If he wasn't such a huge piece of shit, I would feel bad for being selfish in thinking about a bright future for DQ music now that he's gone.
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Koichi Sugiyama, composer of Dragon Quest, has passed away (SEE STAFF POST)
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Rest in piss in shit asshole.
May the souls you mocked and denied the existence of torment you in the eternal abyss.
May the souls you mocked and denied the existence of torment you in the eternal abyss.
Nah I definitely think I'm a better person than the war-crime denying, teenage suicide laughing, homophobic, transphobic, misogynist.
Get the fuck off your high-horse.
Never said i was lol, NIGHTMARE NIGHTMARE NIGHTMARE
Now that this fuck is gone, things will hopefully improve on several levels with DQ as a whole
Rest in Piss
No, being happy someone can no longer spread their message of hate makes us better.
Meanwhile the people clutching their pearls over sensible reactions to the death of garbage can get fucked.
i mean if were supposed to respect the art, he could have died years ago and it would have effected his art very little. Most of dq11's actual good music was from older days games. Imagine if final fantasy 16 comes out and the best songs in it are taken from ff9, 6 and 10. You'd feel robbed.
sugiyama wasnt just an active hate monger, he was a fundamental reason that the music in dq11 was so bad.
He thinks I'm disgusting just by existing as an LGBTQ person, especially as someone who has done business with friendly Japanese people and has visited Japan so many times, and he uses his power and influence to make people like me suffer. I won't mourn for his passing and good riddance.
I hope Hayato Matsuo can work on DQ from now on, he's massively talented.
*: thought, he's not capable of the present tense. lol
I hope Hayato Matsuo can work on DQ from now on, he's massively talented.
*: thought, he's not capable of the present tense. lol
I feel dumb for not getting this. All I know is that he was a homophobe, transphobe, and denied the Nanjing massacre. Did he celebrate someone's death? I don't know the intricate details of his views.
I'm glad that he won't be abusing his wealth and platform to hurt people anymore
e: unless, of course, he designated that future royalties go to hate groups. did he have a wife or children?
e: unless, of course, he designated that future royalties go to hate groups. did he have a wife or children?
This bigot has been composing mediocre work in the DQ games for years. The series & the world is better off now.
Rest in piss.
Rest in piss.
Yeah so do we know if his actual legacy (not the cute composition he made for games people happened to like) will continue beyond his death?
Because I'm still not touching DQ with a 10 feet pole if I'm not 100% certain it's not funding a big far right effort to deny war crimes and push ethno nationalism.
Because I'm still not touching DQ with a 10 feet pole if I'm not 100% certain it's not funding a big far right effort to deny war crimes and push ethno nationalism.
This has most likely been posted before but RIPBOZO.
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Real Talk. To Them (Japan) He is National Treasure. His death It's going to be big news (and probably even have a big funeral)
We can expect many Japanese developers tweets to talk about this tomorrow.
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I'm going to offer up a different take here than most people: I'm not concerned with being morally better than someone in this context.
In many instances I simply don't care about whether I'm a "good person", especially to right-leaning types. If being glad (or unconcerned at best) about a person's death, who has caused demonstrable harm while alive, makes me horrible to you? So be it.
WeebSimpsons back from the dead to post about it.
I am curious though, who's going to get the music rights? Sugiyama had an iron grip on them, but will they go to his family, his company, or will Square-Enix take control? Too soon to tell.
Just don't expect XII to get rid of everything he made, the main theme will definitely be there, along with some of the jingles.
Oh good, well now that you've put me in my place, I'll just not be happy that a man who would laugh his ass off if I committed suicide is now in the ground.
Thank you for your enlightening words. How silly I must've been to feel relief and joy that someone who wants me to die is dead.
Now we know the truth: Denying the rape and murder of thousands of people and laughing at LGBTQ+ teens killing themselves is, if you look at the scale, just as bad as being happy that someone who does those things is no longer around.
Enjoy your ban, loser.
If people hate DQ music and are expecting it to suddenly change completely in style because Sugiyama won't be composing it, they've got another thing coming.
There are probably one or two generations of composers that were influenced by Sugiyama and I'll eat my hat if SE won't try to find someone who can emulate his style. And I also fully expect the games to still have tons of his old music in them.
The only meaningful change I expect from this is that we probably won't have any issues getting the orchestral soundtrack right off the bat anymore, and that the new composer will most likely put a lot more effort on the new songs than Sugiyama had been putting.
There are probably one or two generations of composers that were influenced by Sugiyama and I'll eat my hat if SE won't try to find someone who can emulate his style. And I also fully expect the games to still have tons of his old music in them.
The only meaningful change I expect from this is that we probably won't have any issues getting the orchestral soundtrack right off the bat anymore, and that the new composer will most likely put a lot more effort on the new songs than Sugiyama had been putting.
I imagine the "Dragon Quest style" isn't going anywhere, for sure, but Sugiyama had been phoning shit in for a decade on a level that makes Motoi Sakuraba's recent Tales work sound like peak Uematsu. Literally anyone else doing the job would try harder than he did almost by default. You'd have to actively go out of your way and set your mind specifically to composing something as boring as DQXI's overworld theme.
I've seen people mention that he used his money to cause suffering to the LGBTQ community. Could I get some details on this? In regard to his stance on the LGBTQ community, I only know of his laughing at the suicide of people from that community.
I know you've already been quoted a lot, but I'm doing it still lol. It's a good post.
oh no, somebody on the internet thinks I'm worse than fucking Koichi Sugiyama. how will I live knowing this.
Counterpoint: This guy lived a long, full, rich life that included shitting on and straight up denying the suffering of other, much more vulnerable people. The world is a better place with fewer people exposing these views. Tut-tutting people (particularly people of this board that have and continue to deal with this kind of bigotry firsthand) does not make your view either wise or above it all.
Sugiyama was known for making substantial donations to various right-wing special interest groups and politicians, and regularly appeared on right-wing TV decrying homosexuality, including the laughter incident you mentioned.
https://kotaku.com/politician-made-anti-lgbtq-comments-on-dragon-quest-com-1827885043
You know they're gonna get Shimomura and she's gonna do an amazing job.
I could be wrong on this, but I believe he has an apprentice who's set to take over after his retirement. Presumably he works for Sugiyama's company and will take over composing responsibilities from now.
The best thing about this news is that Sugiyama is dead.
The second best thing about this news is that Dragon Quest will finally get a new composer. As much as I love Sugiyama's compositions, he clearly didn't have the impetus he had at the beginning of the series. Tracks have been getting reused in lieu of new compositions since DQVIII.
The second best thing about this news is that Dragon Quest will finally get a new composer. As much as I love Sugiyama's compositions, he clearly didn't have the impetus he had at the beginning of the series. Tracks have been getting reused in lieu of new compositions since DQVIII.