Whether it happened is secondary, I'm just curious about what form that justice you're describing would (or should) take in an environment where there's nothing backing up their accusation. I understand the enormous pressure and stress the accuser has to go through even to get to the point of being able to talk about these events openly but I'm not well versed on how these types of cases proceed in the first place.
Yeah but in this situation we weren't believing a accuser, Depp was saying he was the victim from the start
Are we including historical (and current) race based accusations here? If so, not only is what you said inaccurate but it's really dangerous to just condemn the accused without any evidence of even hearing their side of the story.
Because domestic abuse and abuse against women in general don't have a good track record with the law so people now err on the side of caution and believe them which is a good thing, but there are rare cases like this. It's why even though Depp has character witnesses, no history of abuse (except self inflicted drug and alcohol), he was the abuser.
"Let's wait for more information" is basically "let's wait for more information so that we have a clearer picture of what actually happened."
I don't think there'd be much application within this context to current society discussing historical cases when we're in the age of social media and that's how most of this is brought to our attention (though historical instances are also incredibly important and should be studied and learned from, especially race-based accusations and the effect that's had on minorities). If we want to be more accurate, we can say allegations by minorities are largely accurate (see statistics on sexual assault/rape allegations for example). However I'd be willing to bet out of the public accusations most of us are familiar with or that gain traction, the vast majority have been accurate. Also, I don't think posting on a hardcore gaming forum necessarily condemns anyone.
There are a ton of domestic violence survivors and sexual abuse survivors on this forum. Sexual abuse rates for men are 20%, for women they are 25-30%. Domestic violence is equally common if not more so.
I wonder why you feel the need to downplay what is said on Era so much. This is a large and influential forum. If what we said here didn't matter, then why can't people say they want to wait for more information? It seems like anytime this site collectively gets something wrong there are people that point out that it doesn't matter what we say here. I think it does, which is why certain things should be banned. This forum does have some impact on popular opinion, even if it's small.
Not sure why you think this thread is 'real weird'. Yeah I'm sure he did, victims of domestic violence are often pushed to either physically defend themselves or even lash out after suffering so much abuse for so long.
I think he lost most of his money. Hopefully he gets something back at least.
Self defense is a thing, someone starts hitting you, you're instinct is to defend yourself. There comes a point where you have to put your hand up to either block blows or at least deflect them away from you. No one should be a punching bag in a relationship
Idiotic belief but there are those that believe it unfortunately. Anyone can be a victim
Considering the onslaught of abuse on tape, statements, etc. it's fair to err on the side of caution and say he has been in defense mode.
self defense doesn't exist and if you defend yourself you are just as bad as the person abusing you.
Probably not but I do want you know I really appreciate you being civil and sharing your opinion, and I hope you don't think I'm saying you're empirically wrong and I'm right or anything, just coming from different perspectives.
Nah, it's all good. We don't always have to agree to get along. I don't think your heart is in the wrong place or anything.
