with this forum. I feel like I should go buy some rare Yugioh cards or something after reading this.A good amount of them?
Kratos tops out at Continent level of strength and destructive capability, durability and sub relativistic in speed.
Noctis one of the weaker ends of protags: Multi-Continent to life wiper with durability in the same range and can match Kratos's speed along with having much better tools thanks to his ring including Diminsinal BFR, Intangability, etc.
Squall: Galaxy level destructive capability and durability along with massively faster then light along with better tools including pretty good time manipulation.
Cloud: Solar System levels of destruction and durability again massively faster then light and tools like: Super strength, speed, durability, magic, master swordsman, summoning, flight and levitation, potentially possesses the likes of elemental manipulation (of the fire, lightning, ice, water, wind, and earth variety), healing and regeneration (mid-low), poison manipulation (in the form of Bad Breath and Bio), time manipulation (in the forms of Haste, Slow, and Stop), barrier creation (in the form of Barrier, Big Guard, MBarrier, Reflect, Shield, and Wall), shapeshifting (in the form of Bad Breath, Frog Song, Mini, and Toad), petrification (in the form of Break), absorption (in the form of Magic Hammer), gravity manipulation (in the form of Demi and Laser), soul manipulation (in the form of Death), energy blasts (in the form of Flare, Matra Magic, Shadow Flare, and Ultima), telekinesis (in the form of Comet), mind manipulation (in the form of Berserk and Confuse), teleportation (in the form of the Escape and Remove), able to induce silence, able to induce sleep.
Tidus: Moon level durability and destructive power along with being able to move faster then light
One on One? How many FF Protags have actually Solo'd Gods before? Multiple ones at that?
Is this a parody post? I could never tell with this forum. I feel like I should go buy some rare Yugioh cards or something after reading this.
There's also only 1 conclusion Geralt would come to with prep time too and it'd be not to fight him at all. Like he does with higher Vampires, because they are just a too powerful for a single Witcher and unkillable by them on top.Kratos hands down.
This feels like a Superman vs Batman statement of if Batman had time to prepare. But even then Geralt is excellent of what he does best, being a Witcher. As Kratos is excellent at being a God Slayer.
Really? Doom Guy can out run lasers now?Crushed his organs how?
Doom Guy can outrun him pretty easily. Anything MC does can be dodged. Doom guy can run as fast as a car.
No, but Kratos certainly doesn't have any speed feats comparable to fighting an actual lightning god.
No, it isn't. It's literally to vague to calculate. It might sound cool and all, and even gives him some really good determination and endurance. But it's Greek Mythology. There are tons of people who've escaped the afterlife in badass ways.On the contrary, "he literally clawed his way out of the afterlife" is a damn good feat.
So what if Dante beat Mundus? That doesn't mean Mundus can't create a universe. If anything, Dante beating him shows that Dante is stronger than universe making.You are kinda leaving stuff out bud. So.. mundus can create a whole universe (a testament to his strength, right?) But goes on to get beat by Dante in smup battle? Yo.. didn't mundus get beat twice in the same game?
But this what people don't understand. Kratos is smart and excel's in the arts of war and his execution in battle strategies. And he doesn't get tired.. at all. And your boy Dante is not up for fighting at full strength for an eternity.
1. That's Doom Slayer.Except Doom guy runs much faster than 28. He can run over 50 mph without the armor he got in the new Doom and without pushing himsel, as he can even rub forever. Not only that, he can survive multiple rockets and plenty of punishment without dying. He kicked hells ass so many times that they even opened a door out of hell just so he could leave them alone. Then he returned to hell and spent ages without rest killing them over and over. All thst without the armor he got later on.
Then when you factor in the praetor suit and the orbs he gets much more powerful. Haste for example can double his speed (not just running but even his actions like reloading and shooting).
In the next game he will even face godss so it is safe to say Master Cheif would get his ass kicked pretty badly by Doom Guy.
Lol no, Hermes was not even close to the speed of light. He got hit by a catapult once if I remember correctly.Kratos beat god who can almost move at speed of light. Dante can also move almost at speed of light.
A good amount of them?
Kratos tops out at Continent level of strength and destructive capability, durability and sub relativistic in speed.
Noctis one of the weaker ends of protags: Multi-Continent to life wiper with durability in the same range and can match Kratos's speed along with having much better tools thanks to his ring including Diminsinal BFR, Intangability, etc.
Squall: Galaxy level destructive capability and durability along with massively faster then light along with better tools including pretty good time manipulation.
Cloud: Solar System levels of destruction and durability again massively faster then light and tools like: Super strength, speed, durability, magic, master swordsman, summoning, flight and levitation, potentially possesses the likes of elemental manipulation (of the fire, lightning, ice, water, wind, and earth variety), healing and regeneration (mid-low), poison manipulation (in the form of Bad Breath and Bio), time manipulation (in the forms of Haste, Slow, and Stop), barrier creation (in the form of Barrier, Big Guard, MBarrier, Reflect, Shield, and Wall), shapeshifting (in the form of Bad Breath, Frog Song, Mini, and Toad), petrification (in the form of Break), absorption (in the form of Magic Hammer), gravity manipulation (in the form of Demi and Laser), soul manipulation (in the form of Death), energy blasts (in the form of Flare, Matra Magic, Shadow Flare, and Ultima), telekinesis (in the form of Comet), mind manipulation (in the form of Berserk and Confuse), teleportation (in the form of the Escape and Remove), able to induce silence, able to induce sleep.
Tidus: Moon level durability and destructive power along with being able to move faster then light
It's pretty much just a copy paste from Vs. Battles Wiki.Is this a parody post? I could never tell with this forum. I feel like I should go buy some rare Yugioh cards or something after reading this.
This sentence confuses me. Do you mean he doesn't have speed feats beyond those he had while fighting a lightning god? Because he's done that quite a bit. He can dodge and parry lightning, not to mention he killed Zeus, an actual lightning god.No, but Kratos certainly doesn't have any speed feats comparable to fighting an actual lightning god.
It's a running theme of his character, with it happening at least three times in the original games, if not more. It actually got to the point that he's done it in other afterlives as well. He willingly entered and fought out of Hel twice in the same day. "Repeatedly fought his way out of afterlives" is an incalculable feat, for certain, but it is a feat.No, it isn't. It's literally to vague to calculate. It might sound cool and all, and even gives him some really good determination and endurance. But it's Greek Mythology. There are tons of people who've escaped the afterlife in badass ways.
Yeah, but what about Superman?Not really an equal fight. Kratos for sure. Goku would take them both, though.