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Justice Department releases redacted Mueller report (See Threadmarks for Summaries)
- Thread starter GK86
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Yeah just read that. I thought the sentence fragment was suspicious but holy shit that's a hell of a prefix.
Unless I missed it it looks like there's at least 4-5 FULL pages redacted, with at least multiple dozens more heavily redacted, and hundreds lightly redacted.
Saying the entire report was "lightly redacted" is an outright lie. Entire pages and sections missing.
Saying the entire report was "lightly redacted" is an outright lie. Entire pages and sections missing.
So basically to sum up some of the take aways here that I saw;
1. Trump being so dumb that he didn't knowingly commit a crime in the collusion angle might not have been a joke
2. Mueller flat out punts obstruction to Congress and flat out characterized the conduct as corrupt
3. Barr is going to get lit the fuck up the next time he appears in public
4. Good god Trump Jr is a dumbass
1. Trump being so dumb that he didn't knowingly commit a crime in the collusion angle might not have been a joke
2. Mueller flat out punts obstruction to Congress and flat out characterized the conduct as corrupt
3. Barr is going to get lit the fuck up the next time he appears in public
4. Good god Trump Jr is a dumbass
Barr and co not giving a shit because they know they'll get away with it.
Republicans don't care.
Republicans don't care.
OP
OP
So much to unpack and I'm going to be on my fucking phone all day.
I'll tell you one thing, I'm happy this confirms what was obvious to anyone paying attention: that Trump was very obviously trying to obstruct justice. The thought that that could have been so easily overlooked made me lose faith entirely. Didn't make sense at all.
I'll tell you one thing, I'm happy this confirms what was obvious to anyone paying attention: that Trump was very obviously trying to obstruct justice. The thought that that could have been so easily overlooked made me lose faith entirely. Didn't make sense at all.
The Russians helped swing the midwest, and by extension, Trump's entire victory.
For point 1. They coordinated with Wikileaks, but since they didn't participate in the hack it wasn't a crime. So even if they didn't commit a crime, they colluded.
Man even redacted to all hell this looks BAD
Yeah, that little trick may not work again too
Yeah, that little trick may not work again too
Reposting from the other thread, but here's an important qualifier:
If there were any accountability in Washington, this would be treated like a "lack of institutional control" charge by the NCAA.
Even if you didn't explicitly condone criminal activity, the operation is run so poorly and with so many holes that it invites criminal activity.
"Senate results and 2020 results be damned"
So what's the objective?
This is awesome. It's a horrible look for the president and the whole thing hasn't even been released!
At least 10 instances where Trump sought to interfere
to have it said in the history books that they condemned and fought in every sense that they could
sometimes shit happens and it's not about being 100% about a political goal---blowback for 2020 election shouldn't even be considered in the face of this stuff
I think you mean, "Barr Code"😉
Some parts of this report is just a gigantic bar code.
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Now congress supenas the un redacted file while also figuring out how to use the redacted file to hold some people accountable because there is some new stuff here.
So the conclusion boils down to that Russia wanted Trump to win and did stuff in the hopes of helping him win, but that the Trump campaign didn't totally conspire with them to do so; they just benefited from it. I mean, that sort of ignores the Wikileaks stuff and Trump literally saying to "Russia" during a press conference that it would be great if they would hack Hillary's emails. But whatever.
Either way, I think there's more meat in obstruction claims now rather than confirmed collusion. In the end, it's not that Trump colluded with Russia, it's that he tried to mess with the investigation because he's a paranoid piece of shit.
But at the end of the day, he's not getting impeached and kicked out of office. Not with this Senate. What this stuff should do is completely disqualify him in the eyes of voters in the 2020 election. But it won't, because Trump does so much terrible stuff that no one narrative can stick to and taint him. With Hillary, it was "EMAILS!" or "BENGHAZI!" With Trump, there's so much stuff that it all just blends together, allowing Trump and his propaganda cronies to shape the narrative by being louder and simpler than the mess.
It appears he was punting the whole thing to them anyway, based on tweets. The problem of course is Barr, the GOP, and Fox News are all implying because Mueller didn't charge him, he's clear.
Mueller's team referred 14 investigations to other US attorney's offices.
