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Just procured a PS2 Slim and wondering if anybody know hot get this to look good on my 4K tv?
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sounds good, but i heard this has an issue with PSone games, I really dont want to cripple my experience.
Component cable. And if your TV doesn't support it, use an upscaler. On RetroRGB you'll find all kinds of information
Upscaler yes, but I recommend waiting for the Retrotink 5x, as it will have really great deinterlacing. GBS-C is good too, but harder to get preassembled.
You can get a small HDMI single that would help clean up the signal. Or get an upscaler for optimal results... but that will cost you.
They are in the middle of the current preorder's shipment, so there should be a new preorder phase in a few weeks. 50 pounds and gets the job beatifully done with you just providing an HDMI cable.
Sony PlayStation HD RAD2X 480p cable
www.retrogamingcables.co.uk
If you are in a hurry, just pick on of these which are ain stock (but costlier, and you need to provide the cables, still).
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Something like this:
www.retrogamingcables.co.uk
Edit:
Jegriva :D
Sony PlayStation HD RAD2X 480p cable
www.retrogamingcables.co.uk
Edit:
Jegriva :D
1) Get some PS2 component cables
2) Test it with your TV to see how it looks and whether there is bad lag using component
3) If it's bad, get a RetroTINK 2X Classic or Pro to do the analog to digital conversion
2) Test it with your TV to see how it looks and whether there is bad lag using component
3) If it's bad, get a RetroTINK 2X Classic or Pro to do the analog to digital conversion
Getting 480i to look good on a modern TV is a heckuva project. Basically you'll want to get decent Component cables and then something that can "deinterlace" the video into something progressive scan. Mike Chi has an upcoming simple to use scaler called the "Retrotink 5X" that is getting an update specifically for 480i signals like the PS2.
tl;dr;
Buy these cables and a Retrotink 5X when it comes out soon, or a 2X now which will also be OK but not as great.
* https://www.amazon.com/HD-Retrovision-PlayStation-Premium-Component/dp/B07H3F94ZN?ref_=ast_sto_dp
* https://www.retrotink.com
tl;dr;
Buy these cables and a Retrotink 5X when it comes out soon, or a 2X now which will also be OK but not as great.
* https://www.amazon.com/HD-Retrovision-PlayStation-Premium-Component/dp/B07H3F94ZN?ref_=ast_sto_dp
* https://www.retrotink.com
The Framemeister upscaler is arguably best for 480i content which is the majority of the PS2 library (assuming an extra frame or so of lag isn't a problem for you), but I think the device is quite expensive now since it is out-of-print.
480i content with the OSSC isn't it's strong suit, but it might be good enough for you. Your best cheap option is to go with the Retro Tink 2X, but only you can say if the result is good enough for you.
Look up the PlayStation 2 episode on YouTube by My Life in Gaming for more info.
Also, the creators of the PS1Digital are working on a PS2Digital mod which I'm sure will have motion-adaptive deinterlacing which should be really nice. Then there is the Retro Tink 5X which isn't out yet, but maybe it will work great for PS2 games when it does release.
480i content with the OSSC isn't it's strong suit, but it might be good enough for you. Your best cheap option is to go with the Retro Tink 2X, but only you can say if the result is good enough for you.
Look up the PlayStation 2 episode on YouTube by My Life in Gaming for more info.
Also, the creators of the PS1Digital are working on a PS2Digital mod which I'm sure will have motion-adaptive deinterlacing which should be really nice. Then there is the Retro Tink 5X which isn't out yet, but maybe it will work great for PS2 games when it does release.
I have an upscaler (Framemeister) and the results are absolutely outstanding. My understanding is that these things have only gotten better over time (and there are a lot of different players in the game offering top quality experiences), so if you have the cash, I would definitely pick an upscaler up (though probably not a Framemeister, as they are out of date at this point).
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Thanks for this.
are they better than the retrotink pro multiformat?
Oh, I didn't know about that.
There's even a 5x scart in development. I'll likely go with that!
There's an entire thread dedicated to this topic:
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This is what Im worried about with the component cables, from what I understand some TVs can do 240p over component and thats what causes the black screen for some games. I just want a set up where I dont have to worry about things like that when im ready to play.
Retrotink 5x and GBS-C should not only display it fine (which most upscalers do), but both should also be able to display it without losing sync when the game changes resolutions (ie Chrono Cross)
Isn't there a new Retrotink 2x Pro or something that can do 240p/480i/480p?
Edit: Ahh, it's the Multiformat that's new. It supports passing through 480p.
www.retrotink.com
Still, I think it would be best to wait for upscaling from Retrotink 5x.
Edit: Ahh, it's the Multiformat that's new. It supports passing through 480p.
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Still, I think it would be best to wait for upscaling from Retrotink 5x.
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"Good" is subjective, but ps2 looks like shit on modern TVs no matter what imo. Even games that support 480p. Hideous. I've tried every solution that exists. It's unfortunate!
Yeah, the video signal out of the PS2 is often noisy, and the fact that MANY game actually run at 512x448i (and not at full SD res) doesn't help.
I keep wanting to buy fat PS3 just so I can hack it and run games off an SSD but I already have 2 Slims :).
Retrotink doesn't do well with 480p unless you get new Multiformat one.
Waiting for this. Do you know when it is supposed to come out by any chance?
Jealous - Slim is arguably Sony's best looking console. Just perfect dimensions:
hard to come by or are they still fairly obtainable these days?
hard to come by or are they still fairly obtainable these days?
As awesome as the launch phat PS3s were, this is not great advice - they have almost all likely been repaired at this point. I've had to repair my launch unit twice for YLOD, so I don't even use it anymore (also have a slim). And even if you get one mint, they have a really high failure rate. I think if the goal is playing PS2 games, a dedicated PS2 is the way to go.
another vote for a crt if you have the room. I bought 2 Sony Trinitrons at my local thrift store for 9 cents apiece. PS2 looks great on it with component cables.
I've purchased several upcoverting boxes and dongles for my PS2 slim and none of them look good enough to make the games playable on a 4K TV. I just gave up and went the PC emulation route.
Jealous - Slim is arguably Sony's best looking console. Just perfect dimensions:
hard to come by or are they still fairly obtainable these days?
As awesome as the launch phat PS3s were, this is not great advice - they have almost all likely been repaired at this point. I've had to repair my launch unit twice for YLOD, so I don't even use it anymore (also have a slim). And even if you get one mint, they have a really high failure rate. I think if the goal is playing PS2 games, a dedicated PS2 is the way to go.
Thats fair but their are still working units out there. I just can't deal with the quality of the OG PS2 on HDTVs....it totally kills the experience for me. I'd much prefer using the PS3 with HDMI or emulating the games on PC.
The latest update was that the RT5x was being manufactured, so hopefully soon! I know I want two.
It's also worth noting that sometime this year, we are likely to get a PS2digital (full HDMI) solution, so that will be beautiful when it comes!
I just want a decent wireless controller. why 8bitdo or one of the other major brands don't at least have a Bluetooth adapter is fucking stupid.
I really don't agree. With component cables and TV sharpness lowered to 3/10 (the average TV sharpness just makes things look a lot worse than they are) it looks good enough. I am playing LOTR:The Two Towers and i never thought:"This looks like shit".
Yeah PS2HDMI will be interesting to see, I agree. But probably not an easy install again for someone who can't solder. Thanks for the info, wasn't really upto date with the RT5x.
hence the word "subjective" :p one mans trash signal is the next mans "this is fine" :p
Here's a photo I took of my PS2 slim running on my 4K Samsung using the Sony component leads. Tbh I was surprised at how well it came out. I have CRTs around so I probably wouldn't buy an upscaler box thingy myself but for casual play sessions I'm perfectly happy with this and I don't throw the controller on the floor crying "but where's the SCANLINES" to myself all hunched up in a ball.
