Don't fuck with Nanny.HELLIONS BREHS
"When I come to punish you, I want to know how many orphans it will make."
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiii-
I took that Selene's generation was the first one.
Haven't read Hellions yet, but that lore in X-Men was amazing. Hickman casually dropping some far reaching continuity expansions here. Second Generation.
And of course, Apocalypse's wife is called Genesis.
Also, I'd never have thought 2020 would see the return of the Externals as a serious concept that could work.
Second Generation since Marvel has the rights to the Conan Setting again so Selene is now once again older than Apocalypse.
Loved Excalibur this week. Love the Externals. Do think it's interesting they are saying that those sacrifice can't even be brought back with the resurrection protocols.
That does imply that there is more than cloning going on when it comes to said protocols.
Yeah, it's a Hickmann thing, so it's an Ex Nihilo.So, is that an Ex Nihilo in that prayer circle or nah?
Because I'm saying that's an Ex Nihilo.
I Wouldn't consider it reality warping. Just magic dispersing the essence in such a way that Xavier's psychic vacuum Cerebro can't capture and store it. So they could all technically be brought back, but they'd be clones rather than originals, or they'd have to use magic or actual reality warping to come back whole.This might be one of the few times that we can handwave it away and simply say "cuz its magic" based on Apocalypse using sorcery?
Mutant reality warping vs. magical reality warping might cancel each other out?
Then these fuckers better go intoNo idea what the fuck happened in Xmen and Excalibur this week. Hellions is messy fun, I think Jean pulled her weight to get Madeline of the board.
Yeah, it's a Hickmann thing, so it's an Ex Nihilo.
Juggernaut shouldn't need to be cleansed anyway considering he's been less villainous for years now, even in his past few appearances before now (which is how I thought his mini would follow up on), plus his magic invulnerability should protect him anyway.I come bearing news from other Marvel stuff.
So a Spider-Man thing was released this week that involves a returning Sin-Eater who now has the ability to cleanse people of their sins and turn villains good. It's strongly implied that there's more to this. Anyway he broke into Ravencroft this week and it looks like Juggernaut was there and he was released and I'm pretty sure cleansed by Sin-Eater (Sin-Eater shot at him, but it cut from the scene so it isn't clear)
So yeah, that looks like it's the lead in to the Juggernaut mini
Juggernaut shouldn't need to be cleansed anyway considering he's been less villainous for years now, even in his past few appearances before now (which is how I thought his mini would follow up on), plus his magic invulnerability should protect him anyway.
Regardless, I'm in for more Cain Marko. At this point, dude should be living on Krakoa.
I'll say it again:Regardless, I'm in for more Cain Marko. At this point, dude should be living on Krakoa.
Give him the mutant power to always lose 🤷♂️I'll say it again:
Give Cain an X-Gene that his Cytorrak powers mask.
Give him a power that is super mundane, has nothing to do with his Juggernaut powers, and no one would realize he even had when he wasn't powered.
You'd be cranky too if you got locked up randomly again, especially in a asylum instead of a regular prison. They could've at least put him in Rykers.He came out on some "I'M GONNA KILL YOU" shit so maybe Ravencroft made him cranky
Nah, keep him X-Gene free. His connection to Chuck is enough; he should get a pass like Corsair gets a pass.I'll say it again:
Give Cain an X-Gene that his Cytorrak powers mask.
Give him a power that is super mundane, has nothing to do with his Juggernaut powers, and no one would realize he even had when he wasn't powered.
Yeah, I think he's the only human living on the island, beyond the depowered mutants who haven't allowed themselves to be murdered by Apocalypse yet of course.
But Charles doesn't like Cain. His connection to Tom would be a better argument.Nah, keep him X-Gene free. His connection to Chuck is enough; he should get a pass like Corsair gets a pass.
The last time the two saw each other was before Charles was killed by Cyclops, and they were on amicable terms. Saying that they don't like each other is kind of a stretch these days, especially with Juggernaut joining up with Not-Magneto to save mutants before he discovered it was actually Joseph and then teamed up with Cyclops.But Charles doesn't like Cain. His connection to Tom would be a better argument.
And I meant more along the lines of my go to example: Perfect Accent Mimicry
Just because I don't hate someone anymore doesn't mean I like them.The last time the two saw each other was before Charles was killed by Cyclops, and they were on amicable terms. Saying that they don't like each other is kind of a stretch these days, especially with Juggernaut joining up with Not-Magneto to save mutants before he discovered it was actually Joseph and then teamed up with Cyclops.
Perfect accent mimicry is too useful. His power, if he's going to have one, should literally the fact that he's tall as shit and muscular without all of the negative impacts such a thing normally has on real world tall as shit people.
The last time the two saw each other was before Charles was killed by Cyclops, and they were on amicable terms. Saying that they don't like each other is kind of a stretch these days, especially with Juggernaut joining up with Not-Magneto to save mutants before he discovered it was actually Joseph and then teamed up with Cyclops.
Perfect accent mimicry is too useful. His power, if he's going to have one, should literally the fact that he's tall as shit and muscular without all of the negative impacts such a thing normally has on real world tall as shit people.
I started with House of X/Powers of X which sets up the new status quo, after that it seems like the titles all work on their own but I'm not deep into it yet so I'm not sure if tnat changes.If I wanted to start reading this could I just read new mutants and X-men or would I need to get some of the other series
I'll say it again:
Give Cain an X-Gene that his Cytorrak powers mask.
Give him a power that is super mundane, has nothing to do with his Juggernaut powers, and no one would realize he even had when he wasn't powered.
His first instinct after finding out Charles was dead was to go after and murder Cyclops. They can't be that antagonistic toward each other if he was aiming to do that.Are you talking about X-Men Legacy? Because I'm not sure I'd call their interactions there amicable.
That's fair, I'll take it.Just because I don't hate someone anymore doesn't mean I like them.
And perfect accent mimcry seems pretty edge case useful to me since it's not perfect voice mimicry. It just a parlor trick anyone who works at it can do, except he doesn't have to work at it. And every now and then they have a need for the guy whose main power is running into atuff really hard and who stands out in literally every crowd to sound convincingly Australian.
Thanks for the clarification, I only read it in the context of the issue, and that missing tribe, and honestly thought Apocalypse was older than Selene.
Yeah, I read up on that after your post. Marvel hammered Apocalypse as the first mutant for so long that this never crossed my mind.Marvel lost the rights to Conan they basically stopped using Selene for a while since her origin is tied to the Hyborian Age.
In the mean time they made Apocalypse, introduced that he was the first mutant, and tied him to ancient Egypt. Selene was then tied more to ancient Rome, which she already had ties to anyways and they just stopped mentioning how damn old she was.
Then the rights to Conan were required and well... Here we are. Because Hickman loves a good continuity deep dive.
The Dark Sisterhood later regrouped but they lost the Dark Mother who was assassinated by the Marauders on orders of Mr. Sinister who was eliminating those with precognitive abilities.
I actually really like that the Space Knights are being used and that they're huge assholes.
Also, judging from Cable's letter to DP, the old man has a backup plan in case of assassination by a version of himself. I wonder what the mutants will do if another Cable shows up, due to the rule against not allowing duplicates to exist.
My guess is that it takes place before the current External stuff considering how not worn she is over there.Wow, what an amazing week for X-comics.
I read Captain America this week too and Selene has been in Captain America for a while now, how does that factor into the current X-Men comics?
The story started before Dawn of X and got delayed a bit. The plan was probably to finish it up before the Dawn of X stuff was done and have her be part of the general amnesty.Wow, what an amazing week for X-comics.
I read Captain America this week too and Selene has been in Captain America for a while now, how does that factor into the current X-Men comics?
The story started before Dawn of X and got delayed a bit. The plan was probably to finish it up before the Dawn of X stuff was done and have her be part of the general amnesty.
But hey at least she killed Hydra Cap so the story was with it.
Issue #8 according to Marvel wiki.
Captain America #8. It is so satisfying because They have him get freed from prison. Make it seem like he's going to be the big bad of the arc. That it's gonna build to Cap v Hydra Cap and then. Selene fights and kills him in 3 pages 😍
Exactly.So basically X of Swords is going to be Apocalypse going all"well guess what folks, I tried the whole mutants on Krakoa thing a few milennias ago and you're not going to believe it but shit didn't work out and hmmm they've all been stranded in a mystical dimension in the rift between Krakoa and Arrako all that time, fighting against a demonic army, crazy right?... could we spare a few fighters to help them out? I swear I'm not fucking with you guys. Guys?"
I can dig it.
Did anyone actually like Gideon, I mean among fans? I hated the character in a just die already way since his 2nd appearance.Exactly.
With the added effect of potentially importing a god of destruction from another dimension because why the fuck not
Also"Look, I might have sacrificed 4 immortal mutants to power a gate to Saturnyne's realm, but who's counting? Nobody liked them."