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Kotaku: PS5 Controllers Are Drifting, And The Repairs Are A Hassle
- Thread starter foxuzamaki
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What? No way. My DS3 was still working and I've put thousands if not tens of thousand of hours onto it. Defective controllers might have issues faster, but the average controller should be lasting thousands of hours of use.
And my Dualshock 4 is still fine after 5 years of heavy usage. It's easily my most durable controller ever.
This could happen to any controller, after any amount of time. I've had controllers drift after a week and some that haven't drifted yet.
Sorry it's happening to folks.
Sorry it's happening to folks.
You say "well known" like it's some widespread issue, which we don't know it is. Even on this forum, most users report they have no issues with their DS. On the other hand, for every product out there you can find a bunch of people "reporting that they have a specific issue".
Anyway, back to your comment, it seems DualSenses are fine and well made for the most part, so no need for alarm, yet.
Oh I'm sure someone has with the dualsense, I'm not denying that.
PLease read the post I quoted, and consider my response. It's not to dismiss this issue, I'm criticizing others for dismissing the issue.
Literally any controller can develop drift after any usage of time, is this actually a widespread issue or a slow news day?
That said, people should not be charged for shipping.
Multiple people have reported it. So going with "most users" have no issues after only three months is pretty disingenious.
Maybe there isn't an issue.....but maybe....just maybe....there is. It's waaaaay too early to tell if "Dual Senses are fine and well made for the most part"
thats not hand waving. That's simply the level of discussion this sort of thing merits because we have nothing else to go on. Some people's controllers are fucking up. Others aren't/. What do you want this thread to be?
Yikes. I didn't expect to come back to 11 responses.
I admit some controllers of mine haven't drifted. But those are the controllers I don't use constantly. For example, my Xbox one x controller I've used only for Netflix doesn't have drift. My Xbox series x controller doesn't have drift but I only have had that since nov. my PS5 controller doesn't have drift but I've had that since November. My DualShock 4 doesn't have drift and I have had that since Xmas 2016 but ps4 is an exclusive machine. I've probably only put 100-200 hours a year on it total since 2016. I own maybe 10-15 ps games total across ps4 and PS5.
My day one Xbox day one controller had drift within 2-3 years of daily use and fighting games. My follow up controller that I used daily with mk11 and ki also had drift within a few years.
NONE of what I said takes away from my point. After a period of time and use, any controller will contract drift. It's just physics
What conclusions are we supposed to draw from a few reported faulty controllers out of the millions in existence?
one of my controllers started drifting yesterday while i was playing control. pray for my other controllers
Having dismissive posts stating "all controllers eventually drift" is handwaving.........
IF we were talking about DS4's having an issues that would be a different story at this point in their lifecycle.
Eh.....we're in the beginning of the generation so I doubt any independent source has collected enough data to figure out if it's a design fault or a "normal" failure rate. I guess Sony might have an inkling based on the number of warranty claims but of course mostly it's just the hardcore that buy a console in the first few months and maybe that tilts the data one way or another.
Maybe in a year or two we'll have a better picture?
is that hand waving or is it factual? Considering again, we don't know the extent to whatlevel of an issue this is (is it simply a vocal minority or is it something more widespread akin to Joy Con drift), if the fact that all controllers can develop drift eventually is true, I don't see how that's not relevant. Are yousaying that statement is false?
Been waiting for that on PS4 for years now... Looks I'll keep waiting
DO all controllers eventually drift after 3 months? Yes or No.
Ithis topic has made me realize how lucky I've been outside of my joycons the past 2 gens. My DS4s must have thousands of hours on them and are falling apart, but the sticks held strong. Same with my OG 360 controller. Didn't have my Xbox One long enough to wear but I'm praying the SeriesX controller holds strong.
I would honestly consider paying 99 bucks for a controller if it came with an exchange program I could cash in on within 2 years no questions asked.
I would honestly consider paying 99 bucks for a controller if it came with an exchange program I could cash in on within 2 years no questions asked.
I STILL USE 18 year old (dec 2002) gamecube controllers for smash bros, zero drift (one controllers stick was broken and wouldnt spring back to neutral from up due to damage, but not drift)
zero drift on my n64 controllers
zero drift on my 360 controllers (one died to frayed cable, one was stepped on upside down, crushing the stick)
zero drift on my dualshock 2 controllers, with hundreds of hours in GT4 and grinding out KH2 alone
Now I suddenly have problems with a switch joycon and a ps4 controller with a TENTH the gametime on them (my ps4 was bought brand new in 2018 and only used this last year on and off, and the joycon has similar use profile) and now supposedly all controllers are like this and were always like this?
Nah something changed or it turns out leaving controllers laying around on the basement floor is the only way to PREVENT drift while putting them up hurts them. This wasnt't and issue for me or any of my friends houses i went to back in the day, the bum nyko controller little siblings were forced to use had a stiff stick and bad buttons/ergonomics, not drift.
Exactly, you know how many $20 mad catz i had out of being a broke kid with low allowance, none of those drifted, they were garbage for other reasons.
Please stop cutting corners on the damn controllers.
Starting to really be an issue in the industry
Starting to really be an issue in the industry
Sure is a lot easier to just go out and buy a new one eh? Not a fan of this practice to create friction to send in for repairs and block working controllers when they know most people will probably just say "F it" and buy a new DualSense since it's less hassle and don't have to wait.
"Good" business move but bad for the consumer.
"Good" business move but bad for the consumer.
It's a fact. Currently, the vast majority of users don't have issues. Sure, it's been only three months, but by that logic you can assume anything. "Sony really messed up considering PlayStation 5s break after a year. They don't, you say? How can you tell - it's only been three months. Maybe they do, maybe they don't. But there were multiple reports of broken units. Out of 4.5 million. Multiple!".
Sure. Also maybe there is a winning lotery ticket inside some of them worth millions. It's highly unlikely but.... maybe.... just maybe.... there is.
You can really assume anything, if you want to do it without any relevant data. Do you know that a large number of Scandinavian people that love tea have a black belt in Karate? Maybe.
You do realize this is a logical fallacy? You make claims based on data and proof, not make them and ask to be proven wrong.
Since there is no data to indicate otherwise ("multiple people reporting" is anecdotal evidence at worst, statistical error at best), there is no reason to assume there's an issue. Generally speaking, when a product is out and it's "waaaaaay too early to tell", the logical thing is to assume the product works as advertised until proven otherwise. Why would you assume there is an issue without any relevant data? Unless it's like, something you want to believe.
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All? No. But every single DualSense isn't experiencing drift so I'm not sure what your point is. Saying "all controllers eventually drift" (which again, im not even agreeing with, I genuinely don't know if it's true, do you?) doesn't imply they all develop drift at the exact same time, no more than every Xbox 360 red ring'd or did so after a certain number of hours.
the failure rate of consumer electronics would lead me to assume that there's been at least someone for whom a controller or console has been a lemon right out of the box or after a few weeks. This doesn't mean it's a "common" issue, but it also could be. Again, we don't know. But bringing up that aspect of the discussion isn't "hand waving".
I'm on my 2nd one already due to drift. I play a lot of cod so I click them a lot to sprint and slide. Hopefully this issue doesn't last all gen ffs
Apparently that it's enough for someone in the press to write an article about it. Fact of the matter is, it's happening to people even if it isn't you. My joycons didn't drift either, until one day they did. Whatever the percentage, controllers shouldn't drift after such a short period of time, and Sony shouldn't be requiring you to call someone on the phone and pay for shipping to get it fixed.
I'm not the guy you're asking but why is the 3 month thing so big a deal when drifting can happen a month in as to your specific question being 3 months?
Yes it has
I've been gaming since Atari 2600 and never had a controller break until last gen- since then I had to replace one DS4, two Xbox one controllers and had three Joycons with drift issues. And another Joycon where the L1 no longer works
How long has PS5s been out?
Drifting in that timeframe is an issue and if it's happening to multiple users already it's just going to get worse
They need to copy steam and add some kind of utility in the OS so you can adjust it yourself.
Everyone should.
Also, yeah... I was under the impression that this will happen to basically every controller eventually because the way the analog stick mechanisms are made (like how Nintendo made them differently for the Switch and it seems to fail sooner). Sucks it's happening so quickly, though. Are the Dual Sense's analog sticks the standard ones you see in your controllers when you open them up (I haven't popped open any of my next gen controllers yet).
3 months.
But the article references 1 tweet and 1 reddit post as the source for drift. So what's your point? DS5 is broken? Sony needs to recall?
Thanks for the very thorough and mature reply I appreciate it
I've just have so many issues lately with controllers and esp Joycon drift I'm skeptical that this won't be an issue
Cut them some slack. They had to raise game prices just to keep the lights on.
I'm beginning to think that controllers are getting worse, but I'm also beginning to think that a dramatic amount of luck is involved in who gets drift with what controllers.
I've had a Switch for 3 and a half years, had two sets of Joy Cons, and have never experienced drift. I also have a Switch Lite (1 year), and never had drift with that, either. DualShock 4? I've had 4 or 5 of those, and every one of them has been terrible for me. A lot of people here have had very different experiences. It's weird!
I've had a Switch for 3 and a half years, had two sets of Joy Cons, and have never experienced drift. I also have a Switch Lite (1 year), and never had drift with that, either. DualShock 4? I've had 4 or 5 of those, and every one of them has been terrible for me. A lot of people here have had very different experiences. It's weird!
If anything, it's necessary.
If only the people with drift issues said something, it'd very very easy to get the impression that the issue is more widespread than it actually is.
Lemme tell you, this shit sucks. I had it happen on one of my two controllers.
It wasn't like the Joycon drift, this was completely unusable in any sense. Even the menus were constantly receiving an input to go left. It really felt more like a firmware issue to me but I'm no expert.
Was very fortunate Amazon's return policy is forgiving.
It wasn't like the Joycon drift, this was completely unusable in any sense. Even the menus were constantly receiving an input to go left. It really felt more like a firmware issue to me but I'm no expert.
Was very fortunate Amazon's return policy is forgiving.
You honestly think this is a "business move"? Like, they designed them to break?
