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Johnny Depp v Amber Heard's defamation trial is underway [UPDATE: Verdict reached. Johnny Depp won.]
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Because we know the main players in this thread, this just stops people having constantly write out their names all the time.
Stuff like this is why narcissistic fucking assholes will always crumble under grown adults grilling them with reality and receipts. Someone grabs your hair and repeatedly punches you in the face - rings or no rings - you're going to the fucking hospital absolutely busted up. They just can't help ratcheting the story up and adding their own flavor and increasing the drama. So sure in their own bullshit lies they never stop to think that instead of making them more sympathetic as victims it's just crushing any sense of good faith or truthfulness they may have.
I know this playbook so fucking well. Shine a light on the roaches and it's all over. She has no idea the advantage hiding behind Depp's privacy and money and shame and everything else was doing for her - but once again a fucking narcissistic asshole can't help themselves - had to write an op-ed and try to "get something" out of it, no doubt convinced in her sick fuckin head she deserves all of it and more.
I hope this completely ruins her moving forward.
at first, it was because I had difficulty remembering how to wright jhonny johnny jhon JD name correctly (non-native speaker)
later it was because I got used to CV, JD, AH, WH, DV, TMZ...
As I said to another user yesterday, when Amber was talking about sex abuse, I was in shock thinking
"If just 1% of this was true then this woman went through hell and he deserves to be in prison, no matter what she did"
any person who has no idea of what evidence was shown in the tribunal would be in that position
BUT then Camille was able to deconstruct Amber's testimony making it evident that there is not a single photo or piece of evidence to prove the level of violence reported.
And to make matters worse, when asked where such evidence would be, Amber said that she had it but that her lawyers didn't show it (???).
That is why it is very important that this trial is being aired/streamed.
I have trouble with that too. Like people asking "were you in front of him, or behind him, or his right side?" or "how were the people gathered around the campfire?". My god, I don't know, I could never remember that. I'm even thinking about a campfire I was years ago trying to remember, and I don't even recall all the people that were there with me, let alone their placement. I'd be a terrible witness in a trial.
The whole, "Do you remember this bed?" I can remember layouts of Goldeneye levels but not exact things in someone's house from 5+ years ago.
Sometimes I go upstairs to do or get something and when I'm at the top of the stairs I've forgotten what I went up there for.
It depends really. If something extraordinary happens, you remember it way easier.
Stuff like lunch or what you did wear, like daily things is just a blur.
You know, I remember exactly when I got my cancer diagnosis and the room I was in, but I have no idea what kind of clothing I or my parents/doctor wore.
You probably will remember when you broke a leg or something, but what kind of lunch you had this day, or what you wore, you probably do not know.
Well, in truth, witness testimony might as well be considered useless. Even when witnesses aren't lying the chances of their memories being partially or entirely false are pretty damn high. Human memory is absolute garbage.
Agreed. Super important things are vivid. The general stuff I would never remember. I am attentive but some stuff just never sticks with me haha.
This witness (Melanie Inglessis) just confirmed that Samantha was already there with Amber.
If you are unaware, Samantha was Amber's stylist who stated that she did not see any visible marks, cuts or bruises on the night of the James Corden Show. Heard's team tried to refute this by saying that the reason that Samantha did not see these marks, cuts and bruises was because Amber was already wearing makeup.
Source: https://deadline.com/2020/07/johnny-depp-libel-trial-stylist-statement-amber-heard-1202985371/
If you are unaware, Samantha was Amber's stylist who stated that she did not see any visible marks, cuts or bruises on the night of the James Corden Show. Heard's team tried to refute this by saying that the reason that Samantha did not see these marks, cuts and bruises was because Amber was already wearing makeup.
Source: https://deadline.com/2020/07/johnny-depp-libel-trial-stylist-statement-amber-heard-1202985371/
People who have experienced genuine trauma tend to remember all the details. That stuff gets burned into your memory.
It's the same as why people tend to not have memories of very early childhood, except for when they experienced bad things happening.
The fact that AH keeps saying she doesn't recall, it's very telling IMO.
This isn't necessarily true. We know very little about memory and how it intersects with trauma, there isn't a lot of consensus. Testimony based on memory is notoriously unreliable, and is often cited as a contributing factor in wrongful convictions.
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Yeah. Trauma effects people very differently. Some people are haunted by it daily, some have no memory, etc.
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Anybody else find it kind of funny that Heard, especially yesterday, dressed up like Doctor Evil?
Her own witness telling another story about how JD cut his finger than AH herself. Ooopsie.
Overall, not the worst day for AH, though. A few solid witnesses, but still way too many inconsistencies in their testimonys. It's up to rebuttal and JD legal team to point these out afterwards.
Overall, not the worst day for AH, though. A few solid witnesses, but still way too many inconsistencies in their testimonys. It's up to rebuttal and JD legal team to point these out afterwards.
The video witnesses in general are very boring for the most part, especially these last few. Even the courtroom at the end of the session had a ton of empty seats.
Yes and according to live reports, Jury did not miss that either.
Vogue published this:
www.vogue.com
Why It’s Time to Believe Amber Heard
The British courts believed Johnny Depp beat his ex-wife. What’s stopping the rest of us?
Oh look, another one.
Vogue published this:
Why It’s Time to Believe Amber Heard
The British courts believed Johnny Depp beat his ex-wife. What’s stopping the rest of us?
You could at least try to be subtle when you're JAQing off.
Vogue published this:
Why It’s Time to Believe Amber Heard
The British courts believed Johnny Depp beat his ex-wife. What’s stopping the rest of us?
They sure did
I'm not, I've barely kept up with this, it's just what I heard
this is bad logic. bad sense too.
it's an opinion article in Vogue magazine.Vogue published this:
Why It’s Time to Believe Amber Heard
The British courts believed Johnny Depp beat his ex-wife. What’s stopping the rest of us?
just be careful of your informative sources. reading it for fluff is one thing, but to form an opinion is another.
Vogue published this:
Why It’s Time to Believe Amber Heard
The British courts believed Johnny Depp beat his ex-wife. What’s stopping the rest of us?
Thats it. That's literally all the article says. They've either not seen this case or are intentionally blinding their eyes.
Disgusting.
I stopped when I saw "depp-pilled." These people are parodies of themselves.
Gotta love how this thread is almost 100 pages long and we still get JAQ-offs coming in here and thinking they're slick.
Like I don't understand why anyone would enter a near 100+ place thread with a big disclaimer and go "I haven't paid attention at all to know the mountains of evidence that Depp was abused...but here's an extremely biased opinion article that was published or tweet so it must be true!".
Edit: lol I made it 100 pages
Edit: lol I made it 100 pages
Hello dear user Dragon SJG
This is a 99 pages thread that deals with the subject of Domestic Violence, many male members here who have experienced DV in their personal lives shared their histories, and every time someone comes here to question if JD is not also an abuser it offends them and their stories.
It would be really appreciated if you could take some time to read what was already discussed.
That said, there are a lot of pieces of evidence already discussed that paint a very clear picture that Amber Heard was the real abuser.
Posting AGAIN (part 2 isn't mine):
- Camille, JD lawyer, made Amber answer a series of questions about JD using his rings. Amber said he is always using them, and that they are very big...
Then Camille recalls that Amber said under oath that JD beat her face vigorously many, many times, that she lost count of how many times she was beaten in the face.
After this, Camille asked why in no photo Amber recorded after such events do the ring marks appear on Amber's face.
Camille asked why Amber had no photos showing such injuries consistent with the statements, and Amber said that she had photos of these injuries, which she gave to her lawyers, but they wouldn't show them.
Camille exhibited a series of photos showing inconsistencies in Amber's statements, where she says she was beaten, had her lip cut, and nose broken, yet hours later went to some event, attended a television show, went to a movie premiere, and showed no injuries.
Camille asked more questions about the accusation that JD used cocaine and Amber began to explain how it was used and said that her sister taught JD how to snort it without leaving marks on his nose.
Camille pointed out that the photo showing a table full of cocaine could be forged since JD was not at the scene.
Camille recalled that Amber had no problem recording photos of JD "passed out drunk" and not even when he was "aggressively slamming on the cabinets," so why when she recorded him using cocaine, did he not appear in the photo?
Amber said she did not have any marks or bruises in such photos because she used make-up and ice. Keep in mind that she described an extreme level of violence. At one point, after Camille showed in photo after photo that Amber's nose looked perfectly fine, Amber started saying that maybe it really wasn't broken. That she felt as if it was.
About the donation:
"For a moment Camille was rigidly stuck in "pledge vs donation", and Amber started to lie saying she never conclude because JD sued her and she needed the money.
Then the other lawyers gave a note to Camille, and she used that to remember to the court that there was a gap of 13 months between the moment Amber got the money and "pledge" the donation and the date JD filed the lawsuit against Amber.
That was amazing because it was a new lie being caught live. This is why I made jokes about the incredible healing factor and precognition that Amber showed in this courtroom."
- "She's blaming her own nurse for getting it wrong in her reports.
She's blaming her doctor for uncomplete medical reports.
She's blaming her own lawyers for not bringing up all her "produced" evidence of broken noses and bruises into court.
She's blaming her own lawyers for sharing photos with the media (People magazine).
She's blaming JD's legal action for not being able to donate everything, though she had the money for 13 months before the action was even made.
She's literally throwing everyone under the bus. But sure, she's the victim and everyone has to believe her. No matter what. Unbelievable.
To continue based on yesterdays AH cross:
She's blaming all three police officers of basically doing their job wrong.
She's blaming Ben King, house manager and witness under testimony, of lying.
She's blaming Starling Jenkins, driver and witness under testimony, of lying.
She's blaming the dogs for the poop show.
She's blaming JDs legal team of photoshopping her evidence, though they're obviously the same pictures.
She's blaming CV of making false accusations about AH injury photos, though one of the photos obviously was photoshopped by saturating it.
She's blaming her lawyers and PR teams again (!) of getting out stuff to the media (TMZ etc.).
And then, after this whole shitshow of her on cross and re-direct she's blaming JD for being a liar.
No evidences. No rehabilitation on re-direct. Nothing. Instead leaving court disrespectfully in front of the jury and judge. What a disastrous day for AH this has been."
The UK court case was a shambles, decided by a lie that the judge chose to believe. Aside from that, they didn't find that Depp was an abuser, they found that Heard's testimony gave the Sun newspaper enough of an out to be unable to be prosecuted for knowingly publishing false claims....in short, it was likely enough that it could have happened to give the newspaper libel protection.Vogue published this:
Why It’s Time to Believe Amber Heard
The British courts believed Johnny Depp beat his ex-wife. What’s stopping the rest of us?
Depp wasn't permitted to submit a lot of the evidence that countered Heard's claims, the judge simply took her word that she was donating all the money she'd got - so she wasn't gaining financially - and that was that. Vogue are wrong to frame it the way they did in that by-line.
We've since learned that Heard was lying regarding that donation, and the evidence Depp's lawyers has presented has very, VERY severely damaged the credibility of her accusations. The beatings she describes are not reflected in the photos her lawyers have shown, the testimony of police officers who arrived at the scene, and in video and photographic appearances in the days that followed those incidents.
Vogue published this:
Why It’s Time to Believe Amber Heard
The British courts believed Johnny Depp beat his ex-wife. What’s stopping the rest of us?
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