This doesn't really work when they took a side in the past and banned people for defending Johnny when this all started. Now when Johnny has a lot of evidence to support him all of a sudden that doesn't apply
Honestly this is the crux of it. It's also baffling that prior threads on the topic had some more emphatic staff communication around not downplaying or both sidesing the abuse and yet this thread feels comparatively completely unchecked.
When you have Male victims of abuse opening up about it, and you come in here to post such a flippant nothing as "take a break from the discussion" --- in what world is that remotely appropriate? Like it just feels so damn callous.
This is honestly so disappointing and I hoped that of all the places on the internet Era could be a place that would take even the potential of male abuse seriously and not be a weird misogynist shithole at the same time. How are people meant to otherwise trust that this is a safe space for them?
Like idk. I don't think people are really asking for that much, just for at the minimum some kind of official communication which isn't a one line vaguery. Like sensitive subjects should have sensitive posts. If this was a thread on, say, some heinous racist act, could you imagine telling people to take a break from the discussion if they feel themselves getting heated or "stay on topic"?
Sure! But that just kind of proves why we shouldn't come to conclusions in matter we're not involved in and haven't heard all the facts yet.
Right and in theory I agree, but the problem is that this never becomes the standard for discussion around here. If there is a thread in which there are sexual assault allegations, your stance would suggest that there should be nothing wrong with saying "well let's wait to get all the facts on the table and see what happens in court", you would probably be immediately banned for "downplaying sexual assault" or something. And to be clear the issue with this is that these things are very hard to prove or disprove and so that's why saying that kind of thing is a bit of a nothing, and why it can be seen as downplaying the matter at hand. In a similar way with this Depp vs Heard situation at the outset your approach would have probably got you banned.("well let's wait till we have all the facts").
There's just some (imo disgusting, but maybe my judgement rn is clouded) level of hypocrisy on display and it makes me feel like I want to vomit.
And to be clear I'm generally trying to take the same approach re: wait for everything, passively follow and see where the cards lie, but the difference and inconsistencies in approach, and the fact that voicing support for that kind of view in another context would likely be ban worthy is the issue I have and why I feel less comfortable here than I would otherwise like.
