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Just Cause 4 console patch hits today; new AA solution, improvements to performance, water, vegetation, 4K render and more
- Thread starter MauroNL
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Honestly from the pic posted not seems a massive improvement in terms of IQ. Hope to see some video analysis about it just for my personal curiosity.https://square-enix-games.com/en_GB/news/just-cause-4-development-update-march-7-2019
Here are the patch notes for PS4/Xbox One:
- Performance improvements
- Water improvements
- Vegetation improvements
- New anti-aliasing system
- New 4K rendering solution
- Various bug fixes
- Updated Customization menu
- JC3 Rico Skin (Legacy Item)
Looks like a solid update, but can't help but wonder why this wasn't there in the first place. Squeenix making them rush it out for December again like last time.
Been testing it out on the X. Definite improvement to the aliasing and IQ. There is an odd shimmer on the groind and what feels like a motion blur (despite being disabled) at times though. Would love to see DF take a look.
This is a world apart, massive improvement. If only they could fix the way that they totally butchered the structure of the game.
In what way?
In terms of frame rates and load times I'd agree, but if we're talking about actual gameplay changes then I'd argue JC4 was a step backwards in many ways.
Man I really regret buying it day 1 on PC, definitely play it on gamepass though if you can. It was literally unplayable for me for over a month, I mean, I could play for like 10 minutes at a time, and then it would crash. With this, and how badly optimized Left Alive is, I'm kinda wary of future Square PC ports.
I'm playing a bit now on Xbox One X, didn't play pre-patch, but if the visual quality of the cutscenes are anything to go by then this patch is a big improvement.
I have great respect for developers who stick by broken or unfinished games. The tragedy, though, is that the game was released in such a state. Everyone gets hurt. The fans get disappointed, the developers suffer as well as the publisher due to low sales, and the game loses a huge amount of momentum. It was such a mess at launch. The PC version was a disaster. A genuine disaster. It has been heavily improved since and this new patch will hopefully improve it even more, but this game needed a delay so, so badly. Square Enix are in a really strange place as a publisher. Just look at Left Alive this week. How was the game allowed to release in such a state, especially on PC? The role of a publisher includes doing what is necessary to ensure the developers deliver a quality product.
Should be within 2 days if what they say on the steam page is true.
looks better my PC version. The AA on PC is some hideous shitHeres a pic i took and posted on Twitter.
How is there no brightness toggle in this game? The game is so damn dark. Why did they think that was acceptable.
I'll ask again, ass I've done in many JC4 threads and never got an answer:
Is the game better or worse than JC3?
Is the game better or worse than JC3?
Because Stockholm was working on RAGE 2 (which looks great). Square wanted another Just Cause game and an independent studio would be stupid to turn down such a big contract, even if it meant delegating it to the B team.
I will never shit on minigame based progression ever again. There is a lot to do in JC4, the game couldn't be worse at leading you to what to do
That's what blew me away. JC3 had performance issues but it was fun, in a simplistic way. JC4 is overcomplicated, bloated and gets boring pretty fast. It just didn't feel good to play.
Oh man, I disagree so hard, Just Cause 4 is so, so much better than 3.
In Just Cause 3 you had to play a dozen Hours and more to unlock the most basic gameplay mechanics possible. You had to play tedious, boring shooting gallery mini games to unlock the ability to zoom in with a weapon! What in the world? The Wingsuit was an unwieldy piece of garbage until you spent a few hours farming incredibly frustrating Superman-64-style time races where you have to fly through rings to unlock stuff like being able to break or make sharp turns. EXACTLY the kind of stuff you would need to have any kind of fun with the checkpoint races in the first place, and even that would be debatable.
JC3 built its entire structure and gameplay around unlocking everything that makes the game fun (or sometimes: Playable) in the first place in the most tedious, mind-numbingly boring mini game challenges possible.
Plus: The destruction and the way you had to destroy bases completely sucked. To check off a Base as destroyed or city as liberated, which you have to do a ton off, you have to find and destroy every single destructible object. So, So many times this simply resulted in my searching for minutes on end for that one speaker or that one poster board I missed. It wasn't chaotic destruction, it was - yet again - tedious searching for items that willfully weren't marked on your map to make you search for them.
Yes, all of that shit is dead and buried in JC 4. You have ALL of your core gameplay functions from the start, it doesn't hide it's base functionality behind an artifical progression system that makes you work for hours on end to be allowed to have fun with the game. Instead, you unlock Mods that enhance the gameplay experience without fundamentally being necessary to enjoy the game. Destroying stuff in bases is now exactly what it's supposed to be: Fun and chaotic, since there's no need to destroy every single thing in every base now.
I'm not sure what Slayven means by the game being bad at leading you what to do, since you always have your various main missions shown on the map, showing you which regions you have to free to unlock them. Freeing the regions necessary is pretty fast (it took me about 10 hours to realize that, very often, there is a small "+" in front of the "1" being shown, indicating that I actually GAIN chaos by freeing them because I already freed the surrounding areas, allowing me to basically get 60% of the map for "free"), although that one mission you have to do to free every region can be frustrating (specifically, the one where you have to escort the prisoners. Those take forever and are boring as hell, I found the other to be fine and, often, fun).
Plus, the new tools allowed me to have fun with the Open World in ways never possible in JC 3. Look at this stupid shit:
This is awesome. The story is still complete garbage, but the shooting feels better, the core gameplay mechanics aren't locked behing tedious progression that completely goes against the core strengths of the franchise, locking you behind the ever-same mini challenges that can often get stupidly frustrating, the new Balloon and Rocket mechanics were fun as hell and the world is huge and varied.
I expected very little from JC4 after the complete mess that JC3 was (not even talking about what a complete, unplayable technical disaster it was consoles) but was pretty blown away by how much fun I had with JC4 again. The story missions and campaign are, yet again, quite uninteresting and bad, but that was always the case with Just Cause. The possibilities to have fun with the open world are almost endless, however. I think I spent like 15 minutes flying around a tornado once, following him around, dodging the debris and explosives he shot up in the sky and had more fun with that than I ever had in JC 3.
They still look pretty bad but they look way, way better than they did at the beginning. The resolution, at least, seems to have been fixed.
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Ah, that makes more sense. Just Cause 2 was excellent, as was Mad Max and Rage 2 is looking to be the best of the bunch. Meanwhile JC3 and 4 have been lackluster.
Bought a Xbox One S a couple of months ago, so I think I will give it a try after I have finished Shadow of the Tomb Raider.
I think the main problem with JC 3 and 4 were that the gameplay loop in 2 was great, and the location was already so ridiculously packed and huge that honestly, it was enough. I'm finding this a lot with games recently, and maybe it's just gettin' old, but, you know... I really enjoyed JC2... do I really, really need to play JC2 again? And if I do, well... there's JC2, right there, already. And honestly 3 was just a worse version of 2 with slightly better graphics. Which felt completely superfluous, and I can't imagine 4 is wildly different. Anyway, get off my lawn etc etc
It's because JC3 and JC4 were developed by the B-Studio, Avalanche New York.
The main studio Avalanche Stockholm were the ones that developed JC2, Mad Max, and currently Rage 2.
Hopefully Avalanche Stockholm will heavily involved in the next game.
Just started playing and the game seems to use pre rendered videos that have worse aliasing than the real time gameplay.
Also, I think I skipped a bit in the story of the prologue.
But so far, the game is fun enough. Love the grapple parachute combo. I haven't played a Just Cause since the demo for the first game.
Also, I think I skipped a bit in the story of the prologue.
I hacked the console then headed to the top of the tower.
A cut scene played when the bad guy said the weapon will take time to charge and asked the woman to delay me. Then the game instantly cut to my character using a wing suit, which I hadn't seen yet, and he got knocked out of the air. This revealed a pretty underwhelming late title card.
Did I miss a boss fight?
A cut scene played when the bad guy said the weapon will take time to charge and asked the woman to delay me. Then the game instantly cut to my character using a wing suit, which I hadn't seen yet, and he got knocked out of the air. This revealed a pretty underwhelming late title card.
Did I miss a boss fight?
But so far, the game is fun enough. Love the grapple parachute combo. I haven't played a Just Cause since the demo for the first game.
I played the game Thursday and was shocked by how bad it looked, maybe it's the HDR. I guess i should try it in SDR and yeah that AA wasn't too hot either. I hope I played it pre patched.
Exactly. I was like... Wtf didn't this pretty decent in trailers?
Exactly. I was like... Wtf didn't this pretty decent in trailers?
Gave it an hour or so after wrapping up DMC V today and while the visual improvement is undeniable, game itself is still so rough. No AAA video game released in the last two decades has had a more obtuse, vague and outright unexplained progression system.
I literally cannot tell you how the hell you play a story mission - the map is filled with tedious side content and you need to somehow "push to a new region" to progress the story but the game does such a horrific job of explaining how to do this that you wind up just running around the map and blowing up whatever you see for hours on end, never moving forward in the narrative until magically a mission becomes available that is almost always "defend the thing" or "defend and escort the people." Horrific design across the board.
Say what you will about Just Cause 3 and its terrible optimization and mini-game levels but at least it made its mechanics and narrative structure clear from the onset and wasn't just a sprawling map with nothing pointing you in the right direction and no sense of narrative flow. Just Cause 4's problem doesn't stop with the technical performance, it's biggest issue is that it's just a bad game.
I literally cannot tell you how the hell you play a story mission - the map is filled with tedious side content and you need to somehow "push to a new region" to progress the story but the game does such a horrific job of explaining how to do this that you wind up just running around the map and blowing up whatever you see for hours on end, never moving forward in the narrative until magically a mission becomes available that is almost always "defend the thing" or "defend and escort the people." Horrific design across the board.
Say what you will about Just Cause 3 and its terrible optimization and mini-game levels but at least it made its mechanics and narrative structure clear from the onset and wasn't just a sprawling map with nothing pointing you in the right direction and no sense of narrative flow. Just Cause 4's problem doesn't stop with the technical performance, it's biggest issue is that it's just a bad game.