I doubt it.
I doubt it.
Ok that's incredibly toxic. My wife would not be pleased.I remember hearing about anecdotes about how they encouraged you to stay and play games with your fellow developers instead of going home to your family and etc.
I wonder (with heavy doubt) if any Rioters on Era would like to share their thoughts on this?
Please share. It's always important to have all voices in play, in any circunstances. (And It would make for a much healthier discussion, I believe)I'd share my thoughts on much from this thread but frankly I'm concerned by the lynch mob mentality that's being demonstrated here.
I'd share my thoughts on much from this thread but frankly I'm concerned by the lynch mob mentality that's being demonstrated here.
Echoing fepeinado here. I would also like to hear more comments from current/former Riot staff about their time there and opinions on the ongoing issues facing the company. It's always better to have more information to form opinions with.Please share. It's always important to have all voices in play, in any circunstances. (And It would make for a much healthier discussion, I believe)
Same. It's actually kind of scary/sad how many people just want to burn down a game developer...I'd share my thoughts on much from this thread but frankly I'm concerned by the lynch mob mentality that's being demonstrated here.
Same. It's actually kind of scary/sad how many people just want to burn down a game developer...
Same. It's actually kind of scary/sad how many people just want to burn down a game developer...
Same. It's actually kind of scary/sad how many people just want to burn down a game developer...
I'd share my thoughts on much from this thread but frankly I'm concerned by the lynch mob mentality that's being demonstrated here.
No one wants to "burn down a game developer". That's a hilariously ridiculous take.Same. It's actually kind of scary/sad how many people just want to burn down a game developer...
Same. It's actually kind of scary/sad how many people just want to burn down a game developer...
No one wants to "burn down a game developer". That's a hilariously ridiculous take.
Hell yes, burn it down. And screw some of my friends who work at Riot to refuse to acknowledge the shit going on in their company.
They 100% deserve this for refusing to address and solve these issues internally and instead decied to sweep them all under the rug.
Completely deserved, the company's made multiple promises to improve things and they haven't done shit. No results.
.. where it got ridiculous was the expectation that you would play for absurd hours a day (like 10 or so)...
I remember hearing about anecdotes about how they encouraged you to stay and play games with your fellow developers instead of going home to your family and etc.
.. It is probably an anecdote from QA at Riot. I have heard some wild shit from that department...
Sure Flare; and you've certainly also not demonstrated the lynch mob mentality I refer to multiple times already in this thread alone. The automatic response to assume the worst of a given game studio in scenarios like these and eagerness to extend the spicy narratives continues to surprise me.
Assumptions just like these are extremely damaging, baseless and continue to spin a narrative that simply isn't true.
Don't believe everything you read, especially on gamer forums like these. I find statements like these especially ridiculous, and they go to show how eager folks are to believe the narrative they're after.
What's your opinion on the large employee walk out and the rather scummy arbitration process?
Agree with everything you said here. It sucks and I really hope folks can get less hyperbolic in these types of conversations here. :/Sure Flare; and you've certainly also not demonstrated the lynch mob mentality I refer to multiple times already in this thread alone. The automatic response to assume the worst of a given game studio in scenarios like these and eagerness to extend the spicy narratives continues to surprise me.
Assumptions just like these are extremely damaging, baseless and continue to spin a narrative that simply isn't true.
Don't believe everything you read, especially on gamer forums like these. I find statements like these especially ridiculous, and they go to show how eager folks are to believe the narrative they're after.
The whole place sounds like a toxic "gamerbro" environment even compared to other studios with bad corporate cultures.
Sure Flare; and you've certainly also not demonstrated the lynch mob mentality I refer to multiple times already in this thread alone. The automatic response to assume the worst of a given game studio in scenarios like these and eagerness to extend the spicy narratives continues to surprise me.
Watched the video detailing the Mordekaiser re-work the other day, and all the devs shown in that video look like a literal manifestation of the word gamerbro, like they literally looked like out of a movie frathouse, i know i shouldn't judge their looks, but damn if they didn't just have the look that suggests all the allegations were true.
Watched the video detailing the Mordekaiser re-work the other day, and all the devs shown in that video look like a literal manifestation of the word gamerbro, like they literally looked like out of a movie frathouse, i know i shouldn't judge their looks, but damn if they didn't just have the look that suggests all the allegations were true.
Don't believe everything you read, especially on gamer forums like these.
You're right, you shouldn't judge people based on their looks.Watched the video detailing the Mordekaiser re-work the other day, and all the devs shown in that video look like a literal manifestation of the word gamerbro, like they literally looked like out of a movie frathouse, i know i shouldn't judge their looks, but damn if they didn't just have the look that suggests all the allegations were true.
Fuck off with this shit, lol.
Sure Flare; and you've certainly also not demonstrated the lynch mob mentality I refer to multiple times already in this thread alone. The automatic response to assume the worst of a given game studio in scenarios like these and eagerness to extend the spicy narratives continues to surprise me.
This post is gross.Watched the video detailing the Mordekaiser re-work the other day, and all the devs shown in that video look like a literal manifestation of the word gamerbro, like they literally looked like out of a movie frathouse, i know i shouldn't judge their looks, but damn if they didn't just have the look that suggests all the allegations were true.
I'd share my thoughts on much from this thread but frankly I'm concerned by the lynch mob mentality that's being demonstrated here.
cmon this is a silly take, lolWatched the video detailing the Mordekaiser re-work the other day, and all the devs shown in that video look like a literal manifestation of the word gamerbro, like they literally looked like out of a movie frathouse, i know i shouldn't judge their looks, but damn if they didn't just have the look that suggests all the allegations were true.
Former Female Riot Employee said:remember that time we didn't hire a man as a writer's assistant at Riot because a higher-up said "no guy wants 'assistant' in his title" so they hired him into a better role?
it was a very cool time, hearing that as a woman and a writer's assistant
If you're a riot employee, I don't think you should be posting in this thread.
Companies have PR people for that. So coming in, with a verified mark explicitly showing you're part of the company and arguing with your target audience/potential customers...I really wouldn't recommend it.
Anywho, I wanted to share this tweet I saw because it seemed relevant:
What's your opinion on the large employee walk out and the rather scummy arbitration process?
And the expose on the sexual harassment that went on, which included higher up Riot leadership, a prominent harasser whose only punishment was losing a couple months pay.
Watched the video detailing the Mordekaiser re-work the other day, and all the devs shown in that video look like a literal manifestation of the word gamerbro, like they literally looked like out of a movie frathouse, i know i shouldn't judge their looks, but damn if they didn't just have the look that suggests all the allegations were true.
Right, and you are no better than my irl buddy who works there by posting here like this. For the record I'm not insinuating anything about people at Riot but there is obviously a cultural/managerial problem that needs to be addressed. To not acknowledge that is rather gross.
It's because they literally do hire from their own community.
Imagine thinking you're some victim of lynch mob mentality while being unwilling to engage with people that have friends, family, or themselves have that have been abused or discriminated in workplaces because you think people will attack you for working at a company. Riot has a problem, and those problems should be resolved from within. It shouldn't have to come to a State investigating the company for gender discrimination.
If you're a riot employee, I don't think you should be posting in this thread.
Companies have PR people for that. So coming in, with a verified mark explicitly showing you're part of the company and arguing with your target audience/potential customers...I really wouldn't recommend it.
Anywho, I wanted to share this tweet I saw...
It's a double edged sword. On one hand its great to stand alongside the employees that are involved in them, alongside other companies that recently went through this such as Google and Microsoft and advocate for the policy change around them. On the other hand there are, and were presented, other avenues that could have been taken that doesn't bring further media attention and create opportunities for the walkouts intention to be taken out of context or misconstrued to escalate various negative narratives.
It seems far too common that individuals paint a picture of companies like Riot being operated by an evil isolated dictatorship, ensuing to a fight of good vs evil. The reality is that Riot is the individuals from bottom to top, and many of those supporting, advocating and participating in the walkout (and the various efforts across the company to these ends) are those in leadership positions throughout the company. The us vs them mentality is hyperbolic and ill informed.
Edit: I also think you're not helping yourself much by saying not to trust random individuals and their stories on some forum which also applies to you as much as anyone else.
But wasn't the media attention the exact reason that Riot is even getting its act together or attempting to? I feel its a bit cheap to talk about other avenues when apparently there have been serious issues for years now. It sounds like those other avenues weren't exactly doing what they needed to do by the employees to the point that over 100 were basically left with the radical move to walk out and risk their jobs, friendships and entire careers.
You point out individuals but we're talking far more than a couple people here or there over a short time frame. If anything many of the reports we've heard is that the issue isn't just with the higher ups but the culture in general. I'm not trying to pin you down and get you with a gotcha but it really feels like you're trying to frame the narrative in a way that doesn't really seem all that genuine.
Edit: I also think you're not helping yourself much by saying not to trust random individuals and their stories on some forum which also applies to you as much as anyone else.
I highly recommend people to check this out. A coworker of mine from Riot actually speaking about whats happening there from the ground, and what you can do to help.
Edit: I work at riot, but I'm not verified yet but just want to state it.
Pressed by PCGamesInsider.biz as to whether Riot had been complying but not to the full degree DFEH had hoped for, or have the company had been holding up the investigation altogether, the Department of Fair Employment and Housing sent over the below statement:
"In the gender discrimination investigation, Riot Games has withheld critical information from the DFEH that is necessary to determine whether pay discrimination exists at the company.
"Riot Games has withheld this critical information from the government at the same time it has issued a public diversity and inclusion commitment on its website that the company will 'finish our full pay equity analysis' by July 2019."