But shouldn't it also be okay to share that opinion? If there are unknowns to the story it shouldn't be considered wrong to point them out
This is an internet forum, not the Hague. Telling other people to wait for more information is denying them the opportunity to have an opinion which they have as much a right to as anyone else. Especially if we're talking about threads surrounding issues that effect real people here like racism or transphobia, there is no need to be telling those people who are effected to basically calm down.
yeah. it is sad how people can and will still paint depp as part of the problem.
Hah, whose career is over now? Hopefully she gets locked up and loses all her money. What a psycho.Leaked page from Tara Roberts' testimony :
Except the facts and accusations were always murky in this case from the get go, still was ok to pile on Depp.
Of course, because at the time a reasonable understanding of the situation was he was an abuser. If you believed otherwise, fine, but with the information available at the time it was a reasonable conclusion. Nobody had access to this audio.
Why can't people who want to wait for more information not share their opinions? I don't think it's fair or healthy to jump the gun and shame people the second an accusation or story comes out. Everyone should be able to share their opinion.
Waiting for more information isn't really an opinion, it's the lack of one, it's passively waiting until a future date that may potentially never come to form an opinion
You won't get many. The reality is her position cannot be fully discounted (as noted by the staff post), so you cannot say 100% he never abused her.
Man this is hard to read. I know too many victims of domestic abuse.
Christ
That can be a dangerous ideology to apply in every case. A lot of victims never get justice because they don't have proof.
Yeah again, abuse is a pattern, this will likely happen again if nobody steps in.
People frame their post in an expression of an opinion, as one of the posters above shown when comparing your 'correct' opinion vs people explaining why they would wait for more information.
This is such a classic and clear-cut domestic abuser it hurts my heart.Leaked page from Tara Roberts' testimony :
All this is leaking because Depp and his team are forbidden by law to publicly share any of this. I guess they probably figured they'd maybe lose the defamation lawsuit because of technicalities (she never named him directly) so they wanted his name cleared publicly, which is what mattered the most.
Yes? What about the ton of rape victims who weren't able to go get a rape kit, and even then they may not have witnesses or anything to verify their story. You're saying if because someone can't definitively prove something that it didn't happen?
No, there are plenty of discussions to be had around any given topic and many words at our disposal to have them with.
Also this
"Let's wait for more information" is basically "I don't believe them right now"
Sure agreed, but it's also dangerous for folks to be wrongfully accused. Proving that you're innocent is such a ridiculous thing to do when it should be the other way around
shit man, I'm sorry but I'm glad you made it out with your sanity and self-esteem in tact.
With how that franchise has gone I can say he deserves better than that, give him a Marvel role or make him a alien on Star Wars
Discussion ebbs and flows and can go in any direction. If the thread is about a comedian being accused of rape (for example), you can talk about other similar cases, how bad rape is, how you didn't expect that comedian to be involved (or how you did), advocate for rape victims, share news about it happening, there are any number of things to talk about that does not downplay or dismiss the issue at hand.
