get the fuck out of here, lol
it's definitely been more middling. It depends on the product line honestly
also, this dude is definitely going to be making bank with his new consulting firm
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Jony Ive is leaving Apple
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get the fuck out of here, lol
it's definitely been more middling. It depends on the product line honestly
also, this dude is definitely going to be making bank with his new consulting firm
Yikes at this take
They've still been best of class in regards to design - have they significantly innovated/changed things up like Jobs did? No, but they were still creating top notch hardware
just judging on looks only.
used to be a big fan of their designs, these days you get cheese graters and upside down mice more often than not.
Ive hasn't been working on their designs for years now. These "his Apple design have been stale" takes are ... a little uninformed.
People have been calling Mac Pros cheese graters since like '06
what has he been doing then for the past 2 years when they announced this:
"With the completion of Apple Park, Apple's design leaders and teams are again reporting directly to Jony Ive, who remains focused purely on design," Amy Bessette, a company spokeswoman, said Friday in a statement.
Im sure hes a nice guy, no reason to think hes not
BUT
Goddamn I hate Jony Ive lol, HIS NAME IS JONATHAN. He is like, the face and PR of obnoxious product design speak
WE USED QUAXODIUM BRUSHES AND SMOOTHED THE SARLACCIOUS METALS FOR TWO DECADES IN ORDER TO REFINE AN EDGE THAT IS IMPERCEPTIBLE TO HUMANKIND FOR THOUSANDS, NAY ZILLIONS OF YEARS
ugh
Okay, rant done, sorry.
BUT
Goddamn I hate Jony Ive lol, HIS NAME IS JONATHAN. He is like, the face and PR of obnoxious product design speak
WE USED QUAXODIUM BRUSHES AND SMOOTHED THE SARLACCIOUS METALS FOR TWO DECADES IN ORDER TO REFINE AN EDGE THAT IS IMPERCEPTIBLE TO HUMANKIND FOR THOUSANDS, NAY ZILLIONS OF YEARS
ugh
Okay, rant done, sorry.
Hear hear. The iPad Pro is by far the nicest looking Apple product of all time.
The apple watch is ugly as fuck. The new iPad Pro looks amazing. Are you drunk?
probably the second biggest blow after jobs 😢
guy basically dictated the design of every single smartphone for the last decade
guy basically dictated the design of every single smartphone for the last decade
iOS and macOS have never been better.
Desktop Macs are finally back on track now we have an updated Mini and the Mac Pro (the iMac line has always been great).
Don't really have any complaints about the iPhones nor the iPads especially now that there's a low cost iPad and the Mini has returned.
The big problem that needs fixing IMO is the laptops. Some of that is down to Intel but things like the keyboard, the touchbar and the comical lack of I/O are self-made errors.
Desktop Macs are finally back on track now we have an updated Mini and the Mac Pro (the iMac line has always been great).
Don't really have any complaints about the iPhones nor the iPads especially now that there's a low cost iPad and the Mini has returned.
The big problem that needs fixing IMO is the laptops. Some of that is down to Intel but things like the keyboard, the touchbar and the comical lack of I/O are self-made errors.
Skeuomorphism has its virtues, and (like a lot of things in design) goes largely unnoticed by the user when done well. Most GUIs you've ever used implement some form of skeuomorphism. Pre-7 iOS's problem was that it was suffering from an unreasonable and mindless devotion to it.
I don't disagree that a change was in order, but the first few iterations of the new design were junk.
For example, iOS 7 used Helvetica Neue Light, a display weight of a display typeface, for its primary UI font, and it reduced the opacity of drop shadows under text. That is an insane usability/accessibility oversight that should have never made it past prototyping, but Apple was structured such that no one could tell Jony Ive what to do, so these bad decisions were set in stone. Anyone other than Ive would've been demoted for something that stupid.
Ive even left the marketing department in charge of 7's redesigned app icons, and then instructed the app design teams to extrapolate from those icons. In a fucking UI, Ive put form before function. That's stupid any which way, but it's even worse here because iOS 7 came out the other side looking like crap.
It was bound to happen, he has been there so long and I am sure he wants to do a lot more than design just Apple products and have more design freedom.
Still surprising, but the signs were there over the past few years.
I doubt much will change in the short term, he instilled principles and ways of thinking and processes that the team is following and the overall team is staying for now.
Still surprising, but the signs were there over the past few years.
I doubt much will change in the short term, he instilled principles and ways of thinking and processes that the team is following and the overall team is staying for now.
I'd really love to sit down with the people that thought that was a good idea. And the 1st gen Apple Pencil, and the iPhone battery case.
In some respects I think he's had it 'easy' in that designing without real constraints is simultaneously liberating and terribly stifling.
I'd definitely be interested in seeing him work outside of the premium, aluminum box he sort of built himself into.
Wow, best of luck to him. I've owned very few Apple products in my life, but I have ALWAYS been envious of their tech design and have always gravitated toward Apple imitators when it came to Android devices and Windows laptops.
What was some of his work before Apple? If he's big on aluminum I can't really see any of the major console manufacturers going for it.
Wonder if he's allowed to design other computers/smartphones.
No clue, but I would think no. He would probably want to design other products in industry that don't compete with Apple. I just don't see how he could like work with Samsung or another electronics company unless it was given the okay with Apple. But thats just me. Could be totally wrong.
Like maybe designing a OLED 55" TV would be fine if Apple was never planning on releasing one.
Jony got bored. He wanted to design things beyond computers and smartphones. When Apple Park was being built he moved his priorities to agonizing over things like doorknobs and desks. It's time to thank him and let him move on, because his mind is so distant from iPhones and Macs at this point.
It's not a mistake, Apple just doesn't want you to use it wired.
I know nothing of him but if he's to thank for the current lineup of Apple stuff than I'm a fan.
am i overreacting or is the verge's tagline for this a bit... inappropriate?
to me it seems like it is referencing the "Night of the Long Knives":
to me it seems like it is referencing the "Night of the Long Knives":
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I kinda like the original camera one, since using an old fashioned camera is lame.
Absolutely love that GIF. Looking forward to seeing what Apple does next when it comes to its product design.
I wish we would get rid of things like "mail" for email, "phone" for calls, and "camera" for capturing images (picture taking).
He's getting older and probably feels he wants to have a design firm as his legacy, fair play to him, he's brilliant and deserves it. Doesn't seem like much will change anyway, with Apple outsourcing to him + a very likely strong internal design team, unless he's poaching everyone haha.
His work in recent years has been terrible. I mean, the best he could do with iphone X and subsequently XS was take a four year old design (iphone 6) and basically just make it more premium-like? (polished stainless steel, glass back).
Problem is, now I worry if the 2020 iphones are still going to be the same damn form factor.
Problem is, now I worry if the 2020 iphones are still going to be the same damn form factor.
I think it'll all be fine. The problem at the minute is that, as others have said, form has taken precedence over function of late - hence stuff like the keyboard issues with the Macbook.
Anyone anticipating a sudden drop off in design quality is kidding themselves. The designs for the next few years are likely pretty much locked into place. My only concern is that there's nothing in there about a successor. I'm assuming that they must have someone/a plan in place as it's been pretty common knowledge for the past few years that he's been working towards an exit but it'd be good to know what that plan is.
TBH I still see him doing work for Apple. I know that they don't usually work with 3rd parties but I can see the new company he's setting up with Marc Newsom providing things like exclusive Apple Watch straps. It'd be a very marketable association, kind of like they did with the RED phones.
Anyone anticipating a sudden drop off in design quality is kidding themselves. The designs for the next few years are likely pretty much locked into place. My only concern is that there's nothing in there about a successor. I'm assuming that they must have someone/a plan in place as it's been pretty common knowledge for the past few years that he's been working towards an exit but it'd be good to know what that plan is.
TBH I still see him doing work for Apple. I know that they don't usually work with 3rd parties but I can see the new company he's setting up with Marc Newsom providing things like exclusive Apple Watch straps. It'd be a very marketable association, kind of like they did with the RED phones.
A computer mouse that was designed not to be charged while being used so people don't use it wired. Also, its full battery lasts 2 months, and takes literally 2 minutes for a full day of charge.
Isn't jony short for Jonathan. Bit like Chris is short for Christopher and Dick for Richard? Seem like a weird reason to HATE! someone.
That's not actually a line from the verge though.. just from whoever is running that Twitter account (which I presume to be unofficial).
no, that's on the verge website, that twitter account just gets their header and caption daily and posts it
Exactly. I don't get how people don't understand this.
You might hate the decision but it's as intentional as it can be. If you could use it wired a lot of people would wire their mice and Apple didn't want that. They are control freaks and wanted a wireless mice period.
And it charges fast enough that it's never an issue any way. But the design isn't "a mistake" is a clear statement.
Theory is it'll be no bigger than the current 15" just with much thinner bezels.
From what I hear, Ive's branching out into other areas eg. interior design, not just electronics products.
