Yes, repeatedly during multiple lines of questioning during her cross... it's incredibly damaging to her credibility.
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Johnny Depp v Amber Heard's defamation trial is underway [UPDATE: Verdict reached. Johnny Depp won.]
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Yes, repeatedly during multiple lines of questioning during her cross... it's incredibly damaging to her credibility.
I understood maybe doing it when she was mostly giving her full story, but doing it for even the simplest of answers from Jonny's lawyers' questions is so odd.
Wow. She just keeps cratering her credibility.
From the replies in that weird tweet posted in the other thread I saw this turd of a gem.
what the fuck. Men can't be abused ever, I guess.
what the fuck. Men can't be abused ever, I guess.
Yep. "Not my job" she even said. "I have mountains of evidence".
So like:
My cousins brother uncle works for Nintendo and he told me they are buying out Microsoft and Sony. You can believe it.
In related news. Amber is a narcissist who refuses to admit she did anything wrong.
Who will believe you? Tell your story to the jury and judge and tell them, I Johnny am a victim of domestic abuse.
Clearly the words of someone who lacked power in the relationship.
Crazy to see so many people die on this hill. I can't imagine typing that up and thinking it's a sane and coherent argument.
even outside of today's day in court, I really am struggling to see how anyone could have listened to the tapes of Amber heard admitting all the shit she did and still think there's stronger evidence against Depp/that the relationship dynamic wasn't one of her being the primary/main abuser. what evidence against depp is anywhere near as damning, or could come even come across that way if you had preconceived notions about Depp being the primary abuser?
Yep, some people really aren't thinking. I think one reason is that actually thinking about things will make them come to a conclusion of "I was wrong".
The whole gossip/tea space seems to be on Amber's side.
So many people seemingly wanting to destroy any credibility they might've had for the sake of someone who literally spits in the face of her employees for daring to ask for a raise. Utterly trash human being.
If that's the case then it's one more lie on the pile for her.
Now Vasquez is grilling Heard about the donations, just after the second night show interview was brought as evidence. I'm not just impressed by how much Heard got away with it, but how prepared Depp's lawyer came for this. Camille Vasquez was on fire today.
I'm catching up with todays stuff just now and man I have to say, Vasquez is one hell of a lawyer.
I will have to do some research as soon as I get home because I don't remember that
The medical history or the nurse's medical notes combined with the pictures...
Amber is literally insane.
Again, I can't praise Camille Vasquez enough. She'll grill her some more tomorrow... It's barely been 2 hours...
the ongoing actions of men over centuries have poisoned the well, so a man has a really hard time proving validity of victimhood in domestic violence or abuse cases. Toxic masculinity striking again, ironically. They have to get beyond cultural acceptances like men being larger than women meaning that when a woman hits them it doesn't mean as much. Or men accepting when their spouse hits them to blow of steam even when it doesn't "hurt" hurt, it still isn't innocent. Slaps and swats out of frustration and anger might not be violence but it's definitely approaching abuse. Like what is their intent and is there a pattern of abuse and control?
It's hard to claim abuse. There's no support for it, you feel like lesser of everything, and you blame yourself and feel like everyone else is too. "Aren't you a man, just leave." "You sure know how to pick em." Like you don't literally have your life completely exposed to this person. You could find yourself trying to go back if you do leave because you're so well gaslit you don't know what direction is up. There's like just no preparation for it, and society either calls it into doubt or calls you into question, since men are supposed to always be in control somehow.
Any abuse Johnny Depp experienced is really secondary to their argument that Amber Heard a) was not abused or raped, b)that she exhibits a pattern of bending the truth and telling basic lies while also collecting lot of details to support her narrative, and c) did so knowing that it would harm her ex-husband. It also looks like they want to tie her actions to medical mental health diagnoses, and use evidence of her actions as an anchor to show that, what she said is in doubt, what she did was in direct contradiction of what she said, and how she acted doesn't support her stating that she had no idea it would portray her ex-husband in a bad light. They've been building a foundation with everything so far, but they really need her to put the roof over it all with Point C, by showing herself to be both deliberate and also inconsistent. But it was always an uphill battle that ultimately relies on her, which is like, not impossible but difficult.
The rub so far is that her collected proof hasn't helped her case, and the proof they collected, some of it actually helps his.
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As someone wisely said early on: you can't gaslight your way out on court once you gave your testimony
Heard's attorneys could choreograph and coach her on what to say during direct but everyone with a lick of sense knew she would crumble as cross examination started.
She has no excuses and no attorney to fall back on. She is screwed and deserves every bit of heat coming her way. A pathological liar and manipulator.
She has no excuses and no attorney to fall back on. She is screwed and deserves every bit of heat coming her way. A pathological liar and manipulator.
Just caught up on the cross examination, Camille just destroyed her. Insanely good at her job and getting Amber to stumble on so many things.
Some of the takes I have seen on twitter from blue ticks and people who claim to be progressive have been shocking.
I consider myself to be a progressive both politically and personally and I find myself disgusted by some of the defending these so called "progressives" are taking part in to save Amber and her career.
It's genuinely awful and has proven beyond doubt that for some people their agendas mean more to them than truth and justice.
Making sure that Johnny Depp gets justice is imperative for all victims of abuse, male and female.
Amber doesn't speak for female abuse victims, she is a scam artist and has done damage to female victims of abuse through her selfish and calculated behaviour to piggyback on a movement of real change to make herself more successful.
Anyone defending her should be ashamed.
I consider myself to be a progressive both politically and personally and I find myself disgusted by some of the defending these so called "progressives" are taking part in to save Amber and her career.
It's genuinely awful and has proven beyond doubt that for some people their agendas mean more to them than truth and justice.
Making sure that Johnny Depp gets justice is imperative for all victims of abuse, male and female.
Amber doesn't speak for female abuse victims, she is a scam artist and has done damage to female victims of abuse through her selfish and calculated behaviour to piggyback on a movement of real change to make herself more successful.
Anyone defending her should be ashamed.
actually, I did not know the difference between pledge and donation but thanks
any excuse to rewatch is worthy
100 percent agree, but slaps and swats are definitely violence
That's because you have cognitive flexibility and understand nuance. So many "progressive" personalities maintain an absolute or black and white stance on EVERYTHING and refuse to compromise. It's as if they are so scared that by asking questions they get their progressive pass taken away.
This whole cross examination must have brought so much joy to Johnny. Imagine having gone through everything he has plus whatever else that couldn't be proven to then have Camille torch Amber. I'm happy for the man and I hope justice is serve and he can have at the very least an ease of mind after this whole ordeal.
I agree, but I think I might be disappointed with how many might argue that not to be the case under certain circumstances
"Did she hit him? Yes. Was it abuse? No."
The fuck? This is really simple. What do you call it when someone has a history of hitting their significant other?
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Does anyone actually win defamation trials though? Even the guy that Elon tried to convince the world was a pedophile couldn't win.
They definitely seem hard to win. I will not be surprised at all if Depp loses.
I still can't believe that Musk case. Money buys good lawyers, I guess.
All about feeling good rather than doing good for those kinds of people.
Most recently, the Kardashians won won in the last month, but it was really blatant with a lot of empty accusations
It's a crapshoot basically and depends on your jury, they're generally really difficult to win as you need a large amount of evidence to point to a quantifiable loss due to the defamation
He actually has sustained a large quantifiable loss, so there's that
I appreciate you saying that, thank you :). Also, I do agree with you and I never understood that way of thinking.
I think part of being progressive, the very fundamental meaning of it (in my eyes at least) is to be open minded and, as you say, have the cognitive flexibility to be able to understand nuance in certain situations.
This is one of those situations imo.
Amber Heard has abused a platform for her own selfish gain, supporting Depp doesn't mean that you stand against women who face abuse, this is what these so called "progressives" need to understand.
Acttually, I would argue the opposite, I think it shows the world that we cannot allow bad actors like Amber Heard to undermine all the hard work that has gone into making society a more equal and just place for abuse victims and that she doesn't represent metoo or any other platform that stands for helping victims.
I feel like that is the very definition of being progressive.
Camille was quite determined not to miss the chance to use the evidence/evidence she had at hand. She did everything she could to be able to maintain during Amber's testimony. It was exciting.
She's not rich though.
She can't pay $7 million as she had to spend it on the Court case a year later.
She's actually pretty poor by the sound of it.
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