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KOF XIII combo trials were hard af
- Thread starter chaobreaker
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Oh boy, the missing information in some of these really pissed me off. Atleast it's kind of obvious here that something is missing. There were some where you needed to walk forward for like 3 frames between hits and it was impossible to tell you're supposed to do that.
Game was like, "Figure it out, asshole"
Pretty much, being able to defend against certain setups and knowing your basics to open people up will get you farther than whatever incredibly hard combo you will never land, because you can't open people up.
By the time this trial came out, the infinite was pretty well known. Seeing the requirements told me everything I needed to know about what inputs were needed.
Game was like, "Figure it out, asshole"
As far as difficulty, XIII is way harder than anything in SFIV. there are some really hard Blazblue combos as well.
Good for you, I guess.
That's objectively an awful instruction for a combo trial. More than half of the information is missing, it's ridiculous.
I dunno if it's common among streamers of of fighting games, but they should think about showing their hands with a second camera during play sessions, it's probably the only genre were I would find that interesting
Trials are fun in the sense that puzzles are fun. Sometimes it can be fun trying to figure it out.
But they're terrible for actually learning the game at any meaningful level outside of a few exceptions.
It BAFFLES me that allowing users to upload their own trials of bnbs and such for others to try isn't a standard. They need to seriously get on it. I think Them's Fighting Herds is the only modern fighter I know of that lets you do this.
It's pretty common, or having an input viewer shown.
But they're terrible for actually learning the game at any meaningful level outside of a few exceptions.
It BAFFLES me that allowing users to upload their own trials of bnbs and such for others to try isn't a standard. They need to seriously get on it. I think Them's Fighting Herds is the only modern fighter I know of that lets you do this.
It's pretty common, or having an input viewer shown.
EX2 trials felt nearly impossible. Fighting Layers has a little spice to it as well.
KOF XIII trials are on another level. I'm not some execution monster but I can complete most characters trials in KOF XIV. I haven't completed ANY character trials in XIII, and not for lack of trying.
This thread inspired me to see if I could still do my Raiden max mode combo.
Took a while, but I still remembered after a looong time not playing KOF XIII. I think something like this was in Raiden's combo trials, but I forget exactly.
The combo trials are definitely super hard in KOF XIII. I don't think I ever completed a single character's trials.
Took a while, but I still remembered after a looong time not playing KOF XIII. I think something like this was in Raiden's combo trials, but I forget exactly.
The combo trials are definitely super hard in KOF XIII. I don't think I ever completed a single character's trials.
In Guilty Gear Xrd, some moves don't connect unless you use hidden extra stuff like randomly dashing for a fraction of a second right before using the next move in a long combo.
The move trial mode never tells this to you, and the small dash in the execution presentation is nearly impossible to see!
The move trial mode never tells this to you, and the small dash in the execution presentation is nearly impossible to see!
Yeah, I just laughed when I saw some of the trials and just moved on. Knew there was no way in hell I was going to complete even most of those. Love XIII to pieces though, such a good feeling fighter.
Also remember that KoFXIII is much much easier in execution than 2002UM. Playing the latter when they did the rollback update made me realize that.
Ah, another misconception I see here. KoF is not linked based, it's chain based, just not very lenient. The true links are not that common and very character dependant. There are many many target combos in it.
Ah, another misconception I see here. KoF is not linked based, it's chain based, just not very lenient. The true links are not that common and very character dependant. There are many many target combos in it.
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Kof 13 also has no input leniency or at least very little compared to a lot modern fighters.
I'm specifically referring to cancel windows once the opponent is in Hit Stun or Block Stun and the Attacker is in Start-up/Active/Recovery frames of their offensive moves and unable to do anything other than transition into another move. Something as simple as being able to hold the input direction to press the follow-up button instead of resetting to normal and inputing the cancel fresh would make a huge difference in making chains less complicated.
There's a button hold for specials and supers but I think it's just 4 frames iirc.
Usually they'd be modified in a way to be easier/more consistent because a number of them are just kinda difficult for the sake of being difficult.
Can't really say for other platforms, but one of my favorite things as a designer is looking at global achievements on Steam.
Steam Community :: THE KING OF FIGHTERS XIII STEAM EDITION :: Achievements
2.5%
Complete all trials for 1 character in Trial mode
And that is just for 1 character!
Sometimes adding a dash, super jump or something else make the combo easier in Xrd even if it's not necessary to land the combo, I believe if a dash is required the game does include it in the combo though(in Xrd Rev at least, can't remember if Sign did that too). Still, if there's a dash in the execution presentation it should be easy to tell since the dash's cloud of dust special effect comes out even if the dash is canceled immediately.
The timing isn't strict at all in most of the trails, game is one of the most lenient when it comes to special moves timing, which is what makes those combos so much fun, you just need to know about the KoF button hold buffer, check this out:
Can't really say for other platforms, but one of my favorite things as a designer is looking at global achievements on Steam.
Steam Community :: THE KING OF FIGHTERS XIII STEAM EDITION :: Achievements
steamcommunity.com
2.5%
That should do it!
Complete all trials for 1 character in Trial mode
And that is just for 1 character!
Probably a hacked save game
Clark Trials are easy to do since his HD combos dont require many moves and have a lot of time to do cancels
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So Justin's channel has uploaded other clips of him trying XIII trials.
Even Punk has been doing them too
I take it back. SF4 trials has nothing on KOF XIII
Even Punk has been doing them too
I take it back. SF4 trials has nothing on KOF XIII