To be fair only namor actually committed genocide the rest couldn't bring themselves to do itHickman's Avengers were destroying alternate Earths. He just seems to like taking heroes in a dark direction.
To be fair only namor actually committed genocide the rest couldn't bring themselves to do itHickman's Avengers were destroying alternate Earths. He just seems to like taking heroes in a dark direction.
yeah i think its truer to say that Hickman really likes putting the heroes into just really difficult positions where the good thing to do just isnt as obvious as it usually is.To be fair only namor actually committed genocide the rest couldn't bring themselves to do it
To be fair only namor actually committed genocide the rest couldn't bring themselves to do it
Still. The new X-men are brainwashing government officials and making allies with villains. I can hardly call them heroes anymore.
It's not that heroes are all squeaky clean but this is a step too far.
It's more like countries aren't squeaky clean. The fact is Krakoa isn't doing anything to secure its own sovereignty that's worse than what any other nation has done to achieve the same goal. X-Force will be particularly interesting on this front.
We're basically beyond simplistic hero/villain stuff.
I mean those villains are murderers and have ruined many lives. Why do they get off clean? Just because the humans were mean to them?
Surely it means Moira is now resurrectable and there are infinite lives to go at?
I think this is the possible "extra" life that Destiny alluded to... before killing Moira for attempting to extinguish the mutant race.Surely it means Moira is now resurrectable and there are infinite lives to go at?
What's tweaking me right now is - why did their plan require them to play Heroes and Villains for ten years?
please everyone read Immortal Hulk and after every issue know that you ain't seen shit yet
So what was the status of the M-dayed mutants anyway? Are they able to come to krakoa? Could they be resurrected with their powers back?
Surely it means Moira is now resurrectable and there are infinite lives to go at?
Ok, I've been thinking about how you create forward-moving tension in a paradigm where you have infinite lives. Sure, there are lots of small ways to have tension on an in the moment basis. The tension between mutants and humans will still exist and certainly be a plot point. But ultimately, where does it go?
I have this very strong suspicion that we'll find that out in PoX #6. We'll know this all ends in disaster. We'll get a brief glance of how. We won't know exactly how it gets there... but we'll witness it, like a trainwreck in slow motion over the course of the next year or so of books.
Add in deleted memories, which would of course happen, you can get some interesting stuff.IMO, Hickman is still being ultimately vague about the resurrection and issues like the "soul". When Scott bid his goodbye, when he told Jean he wasn't going to make it, it didn't sound like someone who knew that Xavier would resurrect them personally.
One way you create tension with infinite lives is if people begin to feel existential dread. What if mutants as a people become immortal at the expense of valuing individual lives?
Depending on how dark this gets, what if the mutant leadership deems it permissible to execute mutants who get out of line and cause trouble, with the justification they'll just resurrect a new version later?
Wait.
Cyclops's inability to control his powers is partly due to a brain injury received from falling out a plane.
When Xavier frist ressurects Scott his powers are active but undercontrol, then Xavier does his thing and gives Scott the visor.
Is Xavier forcing a brain injury on Scott?
So what was the status of the M-dayed mutants anyway? Are they able to come to krakoa? Could they be resurrected with their powers back?
Ok, I've been thinking about how you create forward-moving tension in a paradigm where you have infinite lives. Sure, there are lots of small ways to have tension on an in the moment basis. The tension between mutants and humans will still exist and certainly be a plot point. But ultimately, where does it go?
I have this very strong suspicion that we'll find that out in PoX #6. We'll know this all ends in disaster. We'll get a brief glance of how. We won't know exactly how it gets there... but we'll witness it, like a trainwreck in slow motion over the course of the next year or so of books.
who actually wanted this fucking outfit back? she looks like she's going to a 70s swinger party.
It's not the injury it's a childhood trauma thing.Wait.
Cyclops's inability to control his powers is partly due to a brain injury received from falling out a plane.
When Xavier frist ressurects Scott his powers are active but undercontrol, then Xavier does his thing and gives Scott the visor.
Is Xavier forcing a brain injury on Scott?
It's partially psychosomatic.During Whedon's run, Cyclops said that the injury healed a long time ago, and now his inability to control his power was psychosomatic.
Childhood trauma. Because the childhood trauma only explains a bit of it. He nearly died, yes. But he didn't, and he saved his younger brother.
Surely it means Moira is now resurrectable and there are infinite lives to go at?
Surely it means Moira is now resurrectable and there are infinite lives to go at?
Like I said somewhere Johnny Blaze, Valkyrie, all the other people in charge of afterlife are looking really confused right nowSo the way the mutants are being resurrected, they're just making copies aren't they? Identical copies with copies of their "souls" downloaded from Cerebro. Basically the same sprt of thing Iron Man does with a.i. How does that work in terms of the afterlife, which we know exists in the Marvel U? Is heaven and hell gonna end up with multiple copies of the same mutants?
Like I said somewhere Johnny Blaze, Valkyrie, all the other people in charge of afterlife are looking really confused right now
That's probably the real answer to all this they souls go backMaybe their souls are sucked back to the new bodies when everything is good to go?
Like a kind of magnetism.
but then there how a lot of the infrodump surrounding this process seem to imply that duplicates can happen, so the heck will a soul do if there are two bodies that fit?That's probably the real answer to all this they souls go back
But it's funnier to think the afterlife getting real crowded
Death is used to people cheating her and still allows even if she could easily stop since she's deathhigher powers are going to drop in and have a chat with Xavier about his little enterprise
but then there how a lot of the infrodump surrounding this process seem to imply that duplicates can happen, so the heck will a soul do if there are two bodies that fit?
there can only be one?
So the way the mutants are being resurrected, they're just making copies aren't they? Identical copies with copies of their "souls" downloaded from Cerebro. Basically the same sprt of thing Iron Man does with a.i. How does that work in terms of the afterlife, which we know exists in the Marvel U? Is heaven and hell gonna end up with multiple copies of the same mutants?
To be fair according to Death no one had died as much as Scarlet Spider because miles kept bringing him back and then killing all the timeThe last Scarlet Spider series seemed to indicate that a perfect clone keeps the original's soul if it is created after the original's death (if they're killed and brought back multiple times like that the soul itself is damaged though).
Yeah this is not to my liking and why I will stop with this book. I know characters aren't perfect but between and the cult behavior these are not the X-men i grew up reading. I'm disappointed.Still. The new X-men are brainwashing government officials and making allies with villains. I can hardly call them heroes anymore.
It's not that heroes are all squeaky clean but this is a step too far.
Marvel has turned the X-men into a cult.
Yeah this is not to my liking and why I will stop with this book. I know characters aren't perfect but between and the cult behavior these are not the X-men i grew up reading. I'm disappointed.