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K-Pop ERA | OT2 | In Your Area

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Shizuka

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NameUser said:
Good riddance. They didn't need to stay around since they were bullying the other member. And that just sounds like a mess. A group managing themselves? 😳
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Not managing, but Pristin did most of the producing of their songs by themselves. Writing, composing, etc. Not because Pledis trusted them, but to cut costs.
 
Woozies

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NameUser said:
Good riddance. They didn't need to stay around since they were bullying the other member. And that just sounds like a mess. A group managing themselves? 😳
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The entire situation with ANS isn't clear at all. Especially since they're nugu. Like there's no real confirmation that they bullied her.

And their leaving the company doesn't have anything to do with it. Timeline doesn't add up.
 
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After School, Orange Caramel, Pledis Girlz/Pristin/Hinapia all deserved better than the shite outcomes they got.

Had briefly looked into Hinapia's company when the group formed and wasn't sure how financially stable they were, particularly since they're from another country with the added burden that can be.

Of course if Pledis had ever been able to competently manage any of their girl groups Hinapia as a project probably wouldn't have been needed.



crimzonflame said:
Wow they're actually singing in this too.
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Yeah, it would be nice if more companies released stage practice videos like this with actual vocals, along with the pure dance-focused dance practice videos.



less said:
Wow. Thanks for posting this. It's a lovely song and now I need to listen to her other songs. Any recs for some of her better songs?
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'24 Hours' is really the song that got her solo work its spotlight early on. As for non title songs, 'Frozen In Time' is one of the best Sunmi has ever released.

Wonder Girls were uncommonly good, and Sunmi is amazing.



Sunmi(선미) "24 hours(24시간이 모자라)" M/V


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Sunmi(선미) "24 hours(24시간이 모자라)" M/V Dance Ver.

Sunmi(선미) "24 hours(24시간이 모자라)" M/V Dance Ver. Download on iTunes : https://itunes.apple.com/album/24-hours-single/id693899794Sunmi Official Homepage: http:/...
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[ENG SUB] SunMi (선미) - Frozen In Time (멈춰버린 시간) Feat. Jackson of GOT7




Shizuka said:
Where's Everglow?
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Somewhere being great, and lucky enough to be under one of the non-Korean companies that's still solvent. Poor Hinapia...


[🔗CON:nected.live] EVERGLOW (에버글로우)가 다시 부르는 '이효리 - U-Go-Girl'｜커넥티드, 라이브, 이효리, EVERGLOW, 유고걸





[ENG SUB] [🔗CON:nected] Ep.3 에버글로우가 건치미소 OOO 선배님을 커버 해 보았다!｜커넥티드, 라이브, EVERGLOW, 이효리

 
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It was going to happen eventually after that March comeback was silently cancelled.
 
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Mirage said:
This is an interesting group.

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"Playfully named "Refund Expedition" after their image as strong women who would have no problem obtaining refunds" novelty track incoming (please prove me wrong)

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I crave new Hyori solo but I will take these crumbs gratefully
 
l2iv6

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that hinapia news is so genuinely upsetting I really wanted to get into them
 

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Relistening to ITZY's Not Shy mini-album, I think the real banger is song number 2, Don't Give a What.

woa-oa-oa-ooh
 
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Sadly confirmed now.
 

cubistic

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What is up with Bighit and the absurd autotune in BTS songs from the past 3 years. I literally can't distinguish individual words in Dynamite. Did Steve Aoki get them hooked on it? Literally ruining their main titles.
 
No No Eul

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I'm gutted to hear that Hinapia has disbanded. Somehow though, I have faith that if the will is still there, they'll return anew. They've done it once before. They can do it again.

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It's really worth reading the full statement released by the seven members of ANS. It's pretty compelling and certainly sheds some new light on the aforementioned accusations of bullying. It's just one side of the story of course, but having read it, I'm far more inclined to lay any blame at the feet of the company rather than the members.

What we believe is that the issue between us and the agency is related to the issue with Haena. Also, we believe that it's our responsibility to share with everyone about each of our personal stances and circumstances. Although it's something shameful, we want to share with you the current happenings and situations.

Our agency, ANS Entertainment had dismissed almost all of their staff once in March and once in April. They have dismissed the staff members who took care of us including our manager. Therefore, we were without any managers. On June 14th, the agency closed its office so we were without a company building. Also, we moved our boarding house from Shinsadong to Gimpo. Since then, we did not even have a practice studio. Because we were without a manager, we had to contact and plan our schedules ourselves. We also managed the fansites ourselves and acted like a staff was managing it. We were given one vehicle to travel in so some of our members had to travel via taxi.

Amidst all these situations, we held a fan meeting on June 20th. Just as all our fans know, there were minor and major mistakes and accidents. The fan meeting would have been a mess if it weren't for all the staff who were already dismissed but came to help us. This is something shameful but none of our members were able to receive any vocal lessons, and each of our members received only 10,000 KRW (~8 USD) per day for our meals. This wasn't even given to us during the weekends. In actuality, we did not receive any support or management. We had requested the agency for at least vocal lessons, but the agency rejected our request, stating they did not have the money for it.

Therefore, we hired a legal representative and sent a statement to the agency requesting them to follow through with the contract we have made – hiring a manager for the group, having a company office space, providing dance and vocal lessons. We requested the agency to deliver the proper measures within 14 days or we will take legal actions for the breach in contract. However, the agency did not take the proper measurements of our request. Instead, they called one of our members' mothers and threatened us saying, "The agency did nothing wrong. We will be taking the members with good temper and leave the rest to rot like garbage. We will create a blacklist so that they can't do anything in this field. We will make them so depressed so they can't do anything except stay at home." In response to this, we could not bear this any longer. That is why we have notified the agency of the termination of our contracts.

This is when the issue with Haena arose. At the likely time when we have sent the statement to the agency, the agency began speaking about the issue with Haena. Soon after, the agency notified us that Haena has been admitted to the hospital and told us to go visit her. Right before we sent the letter of the termination with the agency, the content seen in the articles were posted on Haena's Instagram account.

In actuality, the relationship between us and Haena was not bad. In our opinions, we did not have any special problems with Haena. Haena joined ANS in December of 2019. She was the youngest member of our group and was attending high school at the time. This year, our group was not able to promote as much because of the circumstances with the company. Therefore, we did not spend much time with her.

The only conflict we had with Haena was when we convinced her to go back to school when she decided not to go anymore after being tested for the coronavirus. There was a person who tested positive for the virus at the internet cafe that Haena had gone to. So Haena received testing on May 29th. Fortunately, Haena tested negative and the quarantine authorities notified her to quarantine herself for an additional three days.

During that period we were taking care of Haena's school notices when we received a phone call from Haena's homeroom teacher. Haena's teacher told us on June 8th that Haena had not returned to school even after the additional three days of quarantine and did not contact the school to tell them the reason for her absence. The teacher revealed to us that Haena had missed many school days with the excuse of promoting with the group and the agency. She even told the school on the day of her graduation photos that she had a work schedule with the agency and did not show up to school.

When we backtracked, we did not have any schedules on the day of graduation photography. That is when we called Haena out to a cafe and told her the conversation we had with her homeroom teacher. We asked her what was going on and she was not able to clearly answer. She said it was her personal issue. Our members went on to rebuke her that lying is not good and to discuss with us if she has any issues. We encouraged her to do better in the future and we did not curse at her or even raised our voice at her. To be honest, these kinds of management should have been done by the agency but we had to manage Haena's school attendance as well because the agency did not do it.

The next day, Haena contacted one of our members and told her that Haena had been suffering from mental issues. Haena stated that she wanted to talk with her parents before making any decisions. We told her that we all respect Haena on her decision and to tell us after speaking with the agency. However, Haena stopped replying to any of us thereafter. Then on June 12th, she contacted two members saying 'I'm in a mentally difficult state so I couldn't reply. I'm sorry. I will contact you after I get better.' That was Haena's last message with us. Haena did not even attend the fan meeting that took place on June 20th and we went through difficulty trying to change the choreography to fill in Haena's absence.

Then, the company notified us after we sent them the statement that Haena had gone to the hospital because of us. They told us to go to the hospital to visit Haena but we were wary that the agency might plan something against us. So we were scared and was not able to even contact Haena. Fortunately, there was nothing too serious with Haena and we were told she was sent home. We were relieved to hear the news. In fact, Haena was having a hard time because of the unclear future due to the agency's circumstances. She also revealed that she was financially having difficulties because we were not receiving any monetary support from the company.

All our members have no ill-feeling towards Haena, nor did we have any before. We want to resolve any misunderstandings we have between Haena by openly speaking with her. However, the issue with Haena occurred right around the time when the issue with the contract occurred. When we look back at the time when the agency spoke ill of us and threatened us, we are suspicious the agency has used Haena to obscure the issue with the contract.
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Translation copied from Asian Junkie's article.

In end-of-year surveys conducted during previous iterations of this thread, people were asked to vote for the True Idol Award that recognised "excellence in the face of injury, overbooking, sleep deprivation, starvation, bullying, scandals, management ineptitude and netizen ignorance." I feel like ANS might be a nominee if such an award still existed (so long as 7 out of the 8 members aren't bullies of course).
 
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