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Kojima: Death Stranding Had Stronger Criticism in the US, Possibly Because It Flies Above Shooters
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Ah, so another "all Americans are dumb and everyone else in the world is way smarter" take. From a game series that using almost exclusively American characters. Using narratives deeply steeped in American places and cultures.
Then again saying bad things about Americans has always been popular and can get your product better sales possibly so this might be smart.
Then again saying bad things about Americans has always been popular and can get your product better sales possibly so this might be smart.
Orrrrrr people are open to other experiences instead of always wanting instant gratification yet they still find the gameplay kind of dull or needlessly annoying at times with a story that calling it heavy handed would be an understatement.
It's great that you're enjoying the game, but painting a generalizing brush that "people aren't liking it because they're not patient" doesn't help anything.
I'm an American that will be trying this game on PC. I hope I'm smart enough to understand the gameplay.
Doesnt the West, and Europe as well play more genres than Japan though? I like Kojima, but this really comes off as arrogant.
Death Stranding is not the first walking simulator by the way, so lets stop acting like Kojima created some new medium.
Death Stranding is not the first walking simulator by the way, so lets stop acting like Kojima created some new medium.
Kojima can be a victim of shitty management and still be an egomaniac. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
Not only will you enjoy it, you will see the game in a way no one else will. You're the one that was meant to play it all along. Kojima loves you, monsieur.
Dumb take. You can both be open to new experiences and still be disapointed in them. Much more so is the way you mock people for wanting to be entertained in their choice of entertainment media. The creator themself admits that the first half of this game will turn people off on it. Seems like people are having valid takes all around. Glad you had fun.... no need to invalidate people who didn't.
Of the 17 reviews giving the game a score under 8: 7 are American outlets, 4 British, 3 Australian, 1 Canadian. Only 2 are from non-English speaking countries. Like you stated some of the American outlet reviews are by non-Americans - either Canadian, British or Australian. This even only accounting for printed reviews and not all the American journalist tweeting out how much they hated it or refused to play more after one session.
I think his statement is unfounded, but let's be real there's definitely a picture of stronger criticism from US/English reviewers. Maybe we're just easier to please in Europe.
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I think it's more an issue with "scoring" rather than the content of the reviews.
Kojima took risks in making this game. Most people like it and some people don't. All he has to do is look at the reception of his friend Nicolas Winding Refn's films. Some are loved, some not so much (most not so much). If Kojima wants to makes what he considers to be art, then sometimes the reception will not be overwhelmingly positive. Art is subjective in the complete sense of the word. Some people won't be affected by the work in ways others will be. I appreciate what he's doing with a AAA title in a day and age where it's hard to take too many risks with the amount of money and time it takes to make these games. Others may not appreciate it and would prefer something with more immediate gratification and action (I'm personally a bit worn out on shooting everything that moves in games and while I'm early in Death Stranding, it's filling a niche for me ) and he needs to take pride in that his work is what he set out to do and not worry about people who don't love it.
Dan Ryckert described the Kojima media event during the latest Giant Beastcast, and he said it was the strangest industry event he's ever been to. The photo wall seems super self indulgent. Like those creepy facebook profiles where that guy has 100 of celebrity selfies he's taking while pointing at them.
Is this a meme reference, because I've seen this exact same comment at least once already?
Jesus Christ, I am so happy I refunded this now. This is just brazen.
I'm not certain you understand how that meme works.Celebrating the people who came to help you is egomaniac? Ok.
The statement was very simple.
Kojima can be a victim. He can also be an egomaniac. His being an egomaniac doesn't take away from his being a victim. That's not a statement of hatred toward Kojima.
I mean you could google it
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I understand fully well how the meme works, thank you. Maybe look at what the statement was a response to?
I'm surprised so many here are taking those comments as some kind of attack on America, there's undeniably a pervasive gun culture there that seeps into every aspect of American media to a point where many must find a large scale game built around something other than combat to be jarring.
I've always felt other series like Uncharted and Watch Dogs could have been improved games without any gun combat whatsoever but wondered if they'd be labelled "boring" by many as a result.
I've always felt other series like Uncharted and Watch Dogs could have been improved games without any gun combat whatsoever but wondered if they'd be labelled "boring" by many as a result.
Poster posts a picture of collage to make fun of Developer being egomaniac.
I post that it really isn't something to make fun of when you think of the situation around it.
Second poster posts being an egomaniac and a victim isn't mutually exclusive which is fine and correct, but it still doesn't change that at this point you're just looking for things with a microscope by finding that collage an indication of egomania.
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A massive wall of praise sure feels like ego-stroking to me. Everyone's had people helping them though tough times, but you don't see them putting on giant wall displays of people saying how great they are.Celebrating the people who came to help you is egomaniac? Ok.
And for fuck's sake, I don't hate Kojima. MGS3 is one of my favorite games ever. I waited in front of a Uniqlo for hours to meet him in person and get my copy of MGS HD Collection signed by him. I still think he's an egomaniac who desparately needs an editor.
This thread is embarrassing. Also, extremely amusing. To see the amount of salt generated against Kojima is a sight to behold 😄
Yeesh. I haven't cringed at something like this in a while. And we have Trump in office.I can't believe you guys would say Kojima has an ego.
Would a man with an ego have a wall full of celebrity selfies at an art gallery for his game?
But most large scale games, from every country, are combat based. That's not some American exclusive feature, wtf?
Here, I'll translate Mads Mikkelsens words from the collage: "Your glass is always half full, Hideo!". It's literally a celebration of optimism between him and all the friends he made after a hard time. He felt it was relevant to the game and made it part of the gallery.
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83. Such a terrible score... (honestly, it's a pretty generous one given how polarized many critics were on it).
I guess when you're used to all your games being in the 90s, though, an 83 must feel like the worst score ever. That's, like, Zone of the Enders and Boktai territory for him! How terrible!
