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Kojima: Death Stranding Had Stronger Criticism in the US, Possibly Because It Flies Above Shooters
- Thread starter Shakerovic
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I don't know about all that but I don't see DS beating COD in most European countries. At the end of the day, lots of people like good shootybangs regardless of what generalizations people like Kojima want to make.
I feel like gameplay aside, can't we just compare the story stuff. The game is fucking bonkers. Seems like translated to english non-sense, embarrassingly on the nose attempts at political commentary that yet still somehow lacks coherence.
Gameplay wise, pretty cool I guess.
Gameplay wise, pretty cool I guess.
You'd imagine that IGN could have saved themselves the bother for once and plagiarized one of their sister review sites. The nastier reviews were from US media, with wilder variance of scores compared to other regions. Negative reviews with no agenda are fine with reasoned bullet points to back it up but some reviews read like people with axes to grind. The majority of negative comments in reviews would have attacks on Kojima and not the game itself.
I'm actually surprised it has a higher meta than the new COD, which I thought was one of the best in years.
That's not totally true.
Top 3 Best selling Games in the UK in 2018:
- FIFA 19
- RDR 2
- Black Ops 4
- FIFA 19
- RDR2
- Black Ops 4
- FIFA 19
- RDR2
- Black Ops 4
Yes, France has more Nintendo games, but the vast majority of the top selling games are the same, for France, Italy and the UK.
Wait till he gets slapped with a 5/10 by Edge.
Weirdest thing is that Death ~Mona Lisa~ Stranding has more perfect 10s than games that review higher such as Luigi's Mansion and Outer Worlds. Without these perfect 10s it would be deservedly in the mid 70s on Meta and closer to its user scores.
Wait till he gets slapped with a 5/10 by Edge.
Weirdest thing is that Death ~Mona Lisa~ Stranding has more perfect 10s than games that review higher such as Luigi's Mansion and Outer Worlds. Without these perfect 10s it would be deservedly in the mid 70s on Meta and closer to its user scores.
What would you score it after your time with it?
I haven't played it yet, waiting on Steam version to mod the shit out of the crappy systems Godjima sama has put in the game.
Sorry if my post came of condescending or anything of the sort. I've just been reading through the entirety of the thread and I keep seeing it go in circles regarding review scores and that got shared multiple times and so few seemed to ever click the link. I think it should really be threadmarked or something.
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Regarding the thread on learning a language. It's can be dependent on the language, how adjacent it is to another, familiarity and how well you recognize words, how much you may have been exposed to it, and of course even the individual on how easy or hard a language is to learn. Someone who's only language is English may find learning Dutch/German easier due to the familiarity in a lot of the words looking similar to our own and holding the same or similar meaning.
I see, so saying that it deserved to be in the 70's meta wise seems a little bit bullshit then.
Oh, you didn't come across that way. It's very true you have a good point overall, people rarely even read the OT...
English is also so dominent that it is everywhere in popular media, so it's probably eaiser via saturation to a degree.
It's not perfect, I dont think it is, masterpiece doesnt mean perfect to me, means it does something extremely well, or has new and interesting concepts.
But giving 2 out of 10 and saying its boring or dimish it to a "Amazon simulator" its not a valid opinion.(also means it was not played more than a couple of hours...) that's people/reviews opionions I cant respect.
Its like saying: in FIFA you just run kicking a ball, boring. In COD you just shoot at people all the time, boring.
Thats what I think...
I don't think any game that has more perfect 10s than games scoring higher on it on Meta deserve their score. I think a lot of reviewers gave a perfect 10 because the game is made by a celebrity director.
Each to their own. 30 hours in and I'm having a blast. Been going out of my way to do extra deliveries and build extra structures and contributing to roadways.
Right.
Then again it really does seem like a love or hate it game, in the OT some are saying it's GOTY when they were unsure of it whereas others just aren't that into it.
I agree, but if you fall down a lot, it means you re doing something wrong..
I agree with this but it is a different case than fair criticism from professionals in the press.
Since you're a fan of the game I'd like your opinion on a thought I have. What is the point of the deliveries? If the game's message is to rebuild a broken country, couldn't deliveries have been replaced with more interesting quests and still retain the same mesage?
"Deserve their score" metacritic is idiotic.
The idea that game reviews have to line up is so dumb. So nothing can be polarising?
The fact that you think that by not playing the game you can make any kind of value statement as if it's a commodity is silly.
So it's like every other Kojima game, then. At least post MGS3.
Sure if its fair and explained well, then I may disagree but its okay.
Because it's the kind of game journalists and bloggers love, because of it's great handling of its subject matter, the attention to detail, thenostalgia factor, and its pedigree.
Otherwise it's an absolutely mediocre walking simulator.
I'm not sure? I find the delivery stuff really enjoyable and meditative so I'm not sure I can answer your question. I wouldn't change it for something else.
The game is a cooperative logistics simulator with a crazy sci fi story. Honestly I'm mostly baffled by the people who can love Breath of the Wild and not like this. Honestly, there is a lot of common DNA in their design philosophy, but instead of shrines you have delivery points and the puzzle solving is figuring out how to better traverse the world.
Helping the different people and cities nets you many beneficial tools and helping other players put resources into roads makes the world more traversable, making it easier to make more deliveries. All the mechanical loops feed into each other and reinforce one another.
First, I didn't even say it was bad.
Second, it's still a videogame. The gameplay is still the most important thing.
I wonder if he will have the same energy when the last of us 2 comes out?
Also, isn't this an incredibly disrespectful view to hold when most of the major award winning teams at Sony are American?
I'm sorry, I forgot he "flies higher." And I actually like this game but this is some serious dumbsh@t.
Also, isn't this an incredibly disrespectful view to hold when most of the major award winning teams at Sony are American?
I'm sorry, I forgot he "flies higher." And I actually like this game but this is some serious dumbsh@t.
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That the (lack of) gameplay of Gone Home was irrelevant to its scores.
hah Kojima really is up his own ass. If you don't like a narrative, find one that fits your world view.
I've got no particular opinion on Death Stranding beyond LMAO @ "Strand Game" but following Kojima on twitters shows he's pretty obsessed with these reviews.
I've got no particular opinion on Death Stranding beyond LMAO @ "Strand Game" but following Kojima on twitters shows he's pretty obsessed with these reviews.
I'll chime in if that is okay. I love the game and the deliveries help bring communities together. Like delivering medication, fresh water and supplies and shows them they can help each other. Same with the online. Different porters help each other and create a sense of community. I also think the deliveries themselves are interesting. Doesn't sound fun on paper but really fun when playing.
I'm liking the game a lot but Kojima needs to be quiet. There are plenty of games in the west that score high and don't involve shooting. Also all of the stories in his games are ridiculous anime nonsense. They are entertaining stories but common, so many other games have done so much more. This game isn't high art or anything. You make weapons out of your blood and fecal matter for fuck's sake.
What Kojima should be focused on in these interviews is what he has done with traversal. I would love to see other games make traversal more interactive and thoughtful like he has done in Death Stranding. That's the part of the game that is innovative.
What Kojima should be focused on in these interviews is what he has done with traversal. I would love to see other games make traversal more interactive and thoughtful like he has done in Death Stranding. That's the part of the game that is innovative.
This is a comment that will stay and will only seperate believers from non-believers even more now and the following years and projects. It will also follow him forever now, making his attitude questionable, even if it something is not related to the current situation. It leaves an opinion about his personality, sadly.
User banned (permanent): Ableism. Inflammatory behavior. History of related behavior.
what can you expect from a fucked up narcisist that been ass kissed by everyone for decades and a huge portion of its fanbase treat him like hes some kind of god because he made games with retarded stories that have more cutscenes than gameplay. He lilterally tinks his shit doesnt stink, He actually thinks its a fragrance. Its phenomenal how someone can have his head so far up his ass hes practically two headed
America. Fuck yeah!
Also walking around trying not to lose your footing whilst micromanaging complex systems might not be fun for some people regardless of where they live.
Also walking around trying not to lose your footing whilst micromanaging complex systems might not be fun for some people regardless of where they live.
To call this game a walking simulator, even when talking about the deliveries part, is flat out wrong. There's so much strategy in the deliveries, how much to carry, how to best carry it, etc. This isn't close to being in the same genre as Everybody has Gone to the Rapture or Edith Finch. It's closer to a chill MGS V.
I really hope Kojima gets to keep making games, but if for some reason he can't due to low sales etc I hope there's a movie making future for him as I love his story telling style.
I really hope Kojima gets to keep making games, but if for some reason he can't due to low sales etc I hope there's a movie making future for him as I love his story telling style.
European here. Gameplay wise the game sucks donkey dick, sorry Kojima. I'm playing it for the Kojima stuff and the story, but the game is an absolute chore.