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Kevin Feige says it’s high time for a Southeast Asian superhero and you won’t have to wait very long
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They aren't Southeast Asian.
It feels nice though. It's nice to have a Disney Princess with Southeast Asian heritage with the movie also revolving around the cultures, and using bits and pieces for inspiration. Just like how Moana felt good for a demographic.
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Yeah, I hope it will be an Agents of Atlas show, as opposed to a straight up Wave series, since there's not quite enough material, or else Marvel Studios would have to come up with something themselves. But an Agents of Atlas show would be cool and bring in many more Asian heroes.
Meh, I don't even think they got the culture right. The outfits are downright insulting and they look like they were designed by a white dude whose only experience with our "heritage" is a weekend in Bali.
Wake me up when we see some real SEA diversity in their casting. Until then, consider me unimpressed. It's not even Crazy Rich Asians bad. This is Just Cause/Zoolander bad lol.
Okay does the Third (or is he the second) Thunderbird count, as he's Indian, I'm trying to remember his name. He's a mutant though. But he'd be an interesting choice to use, though do they keep the code name or not?
ITT every Asian country is South East Asia lol.
Please educate yourself before commenting :p
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Please educate yourself before commenting :p
Southeast Asia - Wikipedia
I was excited about a Thai marvel hero and they just turned out to be a rejected Dynasty Warrior character. So boring.It's gonna be Wave, she's the only notable Southeast Asian Marvel hero... unless Kevin Feige is insane enough to introduce these guys in the MCU.
Love the rest of the crews style though.
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Added a Variety source as well:
variety.com
Disney Plus Teases Content Bonanza Ahead of Singapore Streaming Launch
The Disney Plus streaming service is set to launch later in February in Singapore with a welter of new content from six studio brands.
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How Popular are some of the other asian characters in asia/SE asia? Like Luna Snow? I know mobile games are big in Asia, not sure SE Asia.
Yo, it's kind of wild how hilariously messed up/confused some folks' sense of geography is within this thread. lol
India is not usually included as SE Asian countries. But still good for representation tho
Fast-tracking Wave was not something I was anticipating but my folks would absolutely love it.
Assuming her because there's (unfortunately) not anyone else worth a damn Marvel-wise from SEA.
Assuming her because there's (unfortunately) not anyone else worth a damn Marvel-wise from SEA.
What's stopping Feige/Marvel Studios from creating a new character for the MCU? I'm surprised they haven't started doing this already especially in cases where there aren't a lot of viable picks out there in the comics.
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Mobile games are super popular. Philippines is the country that are texting the most in the world. Mobile is hugely popular, probably in all of Southeast Asia. And Luna Snow must have an audience since they got some pretty popular singers to do her music videos.
Since the lead-in question was about Raya and the Last Dragon, plus the fact that if he was talking about an already-announced property one assumes he would have specifically namechecked them, I would say/hope he's probably not confused about what Southeast Asia entails.
Yeah it is:
Shang Chi - Chinese
Aero - Chinese
Sword Man - Chinese
Luna Snow - Korean
White Fox - Korean
Silk - Korean American
Brawn - Korean American
Crescent and Io - Korean
Wave - Filipna
I'd love the idea of a video game Marvel character debuting in the MCU just to see people say "this character came from a free-to-play mobile game".
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking, too. Jimmy Woo being in San Fransisco was already pretty telling for me that we're going to be seeing Agents of Atlas. A Shang Chi sequel that features the Agents of Atlas would make for a Civil War style sequel.
I'm not going to judge The Warriors of the Sky until I've seen them debut in the comics, the comics gave Crescent and Io and Luna Snow some pretty awesome characterisation.
Sri Lanka is in South Asia alongside India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Bhutan, Maldives and Nepal.
South Asia - Wikipedia
They've technically already done that with Agent Coulson. Hope Van Dyne and Kingo are so far removed from their comic origins that they're arguably original Marvel Studios characters, too.
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the group is Korean obviously but...
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_(rapper)
Also just in general excited for the MCU to get more diverse it's taken a long time but with Black Panther and Captain Marvel in the last couple of years and Shang Chi and Ms. Marvel coming up we are finally getting some much needed non White dude lead superheroes.
I don't think anyone has fully listed the region yet so SEA is made up of
- Brunei
- Cambodia
- Indonesia
- Laos
- Malaysia
- Myanmar
- Phillipines
- Singapore
- Thailand
- Vietnam
- East Timor
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A lot of people on this very thread are confused, so there's a good chance Feige confused it as well.
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Nah, no chance in hell he's confused. He was specifically asked about Southeast Asian representation. If there's anything the entire Marvel Studios board should be well educated in it's representation. It's their whole thing:
People here are confused. There's a chance he's confused as well and is referring to Ms. Marvel and Shang Chi. We have seen no indication of SE Asians coming before this interview. Hope I'm wrong, but I think there's more than one chance in hell that he was thinking about these two which would still be in line with his quote on the window outside being the Marvel Universe.
That's a funny quote to me though. I understand what he meant, but my first thought was what if I live in a shitty area and my window is full of prostitutes, pimps, and drug dealers lol.
It's gonna be Wave, she's the only notable Southeast Asian Marvel hero... unless Kevin Feige is insane enough to introduce these guys in the MCU.
No idea who the hell they are, but they look cool as shit, give me a D+ show with this team now.
Southeast Asia... so Ireland, right?
Seriously, though, it's wild that there's such a hole for Marvel heroes from that region considering how crucial it was to America in the 60s and 70s with the Vietnam War. Anything south of China and north of Australia was pretty much ignored until the last 15 years or so.
Seriously, though, it's wild that there's such a hole for Marvel heroes from that region considering how crucial it was to America in the 60s and 70s with the Vietnam War. Anything south of China and north of Australia was pretty much ignored until the last 15 years or so.
"You think you're the only one out here carrying the weight of the world on your back?"
I know right. The amount of disrespect shown in this very thread shows just that. Came into this thread feeling good only for it to be ruined by a lot of ignorant individuals.
SAPPY JAPPY? Oh BROTHER...Jesus Christ. I just looked up "Namor Asian"
Goddamn. War time comics were vile.
That's why I'd really like to see the original video for full context. There was that time when people thought Feige confirmed there would be a trans character in Eternals: https://variety.com/2020/film/news/marvel-trans-character-superhero-kevin-feige-1203455563/
But the studio had to walk it back and clarify that he meant LGBT+ in the broader sense. I guess Kevin missed the part about trans characters, specifically, and I do wonder if he might've misunderstood or misspoke in this case as well.
Gimme Aero, Luna, Wave, Quake, and Magma (I know she's not Asian in the comics, but I just want all of the classical elements represented, lol). Have Jimmy Woo and/or Melinda May as their handlers. Seriously, I wish Feige would integrate AoS more into the MCU proper. It was insane that a network show had not one, but two prominent Asian-American leads.
And since the original question was related to Raya, I'd love if Kelly Marie Tran got cast a Vietnamese superhero. That'd give her the trifecta of Star Wars/Disney/Marvel roles, just like Ming-Na. It's too bad Mantis is already taken and changed so much from her comics origin. The only other possibility that comes to mind is Karma.
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I don't get these posts trying to explain it away with a misunderstanding. They're setting up Jimmy Woo, Shang-Chi and there's been heavy rumors of Agents of Atlas for a while, and a look at Atlantis in Eternals and eventual arrival of Namor. There's reason to believe they're building toward it, especially with them wanting to represent a big part of the world. One way to do that is to introduce a black lead, a woman lead, a Muslim teenager, and a Chinese kung-fu master. A Filipina ocean hero is not far away from that, to represent yet another corner of the world. Is it suddenly too hard to believe when we get more specific with the regions, adding Southeast Asian representation. There's a huge market right there untapped.
I would like to watch a video too, but I've been looking around and it's not there. Apparently nobody recorded it when the interview was live.
I would like to watch a video too, but I've been looking around and it's not there. Apparently nobody recorded it when the interview was live.
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His American-Pakistani. Pakistan is South Asia... and he's in Eternals this November.
Crap I misread, I'm racist 🤢 gotta stop trying to read and comment on threads in the 30s between Splatoon matches
See all the blue parts of the map? That's where Atlantis is.
Seriously though. Atlantis has towns, villages and cities all over the oceans. The capital itself started being somewhere off the coast of Antarctica but even that has moved multiple times.
Purely anecdotal but most white people I know (in the US) think China/Japan/Korea are part of SEA, unless they are serious travelers.
For the most part you're not wrong and I don't really have a good answer against it - the MCU has really become its own thing and Marvel's love of brand synergy guarantees whatever happens in the MCU will make it's way to the mainline comics.
I just can't help but find it personally weird as a long-time comic fan who ultimately cherishes the MCU as an adaptation of said comics to suddenly just open the floodgates for creating things entirely out of whole cloth. Like, even the characters that have been created have generally either minor/secondary characters or made as replacement adaptations of existing characters. It's just not a barrier I wanna cross yet especially when there's still so much stuff that hasn't been adapted yet.
And on that note:
It is honestly really depressing that of these characters (members of the Asian-focused Agents of Atlas, for the record) all but Wave are either Chinese or South Korean, all but Shang-Chi and Brawn were created within the last 10 years (and Amadeus Cho only became Brawn fairly recently), and that most were created mainly by Chinese/Korean video game developers looking to pad out for mobile games.
And before one goes "what about Big Hero 6" word on the grapevine is that they're off-limits, they're entirely Disney now, Marvel gave them up.
Point all being, god damn does Marvel need to get better at this.
