Do you know where the game devs were laid off? I know some folks at Beenox.Other game developers were laid off, not just a marketing team or customer service entities.
Do you know where the game devs were laid off? I know some folks at Beenox.Other game developers were laid off, not just a marketing team or customer service entities.
Yeah, they're spiraling down. I wouldn't be surprised if a Battle Royale mode is introduced.Freaking god, sucks to lose a job like that
Man, Overwatch scene should be worried
The company needed to rapidly expand a team and did not necessarily hold new FTE hires for that team to the same high standard as the company had historically followed, in order to ramp up quickly.
Good ol' capitalism.
Can't solve the problem? Try to convince people it's rational. Can't do that? Threaten them with cheaper markets. Can't do that? World Wars are a still a thing right?
Activision in a nutshell:
"We're making record profits, so we're laying everyone off"
"Destiny blew away sales records, but didn't meet our expectations so we let Bungie go"
I feel bad for From Software getting into business with them.
One thing I think we can all agree is great is seeing the support of the wider game community to get people in the process asap.
It kinda has to be that way. Sometimes people react violently when laid off. If given notice others will slack off or sabotage during their remaining time. My wife's old company laid off the IT department on a Monday (outsourced it) but had them finish out their week. Needless to say, the company's internal server and website ended up going down for several days after they left.
I believe unemployment benefits are intended to cover living expenses during the transition period.
Maybe you shouldn't troll in a thread about people losing their jobs. Show some common decency.Yeah, maybe.
But I do enjoy the armchair experts in this thread who think they know better.
That is pennies when trying to live in such a high cost of living area like CA. All the states are horrible at the cutoff maximum benefits. It's sometimes worst than minimum wage.
You're a real piece of work.Yep - you always slide the crappy employees in with the layoffs.
I'm still bewildered by people who defend capitalism. It's a system that has failed spectacularly multiple times within the past 100 years (and continues to do so), across multiple countries on multiple continents, leading to millions upon millions of deaths and untold amounts of suffering.someone in this very thread was scaremongering about iran completely unprompted. the brain worms capitalism give people are so powerful
I'm still bewildered by people who defend capitalism. It's a system that has failed spectacularly multiple times within the past 100 years (and continues to do so), across multiple countries on multiple continents, leading to millions upon millions of deaths and untold amounts of suffering.
I'm also pretty sure I know what the definition of insanity is.I'm pretty sure other systems have had similar failures.
Maybe the problem isn't the systems.
You know, you might want to use a video game publisher for your whataboutisms.Is it just the state of politics in the US that makes this a bigger deal (on this site) then when any other company has layoffs, or has had layoffs in the past? Verizon buying Yahoo laid off like 2000+ employees, and just recently something like 10,400 Verizon employees took a separation package as part of a voluntary layoff.
I'm also pretty sure I know what the definition of insanity is.
I'm pretty sure other systems have had similar failures.
Maybe the problem isn't the systems.
You know, you had a decent thing going here before you inexplicably decided that full price rereleases and not putting games on sale deserve to be in the same list as glorifying excessive crunch.Is this the Japanese working culture that advocates people sleeping under their desks? Or the Japanese working culture that anonymizes and changes phone numbers and emails of their employees so they are interchangeable? Or is it the Japanese working culture that makes crunch "fun" by calling it mario time? Or is it the Japanese working culture that makes you repeatedly by the same game for full price? or the one that never lowers their prices for games and gouges the consumer repeatedly for old games? I'm just confused on which culture we are talking about....
Iwata was a great in the industry, but lets not make him or his business practices out to be "holy"
Well, they're not wrong. The issue of greed and expliotation are older than revenue projections.
You know, you had a decent thing going here before you inexplicably decided that full price rereleases and not putting games on sale deserve to be in the same list as glorifying excessive crunch.
Not really the thread for explaining the issue with economies of scale and capital. Though the historical ones should be obvious.Well, they're not wrong. The issue of greed and expliotation are older than revenue projections.
yes, and even marx acknowledged that capitalism was a step forward from feudalism. so what?
people will use literally any deflection they can to avoid examining the problems with the system, I think we're close to the full deck in this thread between "that's just how the system works" "old systems were bad too" and "well [other system] scary". i haven't even professed an affinity for any specific other system in capitalism's stead and people are battening down the hatches like they're in danger of being dragged to the gulag, lol. faith in this clearly very bad system runs deep
Not really the thread for explaining the issue with economies of scale and capital. Though the historical ones should be obvious.
Right so why would you want to keep working when you know you're toast? I'd rather collect my unemployment and work on finding a new job. What's the benefit of wasting more time at a place that is cutting you loose?Um, you get severance pay in other countries as well. It's the law...
Activision in a nutshell:
"We're making record profits, so we're laying everyone off"
"Destiny blew away sales records, but didn't meet our expectations so we let Bungie go"
I'm still bewildered by people who defend capitalism. It's a system that has failed spectacularly multiple times within the past 100 years (and continues to do so), across multiple countries on multiple continents, leading to millions upon millions of deaths and untold amounts of suffering.
I don't normally make people's post histories my concern (I'd feel like some sort of weird inquisitor if I went and looked at a person's post history every time I replied to someone). Is there something you want me to be concerned about that wasn't mentioned?Ok. Have you read my other posts or just the last page while firing off?
Sure, but like, there's lots of ways to sell junk?The power to sell junk as it were is very powerful, even China has had to accede to that idea.
Yeah, its why I included HOTS and was unspecific to esports. Were WoW/OW/HS/Diablo devs laid off? Their statement said they were re-allocating resources to thoseOther game developers were laid off, not just a marketing team or customer service entities.
Yeah, they're spiraling down. I wouldn't be surprised if a Battle Royale mode is introduced.
So what do you like?I just, really hate capitalism. If that makes me some weirdo or edgy asshole or something so be it.
I mean developers throughout the Activision Blizzard, not just those teams. Including full development studios. Remember, this has nothing to do with Blizzard as a game studio, it's Activision-Blizzard that was laying folks off.Yeah, its why I included HOTS and was unspecific to esports. Were WoW/OW/HS/Diablo devs laid off? Their statement said they were re-allocating resources to those
Yeah, many of them are probably going to leave the industryThe problem with this layoff is it won't be as big of a cut to actual development teams; it will be your interns, your customer service etc. Those 800 cut people won't see many land on their feet, most will end up shifting to other sectors.
I wouldn't be surprised if the playerbase has shrunk, but in terms of viewership and mindshare, it's way down. Other games like Fortnite, PubG, etc overtook the shooter genre. CS:GO is an oddity in how well it stays/Wait, Overwatch is spiralling down? What's happening to it? Is the player count getting that low?