Just watched 1917. What’s up with Schofield’s incompetence?(spoilers)

[Slipknot666]

-German plane crashes near Schofield and Blake and instead of killing or at least disarming him they let a severely wounded pilot to kill Blake because who knows what the hell they were thinking to do with him.

-Schofields barge into a room where he knows there is a soldier and almost get killed. He was lucky the soldier was almost dead, otherwise it would've been a different history.

-Schofield tells a German soldier to keep quite instead of killing him when he has the chance and of course the German doesn't shut up and almost alert his drunken partner. At the end he has to kill him anyways.

-Speaking of the drunken soldier, he could have take him out fairly easily but instead bumps into him and let him alert other soldiers.

You could say that at the end he completed his mission but he finds second division by pure luck.

I wouldn't want a soldier like him watching my back.

 

[brawndolicious]

He's human, to answer all your questions.

 

[More_Badass]

He's only human, as well as being exhausted and shellshocked.

As for the plane, that was empathy unfortunately biting them

 

[B.K.]

He probably just wasn't thinking right. He probably had pretty bad PTSD.

 

[Betty]

- they wanted to take the pilot as a prisoner maybe, it was a human mistake to let him live

- He had to barge in, that was the tactics those days. You ran head first and hoped to win

- the soldier was young and it's fucking hard killing someone up close and personal while staring into their eyes

 

[learning]

He did a damn good job considering

 

[MadLaughter]

He's not Sam fuckin' Fisher

 

[Deleted member 13798]

He's human, to answer all your questions.

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yep. He's not an action movie star, he's a scared person.

 

[Trisc]

1. He has a heart, and was moved by Blake's empathy for a scared German soldier. It was misplaced empathy, but it was empathy nonetheless.
2. They're both absolutely terrified, and it was his only chance to survive.
3. He has a heart, and doesn't want to kill people. Moreover, the soldier he wound up having to choke out was a teenager at the oldest. Schofield may have a wife and kid, but he's not much older than that.
4. He has a heart, and doesn't want to kill people.

I wouldn't want a soldier like him watching my back.

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Propaganda is effective at making you forget the human. Perhaps you should reevaluate your perspective.

 

[Darkmaigle]

Wait didn't Schofield make it in time to stop the rest of the troops from attacking? Like accomplishing the mission they gave him?

 

[SnatcherHunter]

He's not Sam fuckin' Fisher

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This.

 

[Deleted member 12790]

I wouldn't want a soldier like him watching my back.

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The dude ran across a war torn country essentially unarmed to deliver a message that saved countless lives and succeeded. Dude is exactly the kind of person I'd want watching my back.

 

[Quantum Leap]

War isn't like COD on your couch

 

[Luyrar]

i cant remember if his age is mentioned, but hes 20ish with a fcking hell of a task in the most brutal war ever..i mean cmon.

 

[B.K.]

The dude ran across a war torn country essentially unarmed to deliver a message that saved countless lives and succeeded. Dude is exactly the kind of person I'd want watching my back.

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He only half succeeded. The first wave still got sent out.

 

[808s & Villainy]

Isn't he like 20 in the movie?

 

[TheMango55]

Not everyone can just "Take someone out" like it's nothing.

 

[Z-Beat]

"You should've done this" is a really easy position to take when you're sitting in a chair watching it happen and not trekking through fields of dirt and dead bodies with no rest on a time sensitive mission to rescue hundreds of men.

People talk about what they would've done all the time when the real answer is you would've shat your pants and died

Also it seems clear that he's not into killing if he doesn't have to

 

[Luyrar]

"You should've done this" is a really easy position to take when you're sitting in a chair watching it happen and not trekking through fields of dirt and dead bodies with no rest on a time sensitive mission to rescue hundreds of men.

People talk about what they would've done all the time when the real answer is you would've shat your pants and died

Also it seems clear that he's not into killing if he doesn't have to

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damn perfect exemple...nolan is a god.

 

[Arkeband]

I feel like you missed the entire point of the movie. He wanted to save lives, not take them. When they saw the pilot on fire their first instinct was to try to save him because they have basic human empathy.

You're supposed to leave the movie feeling upset at the horrors perpetrated on these poor young people, not annoyed at how they didn't John Wick the WW1 battlefield.

 

[Biske]

Lol what.

He's not an action movie hero. He's not John wick.


He a regular ass dude trying not to die in dumbass war.

 

[Donos]

Why isn't everyone a cool SpecOp gamgbanger like Cpt. Price from CoD.

Wasn't anything from Schofield that felt overly incompetence.

 

[Slatsunus]

Besides what everyone else has already said, Schofield having earned a medal for his actions pre movie is also a major plot point. One he traded for wine because it didnt mean anything to him. Which is the whole point. Being a badass doesn't matter, the war is pointless and wasteful.

He absolutely is a competent soldier, but at his core he's just a dude doing his best to survive and make sure his friends death wasn't pointless.

Frankly considering how much awful shit he was willing to endure just for that, he's the type of person I would trust the most to have my back.

 

[Josh5890]

He's human, to answer all your questions.

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First post covers everything

 

[More_Badass]

Besides what everyone else has already said, Schofield having earned a medal for his actions pre movie is also a major plot point. One he traded for wine because it didnt mean anything to him. Which is the whole point. Being a badass doesn't matter, the war is pointless and wasteful.

He absolutely is a competent soldier, but at his core he's just a dude doing his best to survive and make sure his friends death wasn't pointless.

Frankly considering how much awful shit he was willing to endure just for that, he's the type of person I would trust the most to have my back.

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I mean, holy shit, he completed the mission and he wasn't even the soldier who seemed to be the protagonist with a personal stake in the task. Like he could have turned back at least twice, but didn't

 

[B.K.]

I feel like you missed the entire point of the movie. He wanted to save lives, not take them. When they saw the pilot on fire their first instinct was to try to save him because they have basic human empathy.

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I've only seen the movie once, but didn't Schofield actually want to kill the German pilot after his plane crashed? I think I remember him saying something like it would be a mercy to shoot him, but Blake was the one who wanted to save the pilot.

 

[Adventureracing]

-German plane crashes near Schofield and Blake and instead of killing or at least disarming him they let a severely wounded pilot to kill Blake because who knows what the hell they were thinking to do with him.

-Schofields barge into a room where he knows there is a soldier and almost get killed. He was lucky the soldier was almost dead, otherwise it would've been a different history.

-Schofield tells a German soldier to keep quite instead of killing him when he has the chance and of course the German doesn't shut up and almost alert his drunken partner. At the end he has to kill him anyways.

-Speaking of the drunken soldier, he could have take him out fairly easily but instead bumps into him and let him alert other soldiers.

You could say that at the end he completed his mission but he finds second division by pure luck.

I wouldn't want a soldier like him watching my back.

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This is an awful take on so many levels.

 

[Jogi]

I've only seen the movie once, but didn't Schofield actually want to kill the German pilot after his plane crashed? I think I remember him saying something like it would be a mercy to shoot him, but Blake was the one who wanted to save the pilot.

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I wouldn't say he wanted to, but I think he felt it was the best option, yeah.

 

[jakomocha]

I feel like he did a pretty fucking good job all things considered.

This just reminds me of how great of a movie 1917 was

 

[kai3345]

i feel like you missed kinda the entire point of the movie

 

[IDreamOfHime]

Almost like he was just some normal kid thrown into hell or something.

 

[Rendering...]

He's human, to answer all your questions.

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Isn't it weird how people don't do the exact right thing at the exact right time because they're not emotionless and omniscient time wizards?

God, Schofield is SO DUMB. It's almost like he wasn't a hardened veteran with elite training or something. Idiot!

 

[Ashhong]

Isn't it weird how people don't do the exact right thing at the exact right time because they're not emotionless and omniscient time wizards?

God, Schofield is SO DUMB.

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Really prevents well rounded characters sometimes because anytime they don't make the perfect choice they are seen as dumb or incompetent writing.

 

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Really prevents well rounded characters sometimes because anytime they don't make the perfect choice they are seen as dumb or incompetent writing.

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The solution is not to pander to the portion of the audience that lacks insight and emotional intelligence. The writer has to be willing to leave some viewers adrift.

It's a tricky balance if you care about profits. Artistic integrity often has a price.

 

[8byte]

"What's up with his humanity bro? I played all the CoD games and this was nothing like it!"

 

[Einbroch]

I would've died before even getting to the first trench.