Judgment |OT| No delay for Judgment day

[NattyBo]

Yep, that's the one.

Man sounds like it'll be a lot of work :(

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I recommend you use the blackjack cheat (no item needed) to get a bunch of chips. You can get 2/5 paintings with chips, trade the rest of chips for drone paint, sell drone paint at Ebisu, buy enough wooden tags for the painting at that particular casino, and then the VR one is pretty easy.

Use the leftover cash from chips and VR to buy hug bombs to get the SP needed for the last painting.

 

[Son of Sparda]

I recommend you use the blackjack cheat to get a bunch of chips. You can get 2/5 with chips, trade the rest of chips for paint, sell paint at Ebisu, buy enough wooden tags for the painting there, and the VR one is pretty easy. Use the leftover cash from chips and VR to buy hug bombs to get the SP needed for the last painting

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Thanks for the tips. I'll try doing this tomorrow.

 

[NattyBo]

Thanks for the tips. I'll try doing this tomorrow.

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Let me know if you need the blackjack cheat link. Honestly I think it's a faster way of racking up money than VR is, if you're lucky with getting the needed hand to start the cheat. I will do it again before I try the poker requirements so that I have plenty of chips on hand. Also planning on doing it for more hug bombs so I can spend 10k sp each on the Koi Koi and Oicho Kanu cheat items in the sewer.

 

[Deleted member 15428]

Literally just started the game, but it has promise and am enjoying it so far.
Hope none of these questions are too too spoilery, lol. Does the game explain or go into more flashbacks on why Yagami had to quit his original law firm? Was it Just because he acquitted a guy who ended up murdering his girlfriend? And THAT guy was found out to be a serial killer And there's another different one in the present day?

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Maybe

 

[Aswitch]

About 25hrs in and enjoying the game immensely so far. Taking things slow and methodical and trying to absorb everything and do all friend missions and side cases. Also so damn happy Yagami has the tiger drop. I was concerned that it may have been removed or replaced. Feels like a great new series either way. I'm curious of a few things:

-is there a direct correlation to the Yakuza series (outside of known universal characters like ono michio kun)
-Is there an equivalent to Jo Amon (reward for completing all side quests generally). I'm actually hoping that instead of Jo Amon, Kiryu is now the boss that you fight instead to some extent. Would be a pretty cool reward imo.

 

[CannonFodder52]

Chapter 9 was pretty darn great.

 

[Son of Sparda]

Let me know if you need the blackjack cheat link. Honestly I think it's a faster way of racking up money than VR is, if you're lucky with getting the needed hand to start the cheat. I will do it again before I try the poker requirements so that I have plenty of chips on hand. Also planning on doing it for more hug bombs so I can spend 10k sp each on the Koi Koi and Oicho Kanu cheat items in the sewer.

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Yea I'd appreciate it if you could link me to the blackjack cheat. I know I had it somewhere but can't find it atm.

 

[Odinsmana]

I get it.

I just think it's kind of dumb.

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Other characters in the story also think it`s dumb. Genda (the boss at the lawyer agency) tells Yagami that it`s not his fault and wants him to come back. The event just really shook Yagami to his core. You will probably get a better understanding of his perspective as you get some more information about the incident as the game goes on.

 

[NattyBo]

Yea I'd appreciate it if you could link me to the blackjack cheat. I know I had it somewhere but can't find it atm.

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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/247615-judgment/77826218

 

[Son of Sparda]

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/247615-judgment/77826218

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[Linkura]

It's probably the Ebisu Pawn shop owner that's one of them. He wants 5 paintings that you can get through VR middle course top prize and all three casinos to sell to him. One of the paintings is available to buy for 5K SP in the sewers.

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Man fuck all these sidequests that require you to do casino shit.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/247615-judgment/77826218

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Ok this helps, thanks. Still not sure I want to do them though.

 

[Farrac]

Guys, I finally did it. I've been stuck there for ages but I've finally taken Puyo Puyo down. I have no words to express the relief I'm experiencing at this very moment.

 

[NattyBo]

Guys, I finally did it. I've been stuck there for ages but I've finally taken Puyo Puyo down. I have no words to express the relief I'm experiencing at this very moment.

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Man only people that have gone through that hell can understand the sweet relief. Congrats!

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

The story in this game is pretty great.

 

[Diarrhea Day-Lewis]

In chapter 6 and I love this game. Great spin on the Yakuza formula and I loved Yagami character. You guys think we will get a sequel? I'd love to see more

 

[NattyBo]

Anyone got any tips for easy way to get the Poker stuff done? I suck at Poker and even starting with a lot of chips, grinding out 30k is gonna be quite the chore. I don't see that the dude in the Sewers is selling any Poker cheat items, though?

Edit: I somehow have a Royal Joker card in my inventory anyway

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

In chapter 6 and I love this game. Great spin on the Yakuza formula and I loved Yagami character. You guys think we will get a sequel? I'd love to see more

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I don't know if they talked about sequels or not for the game.

 

[Jo-awn]

About 25hrs in and enjoying the game immensely so far. Taking things slow and methodical and trying to absorb everything and do all friend missions and side cases. Also so damn happy Yagami has the tiger drop. I was concerned that it may have been removed or replaced. Feels like a great new series either way. I'm curious of a few things:

-is there a direct correlation to the Yakuza series (outside of known universal characters like ono michio kun)
-Is there an equivalent to Jo Amon (reward for completing all side quests generally). I'm actually hoping that instead of Jo Amon, Kiryu is now the boss that you fight instead to some extent. Would be a pretty cool reward imo.

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1. Aside from in-universe characters and some stuff like the Tojo Clan, no. None of the Yakuza series characters make an appearance to answer part of your second question. Judgment is based on a story Toshiro Nagoshi had.
2. Yes but not Kiryu.

Anyone got any tips for easy way to get the Poker stuff done? I suck at Poker and even starting with a lot of chips, grinding out 30k is gonna be quite the chore. I don't see that the dude in the Sewers is selling any Poker cheat items, though?

Edit: I somehow have a Royal Joker card in my inventory anyway

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The AI is hard to bait into folding for whatever reason may be. It's also quite baffling that the Yakuza franchise as well as this game lack an all-in option. IIRC, the Royal Joker card makes it easier to get good hands. You got it from maxing out the Voluptuous Woman.

The easiest way of going about it is to play high stakes poker, bet the max, hope you get a good hand, and if you do, bet away. If you win a round, quit the game, save scum, repeat until you hit the milestones. It's not too bad but it is quite annoying. Playing poker gets chips faster than blackjack though.

In chapter 6 and I love this game. Great spin on the Yakuza formula and I loved Yagami character. You guys think we will get a sequel? I'd love to see more

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No word yet on the developers' reaction to sale numbers. I'm sure we'll hear something soon. A sequel can go in many directions. I'd certainly be down to see a sequel enhance several features and fix the pacing issues. But I suppose that's what the survey is there for.

 

[hermit]

i swear the AI is cheating in puyo puyo

 

[ClayModel]

As someone one who's played most of the Yakuza games(Y0, 4, Kiwami and 6) this game's pacing sure is slow. 5 hours in and I just got done with chapter 1. Combat is fun enough with Yagami's more agile way of fighting and the enemies actually can do some decent damage in comparison to past Yakuza games. The inventory and economy is I guess improved in the way that you can't break the game by chugging healing items and since cash is strapped initially at least. I'm kinda miffed that side stories happening by stumbling upon them isn't a thing in this, least not yet besides that friend event stuff.

The cast seems interesting enough but I'm still not all that warmed up to Yagami yet. Hopefully by the end, that'll change.

 

[Holundrian]

Anyone got any tips for easy way to get the Poker stuff done? I suck at Poker and even starting with a lot of chips, grinding out 30k is gonna be quite the chore. I don't see that the dude in the Sewers is selling any Poker cheat items, though?

Edit: I somehow have a Royal Joker card in my inventory anyway

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I think you can get poker cheat items only from befriending the blue dressed girl in L'amant or fulfilling the first mahjong request from Tachibana(no points hands).

Honestly poker is generally easy to win but you gotta play it in the boring way. Fold out all hands that suck. If you don't have at least a pair after seeing the first three cards your hand likely sucks not worth it betting it on some lucky draw on the forth/fifth card.
You can often win with simple double pairs. Also if the AI aggressively raises you always consider that their hand might be really good. So if your hand is more on the common side it's probably going to be beaten.

 

[chandoog]

Finished Chapter 8 earlier tonight. Really loving the game and the story is getting more interesting with each passing chapter.

It's fantastic to see RGG studio improve with each game. The direction, atmosphere etc is superb.

 

[Lusankya]

Anyone got any tips for easy way to get the Poker stuff done? I suck at Poker and even starting with a lot of chips, grinding out 30k is gonna be quite the chore. I don't see that the dude in the Sewers is selling any Poker cheat items, though?

Edit: I somehow have a Royal Joker card in my inventory anyway

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The AI is dumb as bricks in poker and will rarely fold even if it's clear you have a triple, straight, or a flush. So play really defensively and just go all out on good hands.
I think if you win 1000 chips and then lose 1000 chips the game will still count the 1000 as winnings for completion, even if you don't back out and save.

But generally you shouldn't lose a lot of chips here.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

Just finished the story and it's a rollercoaster.

 

[Aswitch]

1. Aside from in-universe characters and some stuff like the Tojo Clan, no. None of the Yakuza series characters make an appearance to answer part of your second question. Judgment is based on a story Toshiro Nagoshi had.
2. Yes but not Kiryu.

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Ok great. I'm now encouraged to do everything now.

 

[Darkwing-Buck]

how many chapters are there?

 

[Schlauchkopf]

how many chapters are there?

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13

 

[Romain]

I managed to get a 47 win streak in Puyo Puyo! I was dead tired when I beat Rulue (the last character I had to beat) but I still wanted to see how far I could go. I kept a recording of that game, I'll probably upload it one of these days. I've completed both the arcades and all three mahjong places. Now I must do the Shogi stuff but I suck at it. Is there a guide somewhere for all the Shogi objectives?

 

[Lusankya]

I managed to get a 47 win streak in Puyo Puyo! I was dead tired when I beat Rulue (the last character I had to beat) but I still wanted to see how far I could go. I kept a recording of that game, I'll probably upload it one of these days. I've completed both the arcades and all three mahjong places. Now I must do the Shogi stuff but I suck at it. Is there a guide somewhere for all the Shogi objectives?

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Use an app on your phone. Play against the hardest difficulty level CPU there and just mimic their moves.

 

[pray_bentos]

I've hardly had a chance to play this but the House of The Dead minigame is fucking nuts.

 

[bell wood's jet cola]

Am I the only person who constantly bumps into pedestrians? Feel like I'm playing RDR2 all over again. Thankfully they don't call the cops.

 

[FallenGrace]

I managed to get a 47 win streak in Puyo Puyo! I was dead tired when I beat Rulue (the last character I had to beat) but I still wanted to see how far I could go. I kept a recording of that game, I'll probably upload it one of these days. I've completed both the arcades and all three mahjong places. Now I must do the Shogi stuff but I suck at it. Is there a guide somewhere for all the Shogi objectives?

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I followed this guy for the challenges, haven't found the puzzle Shogi yet.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NgxxVEXfUUI

 

[Dmax3901]

I've played 0, Kiwami and Kiwami 2, and I'm only up to Chapter 5 in this, but so far I think I'd put the story second after 0.

 

[Schlauchkopf]

I've played 0, Kiwami and Kiwami 2, and I'm only up to Chapter 5 in this, but so far I think I'd put the story second after 0.

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It helps that this is generally more grounded than the Yakuza games and there are no legacy characters to try to shove into the plot somehow. (Not to mention having to find a reason for the retired Kiryu to get back into the action everytime.)

My only real gripe is how they resolved the thing with (Ending Spoilers!)

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Shono. Such a soap opera way to go. Would've rather just have Yagami sock him in the face during his self righteous speech. He'd get the death sentence anyway. I guess they needed the eye reveal but that could've easily fallen to Kuroiwa.

 

[Romain]

I followed this guy for the challenges, haven't found the puzzle Shogi yet.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NgxxVEXfUUI

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Thanks for the video. I tried loading the first challenge but the pieces in the game aren't set up like the ones in the video.

 

[Lusankya]

Thanks for the video. I tried loading the first challenge but the pieces in the game aren't set up like the ones in the video.

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Yeah, they're different in the English version.
Here's a vid for the English puzzles if you're interested:

 

[Ailanthium]

My only real gripe is how they resolved the thing with (Ending Spoilers!)

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Shono. Such a soap opera way to go. Would've rather just have Yagami sock him in the face during his self righteous speech. He'd get the death sentence anyway. I guess they needed the eye reveal but that could've easily fallen to Kuroiwa.

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On one hand, I would've liked to see him put behind bars forever, but I think it works as a conclusion to his character arc in that he really did believe that he could fix it and up until the end it left the player guessing as to whether he could or not. Juxtaposed with Kido's testimony where he stated that the toxin used in AD-9 had zero chance of being a viable cure for dementia, it really showed how desperate Shono was for it to work, because if it didn't then he could have no way of justifying to himself that he had murdered innocent people for literally no reason. That scene showed that he was even willing to become a subject himself when backed into a corner. His ironic death by injection of AD-9 was made all the worse because he realized the real pain and suffering he was putting his victims through and the futility of it all, while being behind bars (or being given the death sentence) would have allowed him to believe that it still could have worked and that he was right to have pursued that possibility.

 

[Deleted member 13155]

Yeah that scene absolutely worked.

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It showed how bat shit insane Shono was. The guy started to believe more and more of his own delusions. In the end he even convinced himself that he finally found the cure. And Kido testifying about AD-9 always being deadly (information provided by Shono even) at the very same moment Shono is going to use it made it powerful.

As for Kuroiwa, I think it was also good. He was a gun for hire (most he did prior to the game is killing the vice director, and delivering 3 Yakuza) but not the kind of psycho killer who would stab eyes out. He never understood why the corpses were mutilated like that either and it shows. He went on for a different reason, he thought that solving AD-9 would erase his crimes which is why he didn't want to stop. He was in deep shit.

 

[chandoog]

Yeah, they're different in the English version.
Here's a vid for the English puzzles if you're interested:

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Oh sweet. Bookmarking this for when I need it later.

For all the love I give these games, I can't or won't ever get into the shogi, mahjong etc type games.

 

[Lusankya]

Oh sweet. Bookmarking this for when I need it later.

For all the love I give these games, I can't or won't ever get into the shogi, mahjong etc type games.

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Well, in Shogi you need to get good like Chess and that of course takes a long time, but Mahjong is actually quite easy, once you've read the rules. It's like poker (or more like Rummy if you've played that) in a way that you need to form hands. And you don't need to get good as there is a big random factor so you just need to play it and after a while you will just fulfill all the goals automatically.

 

[FallenGrace]

Thanks for the video. I tried loading the first challenge but the pieces in the game aren't set up like the ones in the video.

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Make sure to pick the same challenge from him, I think I linked you 7 & 8 and make sure to get the right option of going first or second as he does and it will play out identically.

 

[NattyBo]

Thank y'all for the Shogi stuff. That is by far my biggest hurdle left. Well, Koi Koi and Oicho Kabu, too.

Actually, while I'm here, shadowman16 do you know the best strategy for trying to clear the Koi Koi and Oicho Kabu requirements without really knowing the game?

Like, my plan for right now is to buy the 2x 10kSP cheat charms and have a bunch of wooden tags to bet, but those cheat items are only good for one hand IIRC? I feel like I'm at my limit for new sub games learned between mahjong, Puyo Puyo, poker...

 

[shadowman16]

Thank y'all for the Shogi stuff. That is by far my biggest hurdle left. Well, Koi Koi and Oicho Kabu, too.

Actually, while I'm here, shadowman16 do you know the best strategy for trying to clear the Koi Koi and Oicho Kabu requirements without really knowing the game?

Like, my plan for right now is to buy the 2x 10kSP cheat charms and have a bunch of wooden tags to bet, but those cheat items are only good for one hand IIRC? I feel like I'm at my limit for new sub games learned between mahjong, Puyo Puyo, poker...

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Oichi Kabu is so darn easy you don't need to know anything. Bet as much as you can and try to get as close as to 9 as possible. That's it.

As for Koi Koi. No. Learn the best hands, you won't get anywhere without knowing those, as I'm sure I've said many times before look up Barticle's guides on gambling for previous Yakuza games as those detail the hands you need to get.

 

[NattyBo]

Oichi Kabu is so darn easy you don't need to know anything. Bet as much as you can and try to get as close as to 9 as possible. That's it.

As for Koi Koi. No. Learn the best hands, you won't get anywhere without knowing those, as I'm sure I've said many times before look up Barticle's guides on gambling for previous Yakuza games as those detail the hands you need to get.

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Ah ok I was just thinking there might be a workaround I didn't know about. I'll check out Barticles guide for Koi Koi. You think it's worth it to grind the SP for the cheat item?

 

[shadowman16]

Ah ok I was just thinking there might be a workaround I didn't know about. I'll check out Barticles guide for Koi Koi. You think it's worth it to grind the SP for the cheat item?

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What do the cheat items do? Never touched them myself so can't say if they are worth buying or not.

 

[UnluckyKate]

Kaito keeps being the best bro. Its insane how much bro he is.

I also love Hayabe character concept. informant cop being information broker with a price grid ? He's so perfect in every interaction we get too.

This game has a stellar casting and to me gets close to Yakuza zero level of fun and wits in writting

 

[NattyBo]

What do the cheat items do? Never touched them myself so can't say if they are worth buying or not.

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I think they just make an unbeatable hand appear, like the other cheat items. Probably not worth it since only one use

 

[shadowman16]

I think they just make an unbeatable hand appear, like the other cheat items. Probably not worth it since only one use

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Well it'd be a great way to grind wins, though for Koi Koi its played over rounds. So if you only get one awesome hand per play, that's not a great deal. If it gives you an unbeatable hand each round, that'd be a game changer - as You'd set the difficulty all the way up, max out betting and rounds and laugh at the AI.

 

[Kirbivore]

Koi Koi was rather easy to grasp. Until I jacked up the rounds. But I only did it enough to get enough tags for the free pass and skill book

 

[FallenGrace]

Mahjong feels way harder than the Yakuza games. I swear half my draws are useless Dragon tiles while they riichi in like 5 turns.