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Kentucky attorney general announces charges against 1 officer in Breonna Taylor murder (3 counts of wanton endangerment, nothing on other officers)
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From what I understand, Hankison did a desk pop while the other cops murdered Breonna Taylor.
Literally, charges for putting other apartment occupants in danger with bullets, no charges for shooting anyone in that particular apartment.
What happens when the majority of voters want to keep things the way they are? Should we just keep adding more bodies on the pile?
I am too. I'm trying to concentrate on work but I fucking can't right now. The hate and rage I have for this country only grows...
I've read reports of more witnesses claiming that there wasn't any knocking and that they just breached. There's definitely a good case for manslaughter. Laws absolutely need to be updated.
Absolutely not...not saying that voting is going to solve everything.
Grand Jury apparently had no evidence of that, and because of Kentucky's fucked up laws...it doesn't really matter if they did...they were a no-knock state. Should have been more than just manslaughter...again, though, I just have no idea how the hell you would get a conviction with the lack of evidence and way the law works in Kentucky.
EDIT: Does sound like the warrant WAS changed prior to the operation to require the knock. Nevertheless, if they even had one witness to say they heard and saw knocking...it would have been extraordinarily difficult to convict on anything above what was put forth. No justice was found today.
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"No officers charged directly in Breonna Taylor's death; 1 faces 3 counts over shooting into neighboring apartments."
Can't copy the tweet on my phone but that's the headline the AP used and it's probably the best way to write the headline. Would be nice if the OP title got updated to something like that.
I work outside of the city but a lot of folks here commute from downtown. None of us are really surprised, but it still hits pretty hard. The wait is only going to make things worse. Unlike a lot of these cases, the law (as fucked up as it is) should've made this decision quick for them.
Can't copy the tweet on my phone but that's the headline the AP used and it's probably the best way to write the headline. Would be nice if the OP title got updated to something like that.
I work outside of the city but a lot of folks here commute from downtown. None of us are really surprised, but it still hits pretty hard. The wait is only going to make things worse. Unlike a lot of these cases, the law (as fucked up as it is) should've made this decision quick for them.
Why wouldn't he get into the racial makeup of the grand jury? Seems an odd thing to omit if things were on the up and up.
I mean you know why. He thinks because he's black that's how he's gonna smooth over this bullshit.
How is that pretty solid when the charges against him aren't even for killing Breonna? Hell even going to jail for what he's been charged with isn't guaranteed either with how jurors treat police.
What are the chances that the feds will hold someone accountable for issuing the warrant in the first place? If they are justifying the shooting by saying the guy shot at police first, can they go after them because they shouldn't have been there to begin with?
Before I log out for the night (because fuck this) if it hasn't already been said in this thread, wanton endangerment Charge doesn't even mention Taylor. It's for the neighbors. So, no justice at all.
Idk, I love Louisville but this is just trash. I expected it but I didn't want to hear it. Night
Idk, I love Louisville but this is just trash. I expected it but I didn't want to hear it. Night
Grand Jury probably didn't have evidence of that because the prosecutor didn't bring it forward.
The USA has been broken for a long, long time and each and every blatant injustice hurts a little more. Never let yourself become numb to it.
That town will suffer tonight and I can't blame a single angry soul.
That town will suffer tonight and I can't blame a single angry soul.
I think there's a pretty healthy movement in Louisville itself for reforming things, but Louisville's maybe 30% tops of Kentucky so politically they can't change Kentucky State Law without a bigger coalition. Louisville's pretty diverse but Kentucky's actually a whiter state than Indiana.
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You have to be able to prove the cops did something illegal. On the books against the law. The law as it stood at the time that they killed Breonna allows cops to barge into your home in the middle of the night and shoot you dead. That's fucked up. But if it's legal to do so... what charges do you file against the officers? Bullshit stuff like wanton endangerment.
That's why protests are important--if the law is the problem (it is, the problem is systemic, not the 'bad apple' cops), then we need to put pressure until the law changes.
no justice in this godforsaken country
i guess we'll just have to deal with more brothers and sisters getting murdered. what else is america but a miserable pile of lies built up to protect and sustain the privileged in society. i guess they let a few more into the 1%ers club compared to feudalism. enough that people are okay with it.
i guess we'll just have to deal with more brothers and sisters getting murdered. what else is america but a miserable pile of lies built up to protect and sustain the privileged in society. i guess they let a few more into the 1%ers club compared to feudalism. enough that people are okay with it.
This is probably true...I'm saying though...if there was even one witness that says they knocked and announced their presence...this case would have been near impossible to prosecute under current Kentucky law.
Yes.
If you have many witnesses that say otherwise, it would matter. If 20, as an example, say they didn't and one said they did, it's not an instant get out of jail free card. Though, I'm sure it still wouldn't have mattered to the Grand Jury nor is the law on the books correct.
Hold me to a better account than it seems this AG has done to police y'all, but am I getting the order of events right here?
- No knock warrant the wrong fucking house
- Dude with a gun permit defends himself to unannounced/non-uniform police
- Calls 911 after this fact (stating this because we know certain media will try and claim self-defence was done by "a thug" and we know what the fuck that means)
- Dude defending himself and Taylor gets put in jail and one of the pleas he gets from police is to say Taylor was secretly part of the drug raid they went to the wrong house over
- The Real Problem was that cops being John Woo put people outside of the wrong home they raided at risk was that they put nearby people through walls at risk
Did I miss anything here? If the above is true and there's no missing details, I find it hard to object to the rage that local community is about to have about all of this.
- No knock warrant the wrong fucking house
- Dude with a gun permit defends himself to unannounced/non-uniform police
- Calls 911 after this fact (stating this because we know certain media will try and claim self-defence was done by "a thug" and we know what the fuck that means)
- Dude defending himself and Taylor gets put in jail and one of the pleas he gets from police is to say Taylor was secretly part of the drug raid they went to the wrong house over
- The Real Problem was that cops being John Woo put people outside of the wrong home they raided at risk was that they put nearby people through walls at risk
Did I miss anything here? If the above is true and there's no missing details, I find it hard to object to the rage that local community is about to have about all of this.
Effectively yes, this has nothing to do with Breonna's case right now. He's said multiple times, the cops did nothing wrong, she just happened to get killed and all they can do is toss their hands in the air and forget about it.
But all it really does is raise further questions. It does not put the issue to bed. It only magnifies it. No way to smooth that omission now. It is a scab that is going to be picked at until the truth is revealed.
Let the motherfucker burn, and start with city hall. No justice no peace.
If it wasn't already clear that cops can murder innocent, unarmed civilians with impunity then here is yet another case. Ms. Taylor rests in peace with no justice to be found against her white murderers. Meanwhile, they wanted to bring down everything against her boyfriend who shot back not knowing that police had failed to identify themselves and still started blasting away in a mistaken home.
If it wasn't already clear that cops can murder innocent, unarmed civilians with impunity then here is yet another case. Ms. Taylor rests in peace with no justice to be found against her white murderers. Meanwhile, they wanted to bring down everything against her boyfriend who shot back not knowing that police had failed to identify themselves and still started blasting away in a mistaken home.
So the weapon used for protection can't be used for protection? What is this stupid shit?!
I mean yea, it's not going to work. That's just what he's going to use in the future to shield himself.
I'm white as hell, so I don't know if this is justified and someone please hit me if it's not, but him saying "Well... I'M Black, and I speak for everyone here" to dodge the question on the Grand Jury makeup felt so fucking sleazy to me. It gave me the same feeling as overhearing someone use the "Black friend" line.
Flipping around right now and MSNBC is thankfully bluntly headlining it as "No Officers Charged in Death of Breonna Taylor".
Flipping around right now and MSNBC is thankfully bluntly headlining it as "No Officers Charged in Death of Breonna Taylor".
- Ended up not being a no-knock warrant. Witness(es) said they heard the cops announce and knock. Cops involved were not involved in creation of warrant so legally not liable for the fact it was for the wrong house. (The warrant itself is under a separate and unfinished investigation)
- Kentucky law allows for cops to shoot back if fired upon. (Lack of evidence to prove otherwise)
Justice was not served, but there is no chance you would have been able to get a conviction under current law.
Not dismissing anything, just talking about the laws and how fucked up they are in relation to this case. The community (and everyone else) should be pissed as fuck.
Absolutely disgraceful reporting from the media.
Again, this is why there was a single charge. Now when Louisville burns, Cameron will go straight for the GOP talk circuit and play victim.
Am I to really believe the cops knocked repeatedly and loudly identified themselves as officers and dude's response was to get his gun and start an appartment shootout?
