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Something I thought was interesting that may have flown under the radar here: Cullen Bunn did an interview on his Xmen runs, and gave some feedback on things he wanted to do.
This probably answers why we never saw the absolutely ludicrous Villainous Emma that was set up by IvX. Fans weren't happy with that at ALL.
Had Bunn been allowed to continue with his ideas, we would have gotten "Maggot: horseman of Apocalypse."
and perhaps the most interesting thing:
Bunn makes it clear that there were things he was Not Allowed To Do because Marvel had already decided they were doing Big Things with the X-men by the time he was writing Uncanny. Those Big Things turned out to be House of X.
Bunn wrote Uncanny vol. 4 #1 which hit stands in January of 2016, and he was writing it (obviously) months prior- so House of X was likely in the planning stages far longer than most of us assumed, if Bunn is being truthful here.
Also:
The original pitch for Xmen: Blue was to eventually turn it into Exiles, which is why Jimmy Hudson and Bloodstorm made it into the book.
This probably answers why we never saw the absolutely ludicrous Villainous Emma that was set up by IvX. Fans weren't happy with that at ALL.
Had Bunn been allowed to continue with his ideas, we would have gotten "Maggot: horseman of Apocalypse."
and perhaps the most interesting thing:
Bunn makes it clear that there were things he was Not Allowed To Do because Marvel had already decided they were doing Big Things with the X-men by the time he was writing Uncanny. Those Big Things turned out to be House of X.
Bunn wrote Uncanny vol. 4 #1 which hit stands in January of 2016, and he was writing it (obviously) months prior- so House of X was likely in the planning stages far longer than most of us assumed, if Bunn is being truthful here.
Also:
The original pitch for Xmen: Blue was to eventually turn it into Exiles, which is why Jimmy Hudson and Bloodstorm made it into the book.
Marvel Jan solicits are out this week, but here's what we have so far; basically everything staggers at launch and everything double-ships in Dec where all the #4 issues land on the same date (12/18). Next confirmed book is Wolverine in Feb.
10/16
X-Men #1
10/23
Marauders #1
10/30
Excalibur #!
11/6
New Mutants #1
X-Force #1
11/13
Fallen Angels #1
X-Men #2
11/20
Excalibur #2
Marauders #2
11/27
Fallen Angels #2
New Mutants #2
X-Force #2
12/4
Excalibur #3
Marauders #3
X-Men #3
12/11
Fallen Angels #3
New Mutants #3
X-Force #3
12/18
Excalibur #4
Fallen Angels #4
Marauders #4
New Mutants #4
X-Force #4
X-Men #4
Chris Claremont has leaked in interviews that he's working on something X-men related with Salvador Larocca.
Cripes, I really left the door open for that one.
He's the best there is a what he does, even if what he does isn't pretty (because the word balloons cover up all the art). But if he brings the focused totality of his writing powers to bear, he's nigh unstoppable when he's plottin'.
Marauders was decent. I like the premise, feels like it has a lot of potential for fun standalone stories, but it also setup a few future threads. I liked how Kitty was written, everyone else didn't get much time. Seems like a fairly arbitrary jumble of characters at this point, but I'll give it a bunch of issues to see where they all go.
I liked the tone of Marauders a lot, and it feels like it could be ripe for a bunch of extremely cool stories. The exchange between Bobby and Pyro was actually really enlightening...explained a little bit about what is going on and how people are reacting to the resurrections. Looking forward to reading more.
Marauders thoughts!
- I will never get used to "Kate Pryde".
-Kitty Kate being unable to use the portals adds a fantastic dynamic to it. There's no "we can just escape through the portals if it gets tough" for this team - they have to commit to whatever they're doing.
- Emma's writing was delightful. "Do it for the wardrobe. You will ravish in red." Perfect. More Emma, please.
-Kitty Kate is badass af. I was expecting her Omega team to lay the smackdowns, but this was really the Pryde Show and it was magnificent.
- In general, I love the tone. HoX and PoX were very serious stories, so it's refreshing to have a series that can carry heavy stories while also being a seafaring romp.
- Marvel should probably consider getting a German speaker on board, before Nightcrawler misgenders anyone else.
- I will never get used to "Kate Pryde".
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- Emma's writing was delightful. "Do it for the wardrobe. You will ravish in red." Perfect. More Emma, please.
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- In general, I love the tone. HoX and PoX were very serious stories, so it's refreshing to have a series that can carry heavy stories while also being a seafaring romp.
- Marvel should probably consider getting a German speaker on board, before Nightcrawler misgenders anyone else.
I agree with this. I flew through this first issue because it was just so fun.
Hmm, I almost want to say that Kitty not being able to use the portals was setup by someone inside the council in order to get her to play ball running the Hellfire ship.
I'm not sure how that would work though.
My hope is that it's something much more interesting than that.
I'm not sure how that would work though.
My hope is that it's something much more interesting than that.
Pyros introduction to this series being "lol yeah i was ressurected but things are super weird here so i was gonna steal this boat but fell asleep on it instead sure ill stick around" and everyone just rolling with it is amazing.
Marauders was a lot of fun! Expecting great things from Duggan, I've enjoyed his books a lot so far. Highly appreciated the focus on Kitty for this first issue, especially that action sequence in Russia. That was badass. Her unique circumstance of being unable to go through the gates worried me at first because I feared they'd retcon her into not being a Mutant, lol. It's interesting though! I like that it's kind of forced her into accepting the offer while at the same time also making perfect sense for her as a person and because of Krakoa's needs. It's a pretty damn cool situation. Excited to see more of Emma and Bobby as they are, as well as Kitty, among my favorite X-Men characters. This is the first time I'm reading Pyro and I like him a lot already! Bishop and Storm are cool too, so really, everything about this book's premise is great.
I don't know if I'll ever like "Kate." Honestly, I'd prefer they call her Katherine instead. It's longer, I know, and it makes more sense to use a nickname among colleagues and friends but... ehh. Don't like the sound of it. Guess I just need to get used to it.
I don't know if I'll ever like "Kate." Honestly, I'd prefer they call her Katherine instead. It's longer, I know, and it makes more sense to use a nickname among colleagues and friends but... ehh. Don't like the sound of it. Guess I just need to get used to it.
Shockingly, not all of Marvoo's #1s have been $5 lately, but I've been really happy with a lot of the $5 and $6 books they've been releasing (even the $8 or $10 books), because it really feels like the content is there. Some of them have filler back-ups, which is a little irritating, but I definitely feel like I got my money's worth on all the Hickman books so far, and I'm happy to shell out $6 for Immortal Hulk 25.
Marauders was pretty good. Sucks that Kitty can't go through the gates(Not calling her Kate) Wonder how long that'll go on for. Kitty wrecking those guys at the end was awesome. So far so good, seems to be the lighthearted book of the Dawn of X line, relatively speaking
The bobby/pyro exchange was amusing particularly because Bobby was *sleeping with* Pyro-2 and didn't realize that was the *old* one until he heard the accent
you know, I had forgotten about this bit of business:
What if the "sleeper agent" modified to appear as if they were a mutant but aren't is Pryde?
This came up in "Hunt for Wolverine." In case you're saying "well that was forever ago" this was also the storyline where a pack of heroes went hunting for what they thought was the remains of wolverine's body, but instead happened on the gigantic cache of DNA that Sinster had on everyone alive- including a digital DNA database of all mutants kept separately.
As we're all aware, the digital mutant Database is the one currently being used by Xavier on Krakoa.
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Pyro 2 is Simon Lasker. Introduced in Xmen Gold and ended up sleeping with Bobby during that series.
Similar outfit and powers to Pyro 1 (St. John Allerdyce) but lasker can generate his own flames while Allerdyce can't.
lol this was great, and yeah I'll still call her kitty lol she's one of my favorite X-men I hope they don't retcon her from being a mutant, that would really suck.
It's a bit weird though. In Powers/Dawn and X-Men it feels like the characters are written less human by design. Like we're supposed to know something is off about them. There was none of that in Marauders.
lol this was great, and yeah I'll still call her kitty lol she's one of my favorite X-men I hope they don't retcon her from being a mutant, that would really suck.
Pryde being literally the only mutant on earth (and only X-man on the roster) not able to use the gates for reasons no one can figure out seems to be pretty damning. I don't think that plot thread from Hunt for Wolverine was random at all.
LOL I didn't even catch on that it was another Pyro... but I flipped through XMen Gold so that probably explains it.
I wonder how much is that is just how Hickman writes dialogue
Because he has a style
confusingly, Allerdyce wasn't dead. He died of the legacy virus a looooong time ago but was resurrected by stuff Selene did and remained alive after Necrosha. Allerdyce showed up again during Rosenberg's Uncanny and was knocked out but not killed by Cyclops. He wasn't dead, no need to resurrect him.
Marauders seems to be ignoring everything that happened after Allerdyce died of the legacy virus.
Marauders #1 has been my personal favorite read during this whole relaunch so far. And that isn't to say that Hickman has done anywhere near a bad job -- in fact I have loved every little bit of this, but Marauders' tone and pace in #1 was absolutely right up my alley.
If you believe the Sinister's page of lies, she was probably 3rd choice.
Isn't it possible that plot was dropped when the all the other X-Men series was scrapped?
It's still mixed case, yes. Hickman explained in the AiPT interview it allows for a lot more space.
given that that series was what introduced the whole Sinister DNA cache... no
Good info, thanks! I noticed they were still using it last week in X-Men.