Wifi 5 is 802.11ac
Wifi 6 is 802.11ax
Wifi 6 is better in many different ways.
It's more expensive as well. And the reason it's included in the PS5 is probably wireless VR.
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John (Digital Foundry) on PS5: ''Just talking to developers...I think people will be surprised in a good way about the PS5''
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Wifi 5 is 802.11ac
Wifi 6 is 802.11ax
Wifi 6 is better in many different ways.
It's more expensive as well. And the reason it's included in the PS5 is probably wireless VR.
They're going away from the 802.11ac description to rename based on sequential numbering. So WiFi 6 is the next standard after ac.
Yeah, after seeing the speeds they are capable of, I am looking into an NVMe enclosure and a cheapish NVMe. I got some posts by Pheonix bookmarked, lol. I was gonna go straight external, but NVMe + enclosure looks to be the better deal.
but unless you have a compatible router which has wifi 6, it will be using AC, or lower.
That could be the reason why it's included but its not a deal breaker in my eyes.
Wired will always be better than wireless.
Look, Digital Foundry explicitly said time and time again that they are not interested in console wars. Their only interest is in technology and how it evolves games. John in particular has made this abundantly clear on his Twitter feed and he keeps getting harassed by fanboys for praising either Xbox or PlayStation. The guy just loves tech and he will compare and contrast them. I don't think he's the man to lie about PS5 having surprises, especially with how quiet Sony has been about the capabilities of the hardware. For example, Sony's SSD custom controller is a big unknown and it looks like there's a DRAM module right next to it from the PS5 teardown video, which could have unforeseen benefits for SSD performance. All we have is conjecture until we see the silicon itself in action. The PS5 also indeed has faster I/O than the Xbox Series. Does that mean it's a better console in every way? No, of course not. It is, however, a positive asset to the platform. Microsoft has been incredibly transparent and open about what their platforms could achieve. We know the Series X has its own benefits and assets that give it an edge above the PS5. These are different consoles and both of these companies are achieving different goals, so there's gonna be surprises, especially from the platform we know the least about which is the PS5. It's not console warring, it's just common sense.
AX from the PS5 to the HMD.
There is a Sony patent with a wireless HMD.
What's happening in this thread? List wars, MS is some kind of underdog that needs to be significantly more powerful than the PS5 and DF being accused of having a bias?
I think this thread needs to get locked.
I think this thread needs to get locked.
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This is art.A few numbers I crunched to show how things look to me when I compare both consoles.
As you can see, they both have strengths and weaknesses but what does jump at you, looking at this?
ps: the total USB b/w is the least important by far but I had to include something to show that PS5 has more and faster USB ports, including usb-c.
I mean if it is easy to develop for and Sony become the leading platform in terms of sales again, it would make sense that PS5 would be the priority for their games.
Of course it all depends on how easy it is to develop for series X, how well it sells, do the Devs plan on bringing the game to gamepass etc. So there are a lot of variables.
aside from traffic congestion/signal degradation Wi-Fi 6 could be faster than a standard gigabit lan cable. I'd probably still prefer the stability of a wired connection though
It's missing the column "does the system name contain PlayStation".
That is the weirdest narrative surrounding videogames. MS, which has close to 19 years of experience as a console manufacturer, and even longer as a games maker, and which is so much more powerful an entity than either Sony or Nintendo (Zenimax acquisition anyone?) is still being painted as the David to Sony's Goliath. Incomprehensible to me...
A few numbers I crunched to show how things look to me when I compare both consoles.
As you can see, they both have strengths and weaknesses but what does jump at you, looking at this?
ps: the total USB b/w is the least important by far but I had to include something to show that PS5 has more and faster USB ports, including usb-c.
Nah Sony just didn't partner with them for marketing/pr of their console teardown.
I agree that its not a deal breaker and likely meant for VR use. (Improved technology with streaming and wireless headset)
But I saw a video from Linus and he said that the WiFi 6 technology can provide hard wire like speeds wirelessly. Now you won't ever download at your max speeds due to PSN (unless they change it for next gen) having limits for all users but if you could easily get a solid signal and greater speeds using a WiFi6 router, that's awesome. Its all about future proofing anyways. You may not have the right home equipment now but maybe in 1 year or 2 you can make the jump once its cheaper.
Sony including this technology is only a win here.
I genuinely don't understand console wars. Now while one may prefer a particular console because that's what they grew up playing and are heavily invested in said ecosystem, at the end of the day, they're fucking video game machines. VIDEO GAMES. If you get so riled up that they have the need to passionately defend a games console, then you actually need a life.
This is a Meme, right?A few numbers I crunched to show how things look to me when I compare both consoles.
As you can see, they both have strengths and weaknesses but what does jump at you, looking at this?
ps: the total USB b/w is the least important by far but I had to include something to show that PS5 has more and faster USB ports, including usb-c.
Please tell me it is, or it will become one?
Yeah, I think it's absolutely fine to have a bit of a bias but I'll never understand actually wishing for the other team to fail.
LMFAO. i don't even know what to say to that one
yeah I just jumped on that setup. 1 TB for PS4 games and moving video to it are perfect.
A few numbers I crunched to show how things look to me when I compare both consoles.
As you can see, they both have strengths and weaknesses but what does jump at you, looking at this?
ps: the total USB b/w is the least important by far but I had to include something to show that PS5 has more and faster USB ports, including usb-c.
A few numbers I crunched to show how things look to me when I compare both consoles.
As you can see, they both have strengths and weaknesses but what does jump at you, looking at this?
ps: the total USB b/w is the least important by far but I had to include something to show that PS5 has more and faster USB ports, including usb-c.
Doesn't count unless it's in pie chart Form, sorry mate
A few numbers I crunched to show how things look to me when I compare both consoles.
As you can see, they both have strengths and weaknesses but what does jump at you, looking at this?
ps: the total USB b/w is the least important by far but I had to include something to show that PS5 has more and faster USB ports, including usb-c.
Where is the Knack column??
I don't think it's that much more expensive.
Like take Intel's chipsets which aren't the cheapest:
Intel® Dual Band Wireless-AC 8265 Product Specifications
Intel® Dual Band Wireless-AC 8265 quick reference guide including specifications, features, pricing, compatibility, design documentation, ordering codes, spec codes and more.
ark.intel.com
Intel® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 (Gig+) Product Specifications
Intel® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 (Gig+) quick reference guide including specifications, features, pricing, compatibility, design documentation, ordering codes, spec codes and more.
ark.intel.com
Recommended Customer Prices:
WiFi 5: $9.00 - $19.00
WIFi 6: $10.00 - $17.00
Of course $1 to a bill of materials is millions of dollars.
hahahhahaA few numbers I crunched to show how things look to me when I compare both consoles.
As you can see, they both have strengths and weaknesses but what does jump at you, looking at this?
ps: the total USB b/w is the least important by far but I had to include something to show that PS5 has more and faster USB ports, including usb-c.
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No, I think the chart was a nice twist and this baby has a little more life in it.
the fact that Knack carries over to the PS5 is the sole reason Sony did PS4 BCWe already have the true winner of the list war:
now the PS5 is the console winner without even launching
Yea I was surprised also. I haven't checked it out too much but there seems to be very little ads. And it runs great too, especially surprising as I've only got a One S. Sony needs to pick up there game a bit with the PS5 UI now, did the PS4 UI change much this entire generation?
We already have the true winner of the list war:
Is it weird to say I actually enjoyed Knack?
Played it earlier this year. Thought it was a fun game honestly.
I'm playing it too, it's a bit long but fun. Who doesn't like mindless platforming and growing gigantic?!
I'll probably jump on a good sale on Knack 2 next time.
I'm the rare weirdo who thought Knack 1 was better than 2, it had the challenging simplicity of old platformer, the platinum was fun to do. Knack 2 catered to journalists criticism, they complexified the controls and powerups, and made it way too easy for my tastes.
I understand the dismissal of the game from those who expected something like Ratchet, but the trailer never tried to sell a bigger game than a small AA platformer. The original trailer and interviews were very honest about the small scope of the game.
I understand the dismissal of the game from those who expected something like Ratchet, but the trailer never tried to sell a bigger game than a small AA platformer. The original trailer and interviews were very honest about the small scope of the game.
I only got round to playing knack early last year, didn't have anything else to play and had got this from ps plus.
I actually really enjoyed it. Played it on hard as many suggested and it was surprisingly difficult at rimes. Had me cursing it like it was a souls game.
Sorry is relatively simple as expected but it was fun and I had a good time.
Need to pick up 2 at some point as most seem to think it's better. Not sure how you get better than GOTG though 😉
I actually really enjoyed it. Played it on hard as many suggested and it was surprisingly difficult at rimes. Had me cursing it like it was a souls game.
Sorry is relatively simple as expected but it was fun and I had a good time.
Need to pick up 2 at some point as most seem to think it's better. Not sure how you get better than GOTG though 😉
Agreed 100% but as you can see below some things will never change.
A few numbers I crunched to show how things look to me when I compare both consoles.
As you can see, they both have strengths and weaknesses but what does jump at you, looking at this?
ps: the total USB b/w is the least important by far but I had to include something to show that PS5 has more and faster USB ports, including usb-c.
Well unlike you, the people at Digital Foundry don't give a shit about console wars
This is just false. Price like Frederik mentioned along with brand recognition and the always online used game fiasco doomed the Xbox One. Xbox was in a good place first party wise entering last gen. They killed it on the 360. The Xbox doesn't have games narrative didn't appear until a little ways in last gen when we got past the initial cross gen release window. This generation they sit in a better spot value wise as they match the PS5 on price and have Game Pass. The Sony brand will continue to be what Sony leans on to sell their console and it is something MS will continue to struggle with overcoming although being the Fallout, Doom, Elder Scrolls etc. console will certainly help them a few years in.
Regarding the 'xbox has no games' narrative, that started halfway through the 360 generation when they went all in on kinect, except for the usual trio of halo, gears and Forza.
I remember it well because I owned 2 360s (first one rrod) and ended up selling the second because there wasn't anything I was interested in. Was becoming a common sentiment online too.