It's really okay. Your point was valid. I simply underestimated my own sensitivity when deciding to post. I am still at work and am regrettably not prepared for the distress I've inadvertently brought on myself by immersing in this particular subject. I find it best I do not partake in challenging conversations when my constitution is not sturdy. But there are no hard feelings.
This is BS. People were permanently banned. Bans were handed out for the tinniest of things like " something sounds off" or "I'm not saying I dont believe him, but we need more info." Of course you can go back, look and not see anything because those bans were reversed and comments edited or removed. I forgot which mod it was, but he was going off on everyone and it was because that thread that he got removed as a mod. It was a shitshow and an embarrassment for Era.
The problem stems from the demonizing and not the believing every accusation.
there's a difference between a woman standing up in public and making an accusation and a random twitter account being created just to make one. So, no, sometimes you shouldn't just believe 100% without question.
why yes, i certainly do choose to believe that one of the mods went rogue and banned everyone without discussing it first
I made a post linking to the other threads a few pages back. You didn't make a post in the Fantastic Beasts thread. You're good, there's no need to apologize.
There was an article by Doug Stanhope accusing Heard of abusing Depp as far back as '16.Agreed.
I've been looking at past threads and there are so many active posters that have commented on this situation "both siding" this and at the same time condemning Depp while the very few that condemned Heard have received bans and/or backlash.
The Fantastic Beasts thread in particular went super hard on Depp. Granted, I think this was before Depp accused Heard of abusing him. Feel free to correct me on that last bit.
Even when Depp accused Heard of shitting on their bed, the OP in which this news was talked about dismissed him as being the one lying and if she did do it, was played off for laughs.
Fantastic Beasts Director Explains Why He Isn't Firing Johnny Depp
Yates also said this: Source: https://www.gamespot.com/amp-articles/fantastic-beasts-director-explains-why-he-isnt-fir/1100-6455269/ Fuck Yates and fuck this filmwww.resetera.com
It wasn't until finally, earlier last year, Depp came out that he was abused by his ex-wife and the finger picture was circulating. Even then, people had doubts and the people who didn't have doubts that Heard did this, still viewed Depp unfavorably.Johnny Depp accuses Amber Heard of shitting in his bed.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/celebrities-gone-bad/johnny-depp-accuses-ex-wife-amber-heard-of-pooing-in-their-bed/news-story/dfc56658512a09be02aef3222fe4ec4d
It was just a mess all around, and I hope more people that have commented on this previously comment on it now that waaay more info has been revealed.
One went way too far and permabanned a ton of people. I think it may have been former mod Bronson. Either way it was a dumb and people were automatically branded victim blamers:
Did you think maybe the dude who was on the staff has a better idea of what happened than you might
That's not going to be able to happen because it's obvious coming from several people in this thread that stating you're waiting for more info is a dog whistle. If it's either shut up or get banned for saying you need more info then idk what can be done.
Because some people aren't smart enough to simply believe the victim. They think supporting the victim translates into trashing the accused without any evidence.
Just wait until saint Lad and lord sire Leo sees this. It is getting out of hand just like that time Amber Heard beat up her girlfriend in 2009 and everyone forgot about it.
I've been in a very similar situation. Most accusations are real, and believing women absolutely is the best policy. But it can also be frustrating when there actually is a false accusation that you know about or reasonably suspect, because if you say anything you're going to be cast in a horrible light. I don't know what the answer is, but it can't be the way we currently do things.
The notion that some people think waiting for more info is a dog whistle is quite frankly an opinion I find to be alarming. People need to realize that you can both still be supportive to the victim while simultaneously wait for more information to properly asses the situation. Hopefully Johnny Depp's condition and career can recover.
same , but happened with a friend on social media , he was freaking out
Bunch of media types and journalist have to admit they were wrong after god knows how many stories and articles they wrote about this? Good luck with that. Probably waiting for the next trump gaffe to over shadow this so they don't have to respond to it themselves.
It doesn't fit the narrative, so don't expect there to be much discussion. I visit some feminist sites (MarySue, Jezebel) and I can't tell you how many "Fuck Depp" or "Go Amber Heard" articles are on there, but nothing about this.
The spirit of it, sure.
"This forum" is not guilty of anything as it's not a hive mind, as my post says people who take it too far cause harm and those people are everywhere.
