Not the people posting that sentiment. It's a non sequitur.
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[Kotaku] The Pokemon Company clarifies the structure of Pokemon Legends: Arceus (Not Open World, more like Monster Hunter)
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You might be right. And as two self-respecting connoisseurs of adequate gaming software that wouldn't be seen dead arguing about an un-released game which we both haven't played yet surely we should be joining them.
I have very little interest in this game but the statement in the Kotaku's article implies more about the mission flow than the map design. It could still be one or multiple large open areas. Maybe I'm not acquainted enough with MH though.
Exploration looks absolutely dreadful in the trailers anyway.
Exploration looks absolutely dreadful in the trailers anyway.
Maybe a person shouldn't be downplaying another game if that's the case which the person that you spoke about earlier did.
My point is that there's a reason why these games sell well.
People can still discuss what they'd hope the game would be, and contextualize the technical aspects with this new info.
Like "why do MHR look ten times better than the biggest game on the platform if they have similar scope"?
I personally don't have any issues with the structure of the game, open world or more monster hunter like, and I applaud Gamefreak for trying something new. I'm genuinely excited to see how this shake up pans out.
But I'm still really put off by the games visuals, it's just so damn ugly and I don't understand why. Textures, animation, frame rate and just general style. Nothing is aesthetically pleasing.
But I'm still really put off by the games visuals, it's just so damn ugly and I don't understand why. Textures, animation, frame rate and just general style. Nothing is aesthetically pleasing.
So why did you not point it out earlier.
It's just incredible how "painfully obvious" it is, yet none of the people espousing that thought to point it out.
Are you all just lying about it being obvious, or do you enjoy seeing people disappointed later?
That is a fallacy.
Implying tons of people buying Pokémon means that Pokemon is great or doesnt matter Pokémon is bad because that will sell a lot nonetheless xd
Yes?
Because it was presented/marketed as exactly that. The BOTW allusions were kinda shameless. Even more so shameless as it turns out to be quite different from BOTW afterall.
With you on that. Feels like an unfinished project when you look at the visuals. Hoping they make more changes before the release.
But we don't really know yet the size of the Pokemon zones compared to MHR. We don't have context to contextualize.
This is basically where I'm at too. I don't mind what kind of open world (or not) format it's going with by this point. But I don't think it looks too great and it doesn't seem to be running well. And none of the trailers have made a good case for the exploration looking worthwhile or interesting at all beyond scouting for Pokemon spawns. I'd obviously love to be proven wrong and have these aspects come together, though. Still a few months left, I suppose.
I know right .
"Here's Gamespot's final verdict on Metroid Dread….
+ Atmospheric and moody environment
+ Samus is back! Girl power!
- Did you know Pokémon is the largest most successful media franchise in the world? There isn't really any other excuse the next game in that series doesn't have a budget that the dev team of this game would kill for. They could have used it for some final polish"
Which I am saying is a non sequitur when discussing the format and performance of the game
it's definitely a bummer that this isn't gonna be botw Pokémon like so many of us hoped, but I do think the areas we can explore are likely to be fairly large - I mean, it certainly looks like there's quite some distance you can travel in the environments we see in the trailers. hopefully the barriers are environmental and not just some random invisible wall
I still stand by this being a massive leap forward for the franchise, and admittedly am not sold on the graphical complaints. IMO, they're perfectly poised to make the full open world game we wanted next time
I still stand by this being a massive leap forward for the franchise, and admittedly am not sold on the graphical complaints. IMO, they're perfectly poised to make the full open world game we wanted next time
Let's see how this pans out. MonHun works for me because the combat is sublime and the co-op aspect. At least the map looks huge and traversal seems fun.
If it was a one hit wonder it would have already die like Yo-Kai Watch.
This is disappointing. Also people saying how it was so obvious its not open world the original era thread reveal of 69 pages- https://www.resetera.com/threads/po...itch-early-2022-open-world-turn-based.385400/
Everybody thought it was open world. Their marketing was such.
Poster -but mon hun game even after having lesser monsters has got a lot more going on with each of them whether it be animations, movement, environment interaction yet see the result.
You- no.
Lol whats the point of arguing then when thats all you can offer? In no world do pokemon games are more complex than mon hun. The difference is huge and shows capcoms technical prowess.
Everybody thought it was open world. Their marketing was such.
You basically went pokemon games has a bunch of them so dont forget the scope and complexity.
Poster -but mon hun game even after having lesser monsters has got a lot more going on with each of them whether it be animations, movement, environment interaction yet see the result.
You- no.
Lol whats the point of arguing then when thats all you can offer? In no world do pokemon games are more complex than mon hun. The difference is huge and shows capcoms technical prowess.
That's not it. I think Nintendo made an implied promise about the game being similar to Breath of the Wild with that first trailer. People are just disappointed that the game isn't going to be that. I'm disappointed too. That very first trailer looked awesome, but the more I learn about the game the more I feel I probably won't play it.
Doesn't make a difference to me, still getting it day one since it's the first time they've put any effort in since B2W2
Looking at these box arts alone I'm baffled as to how anyone could possibly think these two games had the same structure. I mean, is it not clear that one has relatively small segmented levels and the other is a complete open world? No, I won't say which one is which because it should be blindingly obvious to anyone.
Nah, but seriously. It should have been as clear as day that this wasn't an open world when Game Freak started sharing screenshots like this:
...which are 100%, entirely different to screenshots like this:
To me it's like seeing a screenshot for New Super Mario Bros. and being disappointed when it turns out that it's not actually a 3D Mario game. Entirely your fault tbh.
Yeah, kinda strange to see a lot of people here acting like they knew it wasn't open world when you have a 69 pages reveal thread full of "OMG OPEN WORLD POKEMON , BREATH OF THE POKEMON"
But we don't know the size of the zones.
Looking at these box arts alone I'm baffled as to how anyone could possibly think these two games had the same structure. I mean, is it not clear that one has relatively small segmented levels and the other is a complete open world? No, I won't say which one is which because it should be blindingly obvious to anyone.
It's almost as if people realized once they showed the in-game map and not from the boxart.
Looking at these box arts alone I'm baffled as to how anyone could possibly think these two games had the same structure. I mean, is it not clear that one has relatively small segmented levels and the other is a complete open world? No, I won't say which one is which because it should be blindingly obvious to anyone.
The structure of the game was clear when they did their last big trailer and infodump on the website. I tried telling people it was clearly akin to monster hunter but a lot didn't want to hear it lol. In fairness, the marketing sure was trying to cover it up as much as possible and make it look open world unless you really looked close at what the website was saying.
It's probably for the better that it's not open world. But yeah, they played a lot with the expectations of their fans by showing the first trailer the way they did.
I hope it turns out fine in the end.
You made a disingenuous statement and then called it incredibly disingenuous when a poster politely pointed out that there is a big delta between the complexity and work that goes into MonHun monsters and Pokemon.
Maybe you should cool down a bit.
I hope it turns out fine in the end.
You made a disingenuous statement and then called it incredibly disingenuous when a poster politely pointed out that there is a big delta between the complexity and work that goes into MonHun monsters and Pokemon.
Maybe you should cool down a bit.
Strange, but whatever. My biggest turn-off is still how barren and dull the environments seem to be. I'm all for smaller environments if the size isn't justified.
And transform mainline Pokemon into a predatory gacha? Nah, thank you.
So let me get this straight, this game and MonHun are both on the same system, neither are fully open world, one was developed in the past, and yet MonHun still looks objectively better visually. What is the excuse for Gamefreak when MonHun exist on switch and looks visually superior?
No, you just talked about a gacha made by a company famous for making gacha.
You can remove the gacha part from Genshin Impact and still have a really good open world game, you know ?
And yet they have decided to make a game based on taking advantage of people's addictions.
Pocket Card Jockey and Drill Dozer would like a word with you, Harmoknight kinda sorta as well
Yeah, I guess bad graphics is something much more unforgivable than taking advantage of people through aggressive monetization schemes.
I'd much rather have Gamefreak over MiHoYo. One of the cooler parts of Sword and Shield was the diversity of the characters in the world. They can still do better, but they are infinitely better than Genshin.