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Kong: Skull Island is Underrated
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I didnt hate it but from start to finish the whole thing felt pointless.
The only good thing you can say about it is "fun,", the single most vapid of all good things to say about a movie, and nothing else. It lacks any story, point or feeling of care and sincerity. Scenes and events happen with no reason other than "just because." Characters die in comical ways that defy belief or rationality.
It's like watching Romeo and Juliet but they just fall in love, with 99% of screen time dedicated to some fights between the houses and that's it. Nothing else happens. That's what Kong Skull Island is like.
The only good thing you can say about it is "fun,", the single most vapid of all good things to say about a movie, and nothing else. It lacks any story, point or feeling of care and sincerity. Scenes and events happen with no reason other than "just because." Characters die in comical ways that defy belief or rationality.
It's like watching Romeo and Juliet but they just fall in love, with 99% of screen time dedicated to some fights between the houses and that's it. Nothing else happens. That's what Kong Skull Island is like.
Its actually fun.
Something the Godzilla movies are lacking. Which is why those movies are bad.
Everyone in the Godzilla movies are either sad or crying.
Something the Godzilla movies are lacking. Which is why those movies are bad.
Everyone in the Godzilla movies are either sad or crying.
It's got the worst human characters in the Monsterverse, somehow. Probably because they are cardboard cutouts. Every fucking Monsterverse movie has been a mixed bag thanks to this, and Godzilla vs Kong isn't going to change that.
KotM is simultaneously my most hated and most loved Monsterverse film. It's got the best moments in that universe, but it's all so crammed in and without any weight. Any brilliance from that movie is from the monsters. The idea of the humans plot are sound, it's just evacuated so cheesy and vapid. It's hilarious to me that by the end the intention was the audience to find it heartbreaking when Vera's character sacrifices herself, but instead it's laughable. The shame of it is how that stuff is sandwiched with the great monster scenes like Ghidorah's lightning going crazy. The dialogue in that movie....shew... I'm telling you..
"They called it Ghidorah."
"Gee-what?"
"Did she say gonorrhea?"
Har har har har har Har har har har
Fucking Kill me.
KotM is simultaneously my most hated and most loved Monsterverse film. It's got the best moments in that universe, but it's all so crammed in and without any weight. Any brilliance from that movie is from the monsters. The idea of the humans plot are sound, it's just evacuated so cheesy and vapid. It's hilarious to me that by the end the intention was the audience to find it heartbreaking when Vera's character sacrifices herself, but instead it's laughable. The shame of it is how that stuff is sandwiched with the great monster scenes like Ghidorah's lightning going crazy. The dialogue in that movie....shew... I'm telling you..
"They called it Ghidorah."
"Gee-what?"
"Did she say gonorrhea?"
Har har har har har Har har har har
Fucking Kill me.
It definitely has the right tone for a movie about a giant gorilla, and probably a Metal Gear movie. Languishes in its own stupidity. The overly serious tone of the Godzilla reboot was tiresome.
Proof that big dumb loud expensive movies can also be really fun. It's such a visual feast.
So excited for the MGS movie from Jordan-Vogt-Roberts.
So excited for the MGS movie from Jordan-Vogt-Roberts.
Originally the movie had Jackson's second in command, Chapman, who was killed by the lizards at the Sea Stallion, as the action hero. Hiddleston's character was added at the last moment
It would have improved the film quite a bit, at least to me. You would have a back and fourth of sorts with Samuel L Jackson's character who is obsessed with revenge and Chapman, who just wants to get back home alive to meet his infant son. More character development for the already existing cast. Less civilians vs military as far as the survivor group too.
I'll echo what someone else here said that it's a good movie, best of the monsterverse, but just short of being a great one.
I watched it last night as well on Apple TV. 4K HDR with Dolby Atmos. Absolutely wonderful experience. Spectacular colours, some great framing, and a couple of cool transitions.
They also got the fights right. The action follows Kong, and the kaijus are not relegated to a backdrop/sky box while humans do their stupid. I think keeping Kong's size somewhat small helped there.
Kong also goes Mortal Kombat in that last fight. Does a Scorpion "get over here", as well as a Fatality. Awesome stuff.
In the Godzilla/KotM films the scale of the monsters vs humans doesn't help with keeping the monsters in frame. They are either a foot or a tail; rarely the entire kaiju duking it out.
I hope Godzilla vs Kong keeps the action as riveting as Skull Island. But not holding my breath.
They also got the fights right. The action follows Kong, and the kaijus are not relegated to a backdrop/sky box while humans do their stupid. I think keeping Kong's size somewhat small helped there.
Kong also goes Mortal Kombat in that last fight. Does a Scorpion "get over here", as well as a Fatality. Awesome stuff.
In the Godzilla/KotM films the scale of the monsters vs humans doesn't help with keeping the monsters in frame. They are either a foot or a tail; rarely the entire kaiju duking it out.
I hope Godzilla vs Kong keeps the action as riveting as Skull Island. But not holding my breath.
Saw it on a whim when me and my dad were out doing stuff, left the theater pleasantly surprised. It's not incredible but it's a fun popcorn flick.
I was in a really good mood or something when I saw this in the cinema, because I loved this movie. I'm scared to watch it again in case it doesn't live up to the good time I had.
I'm watching it tomorrow night as the Kong vs Godzilla trailer inspired run through the monster verse films.
I'm watching it tomorrow night as the Kong vs Godzilla trailer inspired run through the monster verse films.
Love the film.
It looks great, has a great cast, doesn't take it too seriously. And it wears its 'Adventure' genre with pride, it is basically a big budget update of a Doug McClure style adventure film, and that is infinitely more appealing than the rest of the Monsterverse's attempts to replicate the 'scientist story' stylings of Toho's films.
It looks great, has a great cast, doesn't take it too seriously. And it wears its 'Adventure' genre with pride, it is basically a big budget update of a Doug McClure style adventure film, and that is infinitely more appealing than the rest of the Monsterverse's attempts to replicate the 'scientist story' stylings of Toho's films.
What I like about some movies is when they don't revolve around the main star.
40 Year Old Virgin.. what made it great was his co-workers.
Skull Island.. it was those scenes with different types of creatures and exotic environments. I need to watch it again on my OLED. 😁
40 Year Old Virgin.. what made it great was his co-workers.
Skull Island.. it was those scenes with different types of creatures and exotic environments. I need to watch it again on my OLED. 😁
Watched it last night. Thoroughly enjoyed it, but I have gripes about the village on the island. If John's character lived with them for 20 years, certainly there should have been more idk, humanity? Like was it too much to have some sort of language spoken? They had impressive architectural feats, why couldn't we dive in on that?
Great visuals, fun monster action, characters I gave zero shits about. I just couldn't fully invest in it, same as the Godzilla flicks really. Fine for a watch, but I doubt I'll ever watch them again.
Ah, this explains why Chapman has so much time devoted to him when he just gets eaten.
I enjoyed this a lot, my only other criticism is that the big skull crawler should have been more visually distinct from the smaller ones.
I finally saw it for the first time. I thought it was really good. The human characters are night and day compared to KOTM in how much likeability they had.
Especially John C. Reilly's character. Am I the only one who got a lil teary-eyed during the ending scene? That moment just worked for me.
Especially John C. Reilly's character. Am I the only one who got a lil teary-eyed during the ending scene? That moment just worked for me.
It's solid but it has that issue of Kong and the bigger monsters never really feeling present (similar to King of the Monsters). It was good when it was the humans dealing with the smaller scale stuff though.
And man, that dude that got carried off by the bird/ pterodactyl things and you see his arm get ripped off, that was fucking brutal.
And man, that dude that got carried off by the bird/ pterodactyl things and you see his arm get ripped off, that was fucking brutal.
I thought it looked great, had a great cast and, above all, was ultra-self aware and had a very good sense of humour. It was very entertaining, fun to watch and the John C. Reilly character had lots of heart. It's a good popcorn movie.
I can understand some of the criticisms. Particularly, the random deaths.
Outside of one character's death that seemed to come out of nowhere, I think the random, unforgiving nature of the deaths made it feel like anyone could die.
Also, they made Samuel L. Jackson's character shift into dumbass territory near the end.
Outside of one character's death that seemed to come out of nowhere, I think the random, unforgiving nature of the deaths made it feel like anyone could die.
Also, they made Samuel L. Jackson's character shift into dumbass territory near the end.
Kong has some nice shots, but was just a stupid movie.
Aircraft Pilots in Godzilla: "We can avoid the EMP of the MUTO if we just fly very high!".
Helicopter Pilots in Kong: "Hey, there's a cool giant ape, let's fly right at him instead of using our machine guns which could make minzemeat out of him from a save distance!"
Aircraft Pilots in Godzilla: "We can avoid the EMP of the MUTO if we just fly very high!".
Helicopter Pilots in Kong: "Hey, there's a cool giant ape, let's fly right at him instead of using our machine guns which could make minzemeat out of him from a save distance!"
The only things I remember are John Goodman and being astonished that the Toby Kebbell character had a side plot that went absolutely nowhere.
It's got some cool moments in the first half and near the end. But it's a fucking mess in terms of story, and characters, and it's central message. What someone said above about Hiddelston's character being added at the last minute makes so much sense now. He and Larson are essentially irrelevant to the plot and are given such paper thin characterization. The movie really doesn't know what it wants to do or be in the second half. The way it kills off Chapman for little to no reason with no fanfare was wild to me.
But yeah, it does look pretty. It's just a mess in every other way.
But yeah, it does look pretty. It's just a mess in every other way.
Great visuals and action. I also thought the pacing is solid after the first thirty minutes.
The supporting cast was fine, but both Brie and Loki are incredibly miscast. Brie is highly overqualified and Loki does not sell being a hardened soldier at all. Toby Kebell should have played that role instead.
The supporting cast was fine, but both Brie and Loki are incredibly miscast. Brie is highly overqualified and Loki does not sell being a hardened soldier at all. Toby Kebell should have played that role instead.
Because it's Kong's island, and they were literally dropping bombs on it. And even then, he mostly leaves the people alone or even protects them when they aren't actively antagonizing him.
I think this is a loaded question. Someone mentioned being the best in the dumpster fire. I agree with that statement. But I also see Skull Island as a "sequel" to the other Kong films. This film feels we are following another story. In fact it is the only time I think this worked when most of the time it fails. A great example would be Doom Eternal. There were things not explained that felt we missed a full story and maybe a better story. But Skull Island didn't feel that way.
The movie does scale much better than Godzilla. Also, the idea to demystify Kong from the get go was a wise decision. Samuel Jackson was hilarious and the colors were really cool! I totally agree it was a fun little movie