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Johnny Depp v Amber Heard's defamation trial is underway [UPDATE: Verdict reached. Johnny Depp won.]
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First real beating she's taken.
Just FYI it's a pre-recorded deposition that's been edited for the jury.
It was claiming that Depp's legal team submitted an "edited" photo, when it was just a screengrab of a picture and so had some minor color shift and moire patterns, but was otherwise identical especially in terms of the evidentiary value of the picture.
People are trying to claim that it's proof that Depp is lying and Amber is the real victim
Not officially, but they're saying the jury might just rule against her regardless of any technicalities in the law... and they say it happens more often than people think when the jury hates the defendant/plaintiff.
You should always do a little looking into who you're boosting. Just a quick look over his likes show who's he's in bed with.
Considering that time argument Elaine had with the judge, this is perfection.
Perfection lol. Thanks!
So essentially, the jury could read it as a temper tantrum and an insult to them, and thus be inclined to rule against her? Interesting. I'm curious if the jury has been reacting in a similar fashion to today's events as those of us here in the thread have.
The DUI Guy is in the court room today as well, I'm sure we'll hear from him when today's proceedings are over.
It's not as if they'll just rule against her because she was being mean, but it certainly colors their opinion of her which will indirectly effect how they interpret the evidence for and against her during their deliberations.
I am feeling bad about AH's lawyer.
I let a tear down when Camille hugged JD. What a tour de force from her in saving this man's reputation. JD should be ever grateful for Camille's amazing preparation and performance. I am sure she and her team have dedicated hours just for yesterday and today's performance.
I let a tear down when Camille hugged JD. What a tour de force from her in saving this man's reputation. JD should be ever grateful for Camille's amazing preparation and performance. I am sure she and her team have dedicated hours just for yesterday and today's performance.
Is this depositions audio really bad for anyone else.
Is there another stream other than the CBS stream?
Is there another stream other than the CBS stream?
LOL, I saw that and was confused as to why her lawyer would be sitting outside of the court room. Also thought it was strange the bailiff seemed caught up guard and rushed to follow Amber. (I'm more listen than watching).
Thanks for clarifying.
check out Law and Crime on youtube. Their stream has been good.
Also, this dude couldn't help but fall in love with Depp that shit's hilarious.
It's a pre-recorded deposition so I don't think any other stream will have better audio.
The only time I served on a jury was a case where the county set up a sting operation to catch independent contractors doing jobs that cost more than $200 but they had absolutely no hard evidence the defendant had broken the law. Their only evidence was "he showed up to the house with paint on his clothes and paint is expensive!" They wasted our time for 2 days and as soon as we got to deliberate we basically took like 5 minutes to agree how insulting the case was and came back out and acquitted the defendant. The judge was smiling.
Thanks.
Yeah the law and crime stream is a bit better but I guess the video is just bad.
The L&C stream is generally higher quality, but yeah the recordings audio isnt that great.
I know why Depp's team is using it of course. but I personally don't see a one off incident in that relationship as particularly damning when there's enough incidents and evidence just from Depp and Heard's relationship to sink her case. I don't think it's a battered partner supporting their abuser thing either if it was truly a one off incident at the airport. I get that it counters her claim that she's "never hit anyone" but I still didn't see it as a big gotcha as some people were reacting to it in the thread at the time.
and to reply to someone who quoted me earlier, it would be very shitty indeed if Van Ree and Heard tried to make it seem like the lesbian officer that arrested them was being homophobic though without substantiating that claim, but I doubt we'll ever get more information about that incident.
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Is it still the drug guy? I had to turn it off, but before I did he made 2 statements that stood out as really weird to me
First, when asked if Amber ever saw Amber doing coke, he wanted clarification if that meant "ever in history" only to say no, he has never in history seen her do coke and she is adamantly against it. So why the clarification?
Second, when asked if he has ever seen her smoke weed he said no, that's not her drug of choice. When asked what is her drug of choice he said she doesn't have one....
AH's been shown to repeatedly and consistently lie on record and under oath about simpler more innocuous facts, if that led her to a financial or PR gain. Camille just piled on another question for the jury to ponder about. It's not a gotcha, it's just another thing at the back of the jurors mind.
Yeah, I missed like 15 minutes of his deposition after the start.... I'm trying to go back and catch up but I wanna stay live for some reason :)
This concept, known as jury nullification, is generally only applicable to criminal trials. For one thing, a verdict in a civil trial based on an error in law would almost certainly be overturned on appeal, and many/all? common law jurisdictions permit the trial judge to substitute a jury verdict not based in law
This guy makes me wish they'd just do a summary, lol.
Depp did drugs.
Depp smoked stuff.
Depp was kind most of the time, and very giving/helpful to others.
Depp could be "mean" when drunk and say not nice things.
Never saw Depp physically abuse Heard at any time.
Depp did drugs.
Depp smoked stuff.
Depp was kind most of the time, and very giving/helpful to others.
Depp could be "mean" when drunk and say not nice things.
Never saw Depp physically abuse Heard at any time.
Ok, so that's why that witness is not on the stand.... 90% of what I just heard him saying would be objected to as hearsay on the stand.
How common is that? not overturing on appeal but a judge substituting a jury verdict?
This deposition is just redundant, you're right.
It's established that he is a chronic substance abuser, but it does not equate to his being physically violent. It's like Heard's team has nothing else but to continually show evidence that Depp was a drug user and, by extension, was a physically violent man.
I am not a civil litigator nor do I know what jurisdiction this trial is being conducted in. But with the amount of money being poured into this shitshow you can be certain that every reasonable avenue will be tested, and this is frankly a relatively obvious one
Wait... So he just said Johnny told him his mom abused him as a kid and that he called her a b*tch numerous times... And that he quote 'already had a mom that was a b*tch in his life and that he doesn't need another one' whilst directly comparing her to Amber...?
Doesn't that strengthen Johnny's testimony about Amber being abusive...?
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Doesn't that strengthen Johnny's testimony about Amber being abusive...?
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Doesnt seem like theres really anything new here. Its jarring from the explosive stuff before to go to this.
It at least tells the jury that he was equating the two... they can make of that whatever they want.
Which he was also doing during his testimony... How does that help Amber?
It doesn't.... they have nothing on Johnny except he was a habitual drug user and an alcoholic, and they keep hammering on that nail as if that's gonna hold the entire case together.
I still dont understand the point of this video, it doesnt show any violence against Amber. And Johnny even says whatever hes mad about doesnt involve her
Trying to establish a pattern I believe, to show that these types of outbursts are not uncommon.
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