Miz and Mrs are fully going 👁👄👁
Booking wise, nothing changed. And no one said the booking was necessarily better.It's pretty funny to see reports that said that basically nothing changed going into last night's RAW but reading people here saying that the show was noticeable different.
Either you're just telling yourself that or you never knew what you were talking about when shitting on RAW before lmao
With Vince McMahon now effectively done with his duties in WWE, a much clearer picture of the creative scene is being painted.
Fightful has heard from many within the creative process who said that many of the creative writer's assistants effectively needed to "filter" Vince themselves in ways. Specifically, we were told that the assistants often had to know what to not write for Vince McMahon when taking notes for him. We've also heard that the "minutes are heavily edited."
We're told this has largely the case for a long time. It ranged from Vince saying things that would appear insensitive or offensive, to "oh god, what did he just say?" moments, all the way to simple kayfabe things as well. Some of the stories included McMahon constantly calling people the wrong names, or using terms that weren't socially acceptable, and that even he himself would have never allowed on television.
Another former production employee said "if a live feed of Vince McMahon on a headset any given night ever made it out, that it would provide a picture of that production experience, especially for the announcers. There were plenty of times he was in a good mood, but he would blow up at the most ridiculous things and act like they ruined an angle that was far past its expiration date anyway."
When asking those working in and near creative what they expected to change the most with Triple H in control, and one specifically said "recall of what we have and haven't done repeatedly. There were so many things that Vince insisted on doing that I'm pretty sure he didn't remember doing over and over again, even when people would tell him."
"if a live feed of Vince McMahon on a headset any given night ever made it out, that it would provide a picture of that production experience, especially for the announcers. There were plenty of times he was in a good mood, but he would blow up at the most ridiculous things and act like they ruined an angle that was far past its expiration date anyway."
Any of that audio coming out would certainly be a spectacle, but Vince being a nightmare in those situations is common knowledge I thought?Fightful Report on Vince working creative in the past. Lots of interesting tidbits.
Any of that audio coming out would certainly be a spectacle, but Vince being a nightmare in those situations is common knowledge I thought?
Either way he's going to end up using the memory problems mentioned at the end to escape culpability in both the legal and social sense
So WWE is now doing the usual "he was hard to work with" but now with Vince too
Love to see it lmao
All I'm remembering is the cold reception Kevin Owens got after a match during one of the WWE docs and a leak of Michael Cole's audio during a break where you could tell he was getting the verbal beatdown for talking back to VinceIt is, although i don't think we've ever had audio/video leak of him being good one moment and then irate the next unless i'm misremembering.
hilarious
but also
this is the first time it's actually the truth lol
The closest was Michael ColeIt is, although i don't think we've ever had audio/video leak of him being good one moment and then irate the next unless i'm misremembering.
All I'm remembering is the cold reception Kevin Owens got after a match during one of the WWE docs and a leak of Michael Cole's audio during a break where you could tell he was getting the verbal beatdown for talking back to Vince
God why is my memory great for carny shit like this and terrible for actual useful things
Please, he has good relationships with the top draws and the undercard is either too marky or too desperate to keep their jobs to bring any of that shit up.I think we can't even imagine the ammount of people and the ammount of stories people have kept for themselves and they must all want to vent now, at the same time.
Nothing stops this train.
I liked CM Punk at that point too so... yeah I didn't take those results well.
Please, he has good relationships with the top draws and the undercard is either too marky or too desperate to keep their jobs to bring any of that shit up.
With all the shit WWE has done revisionist history-wise on I'm sure turning "abusive" Vince into "outlandish but honest and passionate" will be one of their easier jobs
this NEEDS to get out there someday
I want a full fucking 3 hours of raw, vince production audio
Can you imagine Roman telling Ole he's not working weekly shows
Can you imagine Roman telling Ole he's not working weekly shows
Triple H being at the helm of talent relations and creative already has talent outside of WWE interested.
Fightful has spoken to countless (or actually a couple of dozen) former wrestlers who left WWE for a variety of reasons about Triple H gaining more control within the company, as well as Stephanie McMahon's influence.
Talent who left dating back to 2016 spoke with us about how different things would have been if Triple H had been in control much earlier. One who left that year said that it appeared when they left that Triple H had plenty of say in hiring and firing, as well as creative across all levels, but clearly not as much as he does now. They didn't think that him being around back then would have led them to staying aboard, but do believe that a different set of creative circumstances could have led to them gauging WWE's interest in that time period since.
There are numerous NXT talent that have been released along the way that believe that had Triple H had been in these roles that they wouldn't have been released -- in fact, the majority that we spoke to. However, there were a couple that were realistic with the fact that they weren't being utilized or progressing fast enough before their cut. One even said "at some point, someone had to be cut, so I wouldn't be realistic to say that it couldn't or wouldn't be me just because the person who got me hired had more power." Another noted they didn't think they'd have been protected to any degree, as they were pretty much parked and not used on TV for months anyway.
One former NXT talent that had options within WWE before signing elsewhere said that they felt an incredible sense of loyalty to Triple H, and had he been the person managing their creative future "things could have been much different." That talent, and another talent that ended up in AEW said that they had no confidence in being creatively satisfied on the WWE main roster. One said "I'm glad that I went to AEW, but if I was graduating to a Triple H-led Smackdown or Raw, I probably would have re-signed with WWE before my deal was up."
Another top free agent that has several options that Fightful Select spoke to said that both Triple H and Stephanie McMahon being in their positions greatly increases the possibility of them eventually heading back to the company. We've heard from other free agents that were hopeful their previous relationships with Triple H led to them at least having conversations, but didn't expect that to happen imminently.
We'll look to speak to more talent soon about this. The belief that Triple H would be better suited for this spot at this time than Vince McMahon was nearly unanimous, with one person of almost two dozen preferring an "I'll wait and see" approach.
We need Ole style SHOOTS from all the current talent
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgisrCBdJ40
Vince McMahon offered me more money than I ever believed possible, and I told him to go fuck himself!
He said Ole I'd like you to meet my wife Linda
I SAID FUCK HER AND FUCK YOU
I'm pretty sure there are only a handful of people who had their deals expire. Cole, Gargano, and O'Reilly being the main ones. Everyone else got fired."One former NXT talent that had options within WWE before signing elsewhere said that they felt an incredible sense of loyalty to Triple H, and had he been the person managing their creative future "things could have been much different." That talent, and another talent that ended up in AEW said that they had no confidence in being creatively satisfied on the WWE main roster. One said "I'm glad that I went to AEW, but if I was graduating to a Triple H-led Smackdown or Raw, I probably would have re-signed with WWE before my deal was up." "
One of them must totally be Adam Cole lol
Not exactly front-page news given everything else going on, but the WWE 2K games are being quietly delisted.
2K has quietly delisted almost all of the WWE games on Steam
A total of four WWE games, plus DLC, have been removed from sale without warning.www.pcgamer.com
Most people expected WWE to be sold to a bigger media enterprise (so NBC / Disney / whatever) as there is an ongoing consolidation in teh era of "needing live content". Public companies can be purchased by other companies, normally for an extra above current stock market price (like 10-30%), it is all if the board accepts as they believe it is whats best for stockholder.Can someone explain to me how I keep hearing that the WWE is going to be sold. Aren't they a publicly traded company sold to whom? privately? I don't understand this?