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Kim Swift is specifically going to help Hideo Kojima make his Xbox game.
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is xcloud a bigger platform than playstation now already? that can't be right.
you see though, 'xbox exclusive' implies a game that won't come to sony or nintendo. Hope that helps.
soooooo let me get this straight.
According to the article they haven't even clinched a deal with kojima but they hired kim swift specifically to help out Kojima with his theoretical game?
make it make sense.
According to the article they haven't even clinched a deal with kojima but they hired kim swift specifically to help out Kojima with his theoretical game?
make it make sense.
While I wouldn't be confident in proclaiming that Xcloud has more time streamed than PlayStation Now (largely because neither company provides that sort of numbers), which I can confidently state is I believe there are more Game Pass Ultimate subscribers than there are PS Now subscribers.
This does happen sometimes. Like it's a pre-deal sweetener to indicate that one party is committed to the idea.
Even so, the article itself doesn't read that way. It reads like Kim would help with all cloud solutions, including whatever the theoretical Kojima project (or any other cloud-heavy projects) might require.
You really need to get off whatever armchair psychologist BS this is. If you don't agree with the substance of an argument that's fine, but don't patronize.
I don't know Jeff Grubb, may you do, but I know Jeff Grubb has recently undercut the reveals/announcements/demonstrations of
-Guardians of The Galaxy
-Halo's Multiplayer modes
-BOTW 2 Trailer
-Elding Ring re-reveal
and pending confirmation...
-Alan Wake Remake
- Dead Space sequel
It doesn't really matter how much he holds close to his chest when he's leaking out announcements at a higher clip than anyone else. He also was wrong about Scarlett Nexus being on gamepass, which I think is detrimental to to developer, so maybe not as considerate or measured as you think.
I just don't see a lot of value in most of the above while being a clear trend.
So, Kojima was reportedly in discussions with Stadia about making an exclusive for them, taking advantage of Stadia's cloud exclusive nature. At the time, I believe Kim Swift was in charge of external developer relationships for Stadia's first party studios, so likely was heavily involved in crafting the deal. Deal got as far as executive approval, Phil Harrison shot it down, and shortly afterwards Stadia first party got shuttered.
Fast forward a year or so, Kojipro kept themselves busy with Death Stranding Director's Cut, Xbox has been expanding their cloud gaming services and publicly commenting on the idea of cloud only games. Then, Phil Spencer puts Lumens on his Shelf of Spoilers, and now Xbox hires Kim Swift to effectively be in charge of external party relationships for Xbox's cloud streaming platform. It's all kinda conspicuous when you lay it all out.
He can make multiple games on multiple platforms so chances are you'll get one out of the 3 and it will have your dual sense.
Playstation Now only has like 2.5 million subscribers as of a few months ago if I remember correctly. xCloud isn't it's own thing yet but is a beta attached to Game Pass Ultimate, which also doesn't have numbers attached to it. That being said though, Game Pass as a whole has at least 18 million subscribers (as of Jan 1, 2021) and as long as more than 2.5 million of those subs are on Ultimate (which is likely, given the conversions) then xCloud has a theoretically higher userbase. Add in the fact that the game is almost certainly several years away, xCloud will almost certainly have had considerable growth to have a large userbase
There's also talks to be had about how Microsoft is prioritizing the cloud (having a timeline for upgraded server blades, plans to make xCloud it's own entry point into Xbox, likely a cloud only tier when xCloud leaves beta etc) over Playstation and also enabling potential cloud only games to be made under the Xbox banner as well, which would make partnering with Xbox over Playstation for a cloud game a non-starter.
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They all do it. When Starfield trailer leaked Jason was retweeting it. Then when asked why is he doing that he replied something along the line is that it's his job.
did jeff grubb do something shitty or something? why does this thread read so hostile towards him?
that's different in that Jason didn't leak that himself.
and now we're leaking business negotiations for something that may/may not happen?
He has a lot of xbox news, which makes the playstation people on here not like him. Really not much more than that.
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That makes sense.
Honestly i'm gritting my teeth over an xbox kojima exclusive but as long as it comes out day and date with the xbox version on pc and is available on game pass i'm good
*shrugs*
The deal is in the process of getting signed, sealed, and delivered. It won't be officially announced until after that's done. If it doesn't get done, it won't be officially announced.
that's it huh lol. so I guess shades of how jason schreier is treated on here
people need to chill
Fanboys are gonna fanboy.
I do think he's got contacts at Xbox, and I do think he does get fed pro-Xbox news a lot. Sometimes he gets bad info (Xbox Gold going free being the highest profile example, and I recall him making a couple of Starfield related statements that wound up being wrong). However, I do acknowledge that he's been correct way more times than he's been wrong, and he did call pretty much everything from the E3 showcase in advance and Microsoft reviving Kojima's Stadia proposal as their flagship cloud-only or cloud-first game does make a lot of sesne to me.
I see, but that doesn't mean he can't create other games for other companies. Just because he makes a game with one company doesn't mean he can't make another game for another company at the same time lol.
Game Pass certainly is a larger platform than Playstation Now is by over 7x the number of active subscribers.
On cloud users specifically, the numbers are a bit less clear. The Sony Investor Relations presentation we saw last month indicated that cloud streaming represented approximately 40% of the total playtime for PS Now users as of 3/2021. It is hard to ascertain the specific number of cloud customers, however. For the purposes of this discussion, let us assume that there are exclusively cloud-only users and download-only users - consequently, we could estimate that there are roughly 1.3 million cloud users of PS Now.* I have not been able to find discrete statistics on cloud users of xCloud beyond the beta for Android - but even then, Xbox was declaring that they had hundreds of thousands of users. That figure has no doubt grown since the formal launch, aswell as the iOS + Desktop beta releases. And considering the sheer size of the Game Pass subscription base (more specifically, the Ultimate subscription base), it is hard to believe that a few million have not even just tried a streaming version of a title through the Game Pass app.
* This is obviously very rough napkin math here - but I think it helps to demonstrate that there is a clear discrepancy in scale of platform and serious interest between the two competitors here.
Regardless, I think access to potential users is the more important criteria here. Xbox Game Pass (and its xCloud capabilities) will soon be accessible across Console, PC, and Mobile (Android & iPhone), of which the latter makes for a noticeably more comprehensive platform than the current suite of PS Now access options.
Wait what? A Cloud only game?
I wonder if he's using the Cloud medium specifically to do something that can't be done on local consoles. It'd make sense that Sony would pass on such a project in that case.
For those doubting Jeff Grubb's reliability, this Reddit thread has a massive list of all his leaks that he got right and wrong.
Jeff Grubb has a response in the comments that's worth reading. From the list, it's pretty clear that the stuff he got "wrong" was almost always a case of something being delayed internally.
Jeff Grubb has a response in the comments that's worth reading. From the list, it's pretty clear that the stuff he got "wrong" was almost always a case of something being delayed internally.
If he is making an xbox exclusive it's likely there is nothing else in the development pipeline for kojima productions for the forseeable future. They aren't THAT big of a studio and historically they work on one game for a very long time. There were literally 2 games from him the entire last generation. Actually the last 2 generations as MGSV was technically a ps3/xbox360 game.
So 'he can make other games' kind of ignores the fact that they likely will not be doing that lol
I am not ignoring logistical capabilities, but its absolutely true that he can sign multiple deals to work with different companies at the same time. I would not be surprised if he was doing multiple projects with different companies at various points.
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Yes, MS for sure is investing a lot more in cloud gaming and it will for sure overtake it when xcloud is fully rolled out on macs, ios, etc.
Yes it is technically true, in theory that kojima could be producing 2 large AAA games at the same time. Technically, that is possible as much as any ridiculously unlikely thing is possible. Well done, have a great day.
Why are you so mad? Please explain why the fact that he could be potentially working with Xbox but still could be doing other projects a problem.
"Cloud game"?
So whatever that Stadia thing that fell through was, I guess?
Eh...
Why would they need to be "large AAA games" though?
So whatever that Stadia thing that fell through was, I guess?
Eh...
Why would they need to be "large AAA games" though?
We have reached a new low when insiders are complaining about a missed tease opportunity.
Im super excited to play whatever's this game turns out to be. I'm guessing MS is gonna give him whatever he needs.
Im super excited to play whatever's this game turns out to be. I'm guessing MS is gonna give him whatever he needs.
I don't think that that Twitter about Kim Swift is saying that she's gonna help with cloud-only games. It's saying that she's gonna help implementing games on the cloud? So, like, any game that have xCloud support, running on a cloudy Series X. So this isn't a cloud only game.
Because that is the only thing Kojima has ever made outside of like....a handful of games? would you also speculate that the next naughty dog or bethesda studios produced title might be a small indie, just to win points in a pedantic argument on the internet?
Nothing's official yet. However, I would be shocked if there isn't a downloadable Xbox Series version of Kojima Production's next game (after Death Stranding Director's Cut).
What interesting feature-set did Stadia point out again for 'cloud native' games? Infinite multi-screen (but why? and isn't that extremely costly in terms of running hardware, especially if only singular player). Physics on a massive-scale? State-sharing? Advantages was mostly multiplayer-related conditions I believe.
Microsoft Flight simulator is probably the most proper use of 'cloud native' tech (streaming ever-changing live content). Maybe Kojima is making the ultimate strand/hiking simulator.
Microsoft Flight simulator is probably the most proper use of 'cloud native' tech (streaming ever-changing live content). Maybe Kojima is making the ultimate strand/hiking simulator.
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