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Kingdom Hearts 4 was revealed at the KH 20th Anniversary Event Game set in Quadratum (Verum Rex). No platforms announced.
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They can probably port FF7R character assets directly lol
since we got endor basically confirmed, I hope that instead of being with the main trio, we're with Rex's squad of rebels
I don't have the same kind of inside track on the KH/Disney/Square relationship as I used to (it's been years, I'm afraid), but the read I always got on the situation was that Disney likes the money KH brings in but has never been particularly interested in shepherding the series without Nomura and Square Enix at the helm. In the event Nomura suddenly and sharply retired from game development, I get the feeling KH would get back-burnered and then slowly disappear entirely. That was before Tai Yasue entered the picture, though. Either way, they have zero interest in forcefully seizing the franchise from Nomura and Square and making it on their own. It's more of a "we'll let you keep doing this as long as it keeps making us money" kind of thing.
That being said, there have been several initiatives by creatives within Disney over the years to "do something" with KH - an animated movie, a TV series, even a theme park attraction, etc - but they've always fallen through at various stages of early development for a myriad of reasons. Kind of like how Sora and KH Donald/Goofy were walkaround characters in the parks for extremely limited times and then got shunted off into being a request-only character for rich kid birthday parties for years. As far as I know even that's done now too.
TL;DR version: Disney at large has always viewed KH more as a curiosity that makes them money, rather than something they have aspirations of expanding into a million other forms of media by themselves.
I don't think this is a good idea since (as mentioned) they already pulled it in Chain of Memories, and more importantly losing that character relationship for a cheap "remake lol" joke just feels...kinda spiteful? KH Cloud is an actual character in the universe, he's not just a five-second cameo.
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would be hilarious if we get R2-D2 and C3PO style droid for Donald and Goofy
This would be exactly how I would do it, yeah. Make Donald a permanently-angry astromech and Goofy a protocol droid.
I bet the team at Lucasfilm would have a blast with that assignment.
Actually having Han, Luke, and Leia would be incredible, though. Like, Disney movies are iconic but thatd be a bit beyond what KH has done before, that would be like a LOTR world where the whole Fellowship is your party.
I 'hope' the only big loss for brand rules is that you lose Leia/Han when you go to the Death Star to fight Vader. It would be pretty fun if we got a co-protagonist so the game could replicate the multiple battle threads of Endor, though (Sora/Luke v Vader, Kairi/Donald/Goofy/Leia/Han versus giant Heartless Shield Generator, Riku/Lando flying the gummi Falcon).
That's why it would be perfect, because it's not really Cloud. It would reinforce the idea that Sora has ended up in a whole new world, with whole new rules.
Gonk is like Stitch/Beast and escapes Star Wars world to explore the Multiverse.
Pretty much. Let them go wild and crazy, something like the lingering will fight. Or Sephiroth.
if anything, I was down on KH3 because it wasn't dumb enough
there's a reason why the woody and sully scenes became hugely popular on the internet- the rest of the game was just doing nothing until the rushed climax
I was about to stop you, but you mentioned it yourself. That "gameplay" was on a completely different engine and prior to essentially restarting development. And that "gameplay" was clearly pre rendered and not very indicative of the final product in terms of Sora's movement and animation. The movement we see for KH4 is in engine and doesn't seem any more complex than the movement we see from KH3.
I don't know shit about Star Wars, so I've just been politely nodding and thinking "I know some of these words" for the last page or so , lol
Same. Only Star Wars media I consumed was Star Wars Force Unleashed on PS2 and Soul Calibur IV. I'm just in for the lightsaber keyblade and Darth Vader boss fight lol.
Only thing I know about Star Wars comes from the anime one shots that were on Disney plus
Great, cannot take anymore "NORT'd LOL" tweests/characters.
Too bad I have not touched any of the mobile/browser stuff, gonna wing it as far as plot goes.
We are all expecting our keyblade-lightsaber battle vs Vader, right? Like there you have a top5 videogame moment if it happens.
Also vs thanos? With the avengers?
Marvel and star wars fit too well thematically to not use them in this franchise.
Also vs thanos? With the avengers?
Marvel and star wars fit too well thematically to not use them in this franchise.
I don't think you could really do Thanos in KH without several games of buildup. If they do a Marvel world, it'll be an adaptation of ONE Marvel film or a completely new story starring some Marvel characters.
All I know about Star Wars is the anime anthology and general pop culture memes. I don't really care that it's in but I hope the world's fun. Xemnas basically used lightsabers already and he was the best final boss in all of video games back in 2 so that's cool
It'll be the first avengers movie, with loki summoning heartless instead of aliens.
Okay, how about this footage then (from just a couple of months later)? 😉
I honestly prefered the Luminous engine look... But we at least had some real footage by then. I'll stop jinxing it now! 😆
The more I look at that last scene in the trailer, the more I think Hades wasn't actually who Donald and Goofy were looking for in the underworld, especially considering their reaction to him popping up.
By this logic, Toy Story and Monsters Inc shouldn't be in KH.
Disney is Disney. And there's no more requested IPs to put in the game than Marvel and Star Wars.
I think there's no real point in fussing over 'scripted' gameplay, because frankly KH3 shows that this trailer is likely to be extremely indicative of the final thing. It's more likely they rigged it for the trailer's flow than it is that they rigged it because there's no actual gameplay yet lol
Cautiously, I would honestly say you will lose or gain nothing from winging it because they're doing a great job integrating it back to the console games:
I said this earlier in the thread too, but honestly KH3 (and so far KH4 based on Strelitzia's portrayal) seems to basically assume that you don't know the mobile stuff (outside of Back Cover/The Foretellers, which obviously got the movie) as all the mobile stuff in both so far have been pseudo-introductions on their own anyways. The important stuff was shown in KH3 as if it was new (The black box, why it was important, etc).
I mean that in that it doesn't really matter if you know who the characters are already from playing Union Cross, because the game is still treating them as a mystery to Sora and friends. The journal even calls Ephemer "?" and you knowing or not knowing who he is doesn't affect KH3's story or your grasp on it.
People overblow how much you need to know about UX and its kin to understand what's going on with KH3 and onwards because "if you didnt play the mobile game you wouldn't know who this is" but... knowing who they are is the only reason they think that, you lose nothing by not knowing. It still flows the same and hits the same beats.
Cautiously, I would honestly say you will lose or gain nothing from winging it because they're doing a great job integrating it back to the console games:
I said this earlier in the thread too, but honestly KH3 (and so far KH4 based on Strelitzia's portrayal) seems to basically assume that you don't know the mobile stuff (outside of Back Cover/The Foretellers, which obviously got the movie) as all the mobile stuff in both so far have been pseudo-introductions on their own anyways. The important stuff was shown in KH3 as if it was new (The black box, why it was important, etc).
I mean that in that it doesn't really matter if you know who the characters are already from playing Union Cross, because the game is still treating them as a mystery to Sora and friends. The journal even calls Ephemer "?" and you knowing or not knowing who he is doesn't affect KH3's story or your grasp on it.
People overblow how much you need to know about UX and its kin to understand what's going on with KH3 and onwards because "if you didnt play the mobile game you wouldn't know who this is" but... knowing who they are is the only reason they think that, you lose nothing by not knowing. It still flows the same and hits the same beats.
Yeah, as much as I don't care for either to be in this series, both are pretty clearly in the same space Toy Story was a bit over a decade ago where they're fair game thanks to acquisitions and easily the most requested properties to appear.
I don't know who else there is with a fire motif and who shifts from blue to red. Also, the voice actor.
Why wouldn't Donald and Goofy be freaked out to see Hades shift to Angry Mode when they don't have Sora with them in case of a fight?
I didn't say that wasn't Hades, I said that might not be who they were looking for.
This is fairly old, and for a different series, but Lucasfilm were kinda strict when it came to Disney Infinity 3.0
I think it has already started for some time now with the mobile game. I'm really hoping they make this game as a real "new" arc and don't make it mandatory for people to know what went on in Unchained X, Union X, Dark Road and (now) Missing Link.
Press kit mentioning Strelitzia is a "new character" gives me hope.
I forgot this was a thing. Actually, I think Square (developer, not publisher) is one of the few devs where games end up looking better at release than the first teasers/gameplays shown.
This is fairly old, and for a different series, but Lucasfilm were kinda strict when it came to Disney Infinity 3.0
Funny, Vader can jog in Battlefront 2, not full on running but certainly not walking.
Maybe they eased a bit?
That is 100% the press not knowing their KH shit.
More or less, yeah. I think FFXV was the only real exception to that rule.
I remember the hilarious backlash to what was obviously an unpolished build of KH 0.2 at E3 a few years back.
So that's why the opening level to Force Unleashed was so slow. Guy can't even run 🤣This is fairly old, and for a different series, but Lucasfilm were kinda strict when it came to Disney Infinity 3.0
I mean Vader never runs in the movies. That's kind of his thing.
Full gauntlet Thanos superboss where the Snap is a cinematic counter move (like Xigbar's draw) that's his DM and if you fail it's a 50% chance of KO and the other 50% is you survive he's weakened from the snap, if you succeed it continues like normal
It's BS from a design standpoint but I don't think anyone could ACTUALLY be mad
It's BS from a design standpoint but I don't think anyone could ACTUALLY be mad
This is fairly old, and for a different series, but Lucasfilm were kinda strict when it came to Disney Infinity 3.0
Seems like they've eased up since, given Battlefront and some other LEGO stuff.
KH4 didn't end up looking like that because the game's general art direction changed overtime. If they wanted it to look like the prototypes did, they would've done that.
Vader's like a horror movie villain. He can run but chooses not to because whoever he's after is already dead.
chained? It's likely for starters, that while Disney owns the IP, they have an extensive exclusive partnership and licence for producing games and merchandise around Kingdom Hearts, and they are respecting that Nomura and Square are the reason the games are happening.
It's likely not possible for Disney to cut Square out and give Kingdom Hearts to another dev outside SE despite owning the IP and they likely don't want to do it without Nomura's auteur vision behind it (not a judgment on whether Nomura's story etc.... is good/bad or otherwise, just that its a singular vision), its not like these games are being churned out like Pokemon or something. I'm sure someone else at Square could direct KH with Nomura as creative director/producer etc...
It's not. Square actually has a history of presenting more polished versions of their games than what we get at release because of optimization.
Nomura isn't chained to anything. He straight up loves this series and Disney's films. Hell he even prefers retelling the story of the movies over creating original stories for the worlds.
Sure, in a movie that's fine, but in a game with player agency it just comes off silly.