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JP3 is better then TLW
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i agree
only because the "heroes" in jurassic park 2 are dumbasses and are responsible for like every death in the movie
only because the "heroes" in jurassic park 2 are dumbasses and are responsible for like every death in the movie
Why can't we have a discussion about this without "no your wrong" and "movie is trash" nonsense?
I swear, I can have discussions anywhere offline avoiding all of this crap, but log on and try and you get countless people using really needless language and posturing like their subjective opinion is truth.
Anyway....
I don't think either film is particularly good, but then I only watched them once at release and I honestly can't remember much of either. I should probably give them both a watch again to see what I think now. Good excuse to rewatch the entire series.....
I swear, I can have discussions anywhere offline avoiding all of this crap, but log on and try and you get countless people using really needless language and posturing like their subjective opinion is truth.
Anyway....
I don't think either film is particularly good, but then I only watched them once at release and I honestly can't remember much of either. I should probably give them both a watch again to see what I think now. Good excuse to rewatch the entire series.....
I've always thought it was universally agreed upon that TLW was the absolute worst. I don't think my family even owned it when I was kid. We all just skipped to Jurassic park 3 and didn't even count it as a real entry. Remember watching it once and it was god awful
Jp3 had some great moments. The one where the guy runs out in front of the plane begging them to stop has stuck with me a long time as one of the best scenes in the movie.
Jp3 had some great moments. The one where the guy runs out in front of the plane begging them to stop has stuck with me a long time as one of the best scenes in the movie.
OP, you have my sword. I always liked JP3.
I'ts not even in the same realm as the first film, but it's decent enough. The latest films make it look fantastic in hindsight.
I'ts not even in the same realm as the first film, but it's decent enough. The latest films make it look fantastic in hindsight.
The only JP3 scene I remember enjoying was the aviary attack scene because I loved how it looked.
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It's time to celebrate the anniversary of Jurassic Park III with this wind-howling scene that will keep you wanting more. Dr. Alan Grant (Sam Neill) takes fl...
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some dinos could have just boarded the ship as they were setting off and killed everyone whilst trex was locked up, then abandoned ship once everyone died.
See, this is why people hate on this scene so much. They're so distracted by the talking raptor, which raptor communication has been perfectly set up as the current driving force in Grant's research in previous scenes so it's natural he would have a nightmare like this, that they don't pick up on the tiny details of the raptor clutching the seat in front of it. Once your imagination fills in the gaps that are off camera all you can see is an adorable therapod riding in a plane with its seatbelt on and wondering if it's okay to recline its seat.
I am actually a huge Tea Leoni fan so I like 3 better.
But honestly they are both really bad and have some REALLY stupid scenes.
But honestly they are both really bad and have some REALLY stupid scenes.
In Jurassic Park III, Dr. Grant (unsuccessfully) coaxes Ellie's parrot to say his name, because of his interest in raptor vocalization and his belief that dinosaurs evolved into birds. This ties into the infamous "talking" raptor scene, where the raptor DOES say his name.
Nah TLW is better even despite some lows. JP3 isn't nearly as cohesive overall.
TLW has some great atmosphere and physicality to it. Julianne Moore is great, Goldblum, Postlethwaite, and even Peter Stormare getting merked by Compsognathus. It's even got my favourite quote for tall grass areas :p
I liked the ending because it calls back to the novel in how dinos did end up getting off island.
TLW has some great atmosphere and physicality to it. Julianne Moore is great, Goldblum, Postlethwaite, and even Peter Stormare getting merked by Compsognathus. It's even got my favourite quote for tall grass areas :p
I liked the ending because it calls back to the novel in how dinos did end up getting off island.
The truck sequence is better than anything in JP3.
TLW ain't great and tries some way to be a worthy follow-up to Jurassic Park, but it can't live up to it. But it's not without its creativity.
JP3 is pretty much completely resigned to be a goofy monster movie, that occasionally has to look in awe of the dinosaurs for like 1 scene. B-movie slashers are fun, but this isn't a great one.
TLW ain't great and tries some way to be a worthy follow-up to Jurassic Park, but it can't live up to it. But it's not without its creativity.
JP3 is pretty much completely resigned to be a goofy monster movie, that occasionally has to look in awe of the dinosaurs for like 1 scene. B-movie slashers are fun, but this isn't a great one.
I. Love. The Lost World. JP3 is just ok which is sad because it could have been a great concept I think the cast and script isn't that great though.
Maybe a hotter take but I like every movie in Jurrasic World trilogy more than 3.
Maybe a hotter take but I like every movie in Jurrasic World trilogy more than 3.
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Never understood why so many people $&@" on this scene. The Jurassic Park fiasco is still probably still fresh in Grants mind and he really doesn't want to go back to the island that Jurrasic park is built on other than doing a fly by tour (which he was lied about)
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Thank you guys!In Jurassic Park III, Dr. Grant (unsuccessfully) coaxes Ellie's parrot to say his name, because of his interest in raptor vocalization and his belief that dinosaurs evolved into birds. This ties into the infamous "talking" raptor scene, where the raptor DOES say his name.
Like a lot of relatively average movies which received a cold reception on release, time has been kind to the JP sequels in general and in this case it's boosted even further due to major disappointment with the new Jurassic trilogy.
Personally I enjoy them much more than the JW movies, which commit the biggest crime of just feeling soulless. LW and JP3 are super campy and character motivations are uniformly ridiculous, but some of the dinos are cool and both movies have some pretty great set piece action sequences.
Not to mention that given JP3's production in particular, it's amazing they released anything vaguely coherent at all.
Yup lol. Garbage movie. JP3 has one great scene compared to a half dozen great scenes in TLW. I still don't understand the decision behind this moment on the gif. One of the most baffling choices in the entire series.
See, I find that to be an apt description of JP3: soulless. Clearly a film that was only made because there were still a few more dollars to be squeezed out of the franchise. It literally has nothing to say and has no reason to exist. And it's ambitions were nil.
At least with Lost World, there were clear ambitions to make it every bit as good as JP1, if not better. It failed in those ambitions, but at least it had them. Be it the arrival of the larger crew sent by InGen as they're all driving and capturing dinos, the caravan scene with the baby t-rex, the tall grass scene with the raptors, the compsognathus attacks, the T-Rex attack on the camp, and of course the T-Rex reaching San Diego...
Like, most all of those scenes were hugely ambitious. I actually find Lost World to be underrated, if anything. JP3 was just a soulless cash grab.
I will never stop saying this.
I'd rather watch the gymnastics scene a thousand times on repeat than watch JP3 once. JP3 is a poorly-funded, poorly-acted, poorly-created embarrassment and an offence to film making. And if you think TLW is somehow worse then you need to reevaluate your opinion on…well everything.
I'd rather watch the gymnastics scene a thousand times on repeat than watch JP3 once. JP3 is a poorly-funded, poorly-acted, poorly-created embarrassment and an offence to film making. And if you think TLW is somehow worse then you need to reevaluate your opinion on…well everything.
I turned 12 on July 18th, 2001, the day JP3 came out.
I hyped it up from the moment I heard about it for the first time during teaser that dropped season finale of the first season of Survivor.
The first film blew my little 3 year old mind, then The Lost World did the same when I was 8.
I remember vividly walking out of the movie theater on that day in July 2001. I cried because I hated it so much.
I've since grown to appreciate it for the mess that it was, and have also found something to love about the World films, but at the end of the day, Jurassic Park is still a perfect film.
I hyped it up from the moment I heard about it for the first time during teaser that dropped season finale of the first season of Survivor.
The first film blew my little 3 year old mind, then The Lost World did the same when I was 8.
I remember vividly walking out of the movie theater on that day in July 2001. I cried because I hated it so much.
I've since grown to appreciate it for the mess that it was, and have also found something to love about the World films, but at the end of the day, Jurassic Park is still a perfect film.
JP3 is legit the 2nd best of the Jurassic movies. Dumb fun that moves along at a nice pace and is only let down by an abrupt anticlimactic ending (budget issues?).
Loved Lost World as a kid but when I watched it as an adult it felt like kind of a mess. I enjoyed the San Diego bullshit but that's about it.
All 3 of the OG trilogy are better than the new ones though
Loved Lost World as a kid but when I watched it as an adult it felt like kind of a mess. I enjoyed the San Diego bullshit but that's about it.
All 3 of the OG trilogy are better than the new ones though
My older brother took me and my other brother to see The Lost World when it was released and it was so unforgivably boring that my 9-year-old dinosaur-loving ass almost dozed off in the cinema. Jurassic Park 3 is a sloppy mess but at least there was some entertainment value in how crap it was.
JP3 was getting hit with script changes and rewrites literally while they were filming. It was a production mess. So many elements had to be cut or reused and framed for different purposes. It feels like a rushed disaster at several points because that's exactly what it is. Not without its charms, but clunky because it was flying by the seat of its pants.
As much as people shit on it, Jurassic World is basically the sequel that people wanted to Jurassic Park all along, and even if was done by a much lesser director, the fact that it more or less nailed that aspect of it was good enough.
JP > World > TLW > JP3 > Dominion > Fallen Kingdom
Actually to be honest FK and Dominion both suck, but I think I might like Dominion better just because it has OG cast characters.
JP > World > TLW > JP3 > Dominion > Fallen Kingdom
Actually to be honest FK and Dominion both suck, but I think I might like Dominion better just because it has OG cast characters.
The ending was super sudden. I think they just ran out of budget lol
I love JP3 and think the Spinosaurus is a great addition to the franchise. The Lost World was such a disappointment to me because I went into the movie having read the book not long before and the book is so much better than the movie it's not even funny.
I also felt like the whole San Diego section was dumb and pointless and the book ended far better.
Overall I like 3 aside from the Spino v Rex thing, which they could have fixed by having the Spino kill the Rex in water if they wanted to go that route.
Anyways, the Spino, aviary (which was a great part of the books) and the ending being a bit non standard were all things I enjoyed about the movie.
It's a shame they can't really bring the Spino back in the movie franchise without a vast majority of people wanting it murked by a Rex, it's a cool dino that has only gotten cooler scientifically since being in that film and has a ton of potential to be a great scary scene stealing monster when used right.
I also felt like the whole San Diego section was dumb and pointless and the book ended far better.
Overall I like 3 aside from the Spino v Rex thing, which they could have fixed by having the Spino kill the Rex in water if they wanted to go that route.
Anyways, the Spino, aviary (which was a great part of the books) and the ending being a bit non standard were all things I enjoyed about the movie.
It's a shame they can't really bring the Spino back in the movie franchise without a vast majority of people wanting it murked by a Rex, it's a cool dino that has only gotten cooler scientifically since being in that film and has a ton of potential to be a great scary scene stealing monster when used right.
